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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 24, 2015 18:50:54 GMT
you know you're old when the music you grew up with is now considered classical. Getting old sucks. Was that Zepplin?
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 18:53:31 GMT
you know you're old when the music you grew up with is now considered classical. Getting old sucks. Was that Zepplin? yes.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 24, 2015 19:59:12 GMT
I don't remember music class being that awesome when I was in school! All we had was recorders, the bane of every child's existence...
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 20:30:29 GMT
I don't remember music class being that awesome when I was in school! All we had was recorders, the bane of every child's existence... and the bane of every parent's existence. I must say - its harder to find good a good pop arrangement on recorders.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 24, 2015 20:40:20 GMT
I don't remember music class being that awesome when I was in school! All we had was recorders, the bane of every child's existence... and the bane of every parent's existence. I must say - its harder to find good a good pop arrangement on recorders. You can only play/hear "Hot Cross Buns" and/or "Mary Had a Little Lamb" so many times before contemplating finding the music teacher and demonstarting where the recorder belongs.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 24, 2015 21:19:42 GMT
Ugh! The recorder!
Oddly enough, I always found myself being sent to the hall to "think about my behavior" when that thing was pulled out during music class.
And just why is music class not an optional class? I don't see how 30 kids and a tone deaf teacher screeching in unison will advance a child's academic performance in any way. As far as preparing children for the world outside, music class is utterly useless and should be reserved for the kids who actually WANT to take part.
EDIT: And music teachers should be required to be able to teach the kids who WANT to take part to actually sing or play an instrument, not just puff on a recorder and sing stupid nursery rhymes and children's songs. Our music class room was full of all kinds of instruments that we weren't allowed to touch. Not even my classmate who had actually been taking guitar and drums lessons since he was 6 was allowed to pick up a guitar or a drum stick through all 10 years of public school. What's the point in having all that crap then?!
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 21:32:56 GMT
Ugh! The recorder! Oddly enough, I always found myself being sent to the hall to "think about my behavior" when that thing was pulled out during music class. And just why is music class not an optional class? I don't see how 30 kids and a tone deaf teacher screeching in unison will advance a child's academic performance in any way. As far as preparing children for the world outside, music class is utterly useless and should be reserved for the kids who actually WANT to take part. EDIT: And music teachers should be required to be able to teach the kids who WANT to take part to actually sing or play an instrument, not just puff on a recorder and sing stupid nursery rhymes and children's songs. Our music class room was full of all kinds of instruments that we weren't allowed to touch. Not even my classmate who had actually been taking guitar and drums lessons since he was 6 was allowed to pick up a guitar or a drum stick through all 10 years of public school. What's the point in having all that crap then?! here music class was usually a required class up through the 4th year, and then it became an elective class, where you selected an instrument or instruments to play. (or sing if choir was your thing)
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 24, 2015 21:33:27 GMT
There is loosely correlated research that says music teaches children discipline and increases math abilities. But, when the hammer falls on the local/state/federal budget, music is the first program to get the ax (followed by tech ed, phys ed & lunch programs). Ever notice how you never hear the superintendant volunteering to take a pay cut...
But, to your point Oz, I can see music being more beneficial if you let kids choose: a) if they want ot participate and b) how they want to participare. It's a flawed program that would benefit from an update.
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 21:44:35 GMT
There is loosely correlated research that says music teaches children discipline and increases math abilities. But, when the hammer falls on the local/state/federal budget, music is the first program to get the ax (followed by tech ed, phys ed & lunch programs). Ever notice how you never hear the superintendant volunteering to take a pay cut... But, to your point Oz, I can see music being more beneficial if you let kids choose: a) if they want ot participate and b) how they want to participare. It's a flawed program that would benefit from an update. well, of course not. he's in management, and management never has to tighten their belts... belt tightening is for the peasants.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 24, 2015 21:54:17 GMT
But, to your point Oz, I can see music being more beneficial if you let kids choose: a) if they want ot participate and b) how they want to participare. It's a flawed program that would benefit from an update. Or at the very least, if you are going to force it on them, try to make it interesting. Spending an entire year singing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" in different ways is NOT motivating to anyone! You know, there's a reason why there are typically only three kinds of music teacher: 1: The incredibly boring one who hasn't updated his/her haircut the last 4 decades and who's idea of "rocking out" is adding a set of bongos to "Pop Goes the Weasel" on the 925th try of the year (and even THAT doesn't happen unless the kids start badgering him/her about it around try number 300). 2: The hippie type who really only embraced the clothing and infrequent bathing parts of the culture, but never the music, because he/she thought The Beach Boys were "a little too raunchy". You know, the one who completely whacks out and starts doing flower power type or "authentic Native American" dances whenever he/she hears a tambourine. 3: The cool one who actually teaches the kids real music. The reason there are only these three types? Any other type of person would go completely bonkers!
