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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jun 13, 2014 19:59:46 GMT
Is this going to be part of an episode? Or, is this something that was done for direct media consumption? MythBusters test a four-way stop vs. a roundabout.I have found other links relating to this, but have been unable to find out if there is an airdate for it.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 13, 2014 20:28:41 GMT
I believe that ran Aug 12, 2013 in the U.S.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jun 13, 2014 20:46:07 GMT
Episode #207: "Traffic Tricks", originally aired July 22,2013 on SBS One - no Disco (US) date. Is this an episode that never aired in the US? The US airings skip from #206 (Painting with Explosives/Bifurcated Boat) to #208 (Breaking Bad Special) (Per Wikipedia listing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_episodes ) I stumbled upon this on Disco's site: Upcoming 2014 Season Sneek Preview - Guns, flipping cars, and BIG BOOMS!!
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Post by ironhold on Jun 13, 2014 21:10:29 GMT
We actually brought this up elsewhere, but perhaps the thread was missed.
This is one of two episodes whose US airings have been blocked due to litigation; the episodes have aired in at least one foreign market apiece, and the footage from the roundabout myth itself has made it to the internet, but the episodes have been delayed until such time as the litigation is resolved.
From what I understand, the litigation is due to a lawsuit from a third party. This third party alleges that, in retaliation for behind-the-scenes disputes between himself and Discovery Networks during the creation of the show "Penn and Teller Tell A Lie", Discovery Networks stole ideas for a series that he was working on and funneled them to Beyond for use with Mythbusters.
According to the lawsuit, the individual presented Discovery Networks with a full series pitch for a show entitled "This Vs. That", and included a season's worth of episode ideas; it was from the copy of the episode ideas they received that Discovery Networks supposedly drew the material from to funnel to Beyond.
The two episodes were pulled from American broadcast so late in the game that a season preview that Discovery Networks produced actually included footage from one of the two myths, which inadvertently helped to generate buzz over the matter.
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Post by the light works on Jun 14, 2014 1:11:39 GMT
I believe that ran Aug 12, 2013 in the U.S. I thought I saw them doing some sort of intersection test.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 14, 2014 2:40:29 GMT
I believe that ran Aug 12, 2013 in the U.S. I thought I saw them doing some sort of intersection test. I did see the turnabout test last fall while I was visiting at my son's house. I thought he was playing a rerun of an aired show but it was probably a Youtube or WIMP video he was showing me.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 15, 2014 11:17:09 GMT
Roundabout Vs Stop lights. Roundabout every time.
When little traffic, you dont need to stop as frequently as lights. (Or in my case, if you have a good view, you dont even slow down...) (In Palmers case, who is he who drives land rover, when directed "Straight ahead" at a roundabout, did just that... launched us all two foot up in the air... )
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Post by the light works on Jun 15, 2014 13:25:24 GMT
Roundabout Vs Stop lights. Roundabout every time. When little traffic, you dont need to stop as frequently as lights. (Or in my case, if you have a good view, you dont even slow down...) (In Palmers case, who is he who drives land rover, when directed "Straight ahead" at a roundabout, did just that... launched us all two foot up in the air... ) but this is roundabout vs stop signs. in yankland it is a different story as a significant number of yanks don't get roundabouts, and a significant number of roundabouts are just a normal intersection with an obstruction in the middle. the one roundabout we have in town that is a three way roundabout, you are just as likely to cross paths with a car navigating it to the right as to the left, despite the copious number of arrows painted on the ground. fortunately, this is in a parking lot, so the overall odds of two cars being in it at once is about 10%.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 15, 2014 13:51:17 GMT
Dont know why you dont get roundabouts... You give way to vehicles from the (hang on a mo.... ) the LEFT in your country (I think thats right?...) (Dont go there...) anyway, you give way to vehicles from one direction, and thats it?.. no complications, and if there is nothing else on the road, you dont need t stop....
Stop signs?.. you lot barely take notice of them anyway. Four-Way stop signs?.. who has right of way? the argument of who got there first is not going to end soon.
As for which way you go round, as long as you give way, "Its just a bit of paint", and as there isnt literally enough room on the road, at the painted on ones, more often than not, my works vehicles will be on both sides of the paint at the same time.
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Post by the light works on Jun 15, 2014 14:00:46 GMT
Dont know why you dont get roundabouts... You give way to vehicles from the (hang on a mo.... ) the LEFT in your country (I think thats right?...) (Dont go there...) anyway, you give way to vehicles from one direction, and thats it?.. no complications, and if there is nothing else on the road, you dont need t stop.... Stop signs?.. you lot barely take notice of them anyway. Four-Way stop signs?.. who has right of way? the argument of who got there first is not going to end soon. As for which way you go round, as long as you give way, "Its just a bit of paint", and as there isnt literally enough room on the road, at the painted on ones, more often than not, my works vehicles will be on both sides of the paint at the same time. I think their brains get vapor lock. surprisingly, what works best for low traffic areas is crossings without any signs. when confronted with a situation where they have to take responsibility for their action, people seem to miraculously do it right. the other situation that vapor locks Americans is, if a traffic light is dead, it is the same as a four way stop, regardless of the number of lanes involved. done right, it goes nearly as fast as if the light is working, but there is always some plank who just barrels right through like he has the green. (on our four way stops, if in doubt, the vehicle on the right has the right of way.)
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jun 16, 2014 12:53:46 GMT
Dont know why you dont get roundabouts... You give way to vehicles from the (hang on a mo.... ) the LEFT in your country (I think thats right?...) (Dont go there...) anyway, you give way to vehicles from one direction, and thats it?.. no complications, and if there is nothing else on the road, you dont need t stop.... Roundabouts (rotaries around these parts) run counter-clockwise with traffic entering/exiting on the right (outside) of the roundabout. At a four-way stop with signs, in the case of two or more cars arriving at the same time, right-of-way goes to the car farthest right.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jun 26, 2014 19:38:24 GMT
I think we Yanks just aren't used to roundabouts, so we complain about them. OTOH, I used to drive through this intersection before it was converted to a roundabout. Having driven through it since conversion, it's so much easier now. I promise, this is really how the streets are laid out. The only editing was trimming the screencap.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jun 26, 2014 19:46:07 GMT
Not quite sure what to call that configuration. Roundabout doesn't quite describe the shape...Dogbone-about?
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Post by GTCGreg on Jun 26, 2014 19:52:53 GMT
I think we Yanks just aren't used to roundabouts, so we complain about them. OTOH, I used to drive through this intersection before it was converted to a roundabout. Having driven through it since conversion, it's so much easier now. What did it look like before it was converted to the roundabout or whatever it is now? How could you possibly have that many roads come together into one intersection?
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jun 26, 2014 20:05:05 GMT
I think the inspiration for that intersection was an angry Ninja Turtle
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jun 26, 2014 21:07:31 GMT
You know the comment about business lunches being three-martini? I've always wondered how many martinis the planning board went through .... Though, considering that one of those roads changed names at that intersection, it's possible that we had two different developments that didn't quite line up, and too many buildings along them to scrap it and start over.
Driving through that pre-roundabout was like driving through two almost-overlapping four-way stops. Seward St ran straight east-west, the sidewalk is along the original route. So you'd get through Seward - N. 50th - Saddle Creek/Country Club Ave and immediately be caught in Happy Hollow Blvd - N. 50th - Country Club Ave.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 28, 2014 7:49:06 GMT
Try this for size..... I have driven through this on more than one occasion... badly..... It is a complete joke, this is known as "The Magic Roundabout", because any day where there isnt at lest one accident MUST be some form of sorcery at work?.... This is it in "Plan" view. You mention alcohol and planners. I have to wonder what substance was being abused when they drew that one up... it gotta be more than just fumes from tar?... Note, the Central roundabout, you drive round that ANTI-Clockwise...... Just WTF?.... In this country, you do roundabouts clockwise, now you have us doing it "The wrong way".....?....
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Post by craighudson on Jun 28, 2014 8:34:44 GMT
Just pretend the central roundabout isn't a roundabout, and you'll be fine.
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Post by the light works on Jun 28, 2014 8:35:00 GMT
so you have people driving what every instinct is telling them is the wrong way on the inner ring of the roundabout? yeah, i see no way that could go wrong.
I guess I can see what they were thinking, but i am not convinced they don't need to go back to school on it.
addendum: heavily modifying the lane dividers to reduce the opportunities for people to not do what the designers want would help.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 3, 2014 8:09:41 GMT
so you have people driving what every instinct is telling them is the wrong way on the inner ring of the roundabout? yeah, i see no way that could go wrong. I guess I can see what they were thinking, but i am not convinced they don't need to go back to school on it. addendum: heavily modifying the lane dividers to reduce the opportunities for people to not do what the designers want would help. The whole thing is a joke. One BUG roundabout with a nature reserve in the middle would have been better. I do not know which drug induced fool came up with that plan, but its not popular, it doesnt work, and it needs replacing. I will go a few miles out of my way if I can avoid that joke.
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