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 22:09:11 GMT
But, to your point Oz, I can see music being more beneficial if you let kids choose: a) if they want ot participate and b) how they want to participare. It's a flawed program that would benefit from an update. Or at the very least, if you are going to force it on them, try to make it interesting. Spending an entire year singing "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" in different ways is NOT motivating to anyone! You know, there's a reason why there are typically only three kinds of music teacher: 1: The incredibly boring one who hasn't updated his/her haircut the last 4 decades and who's idea of "rocking out" is adding a set of bongos to "Pop Goes the Weasel" on the 925th try of the year (and even THAT doesn't happen unless the kids start badgering him/her about it around try number 300). 2: The hippie type who really only embraced the clothing and infrequent bathing parts of the culture, but never the music, because he/she thought The Beach Boys were "a little too raunchy". You know, the one who completely whacks out and starts doing flower power type or "authentic Native American" dances whenever he/she hears a tambourine. 3: The cool one who actually teaches the kids real music. The reason there are only these three types? Any other type of person would go completely bonkers! here we have a different three: we have the ones who are good at teaching kids, but know nothing about music, and the ones who love music but are at a loss with kids. then we have the one who got recruited to teach at an expensive private school.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 24, 2015 22:24:51 GMT
There are three types of high school students:
Those that absolutely love music, have a supernatural talent for it and even sign up for private music lessons.
Those that are minimally talented musically and their parents insist they take music lessons.
And finally, those that have no musical ability whatsoever are totally tone def and grow up to be rock stars.
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Post by the light works on Feb 24, 2015 22:33:58 GMT
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people and those who don't.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 25, 2015 10:39:02 GMT
Just in case, like me, you have problems recognising that......
The kids did reasonable, but they "aint quite there"?....
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 25, 2015 10:52:18 GMT
Ugh! The recorder! Oddly enough, I always found myself being sent to the hall to "think about my behavior" when that thing was pulled out during music class. And just why is music class not an optional class? I don't see how 30 kids and a tone deaf teacher screeching in unison will advance a child's academic performance in any way. As far as preparing children for the world outside, music class is utterly useless and should be reserved for the kids who actually WANT to take part. EDIT: And music teachers should be required to be able to teach the kids who WANT to take part to actually sing or play an instrument, not just puff on a recorder and sing stupid nursery rhymes and children's songs. Our music class room was full of all kinds of instruments that we weren't allowed to touch. Not even my classmate who had actually been taking guitar and drums lessons since he was 6 was allowed to pick up a guitar or a drum stick through all 10 years of public school. What's the point in having all that crap then?! Hate hate HATE hate recorder music as performed by Junior school kids, especially because they team them up with Violinists... And its always out of tune with each other?.... If you want to hear recorders being put through the paces, try this bit.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 25, 2015 23:03:38 GMT
Ugh! The recorder! Oddly enough, I always found myself being sent to the hall to "think about my behavior" when that thing was pulled out during music class. And just why is music class not an optional class? I don't see how 30 kids and a tone deaf teacher screeching in unison will advance a child's academic performance in any way. As far as preparing children for the world outside, music class is utterly useless and should be reserved for the kids who actually WANT to take part. EDIT: And music teachers should be required to be able to teach the kids who WANT to take part to actually sing or play an instrument, not just puff on a recorder and sing stupid nursery rhymes and children's songs. Our music class room was full of all kinds of instruments that we weren't allowed to touch. Not even my classmate who had actually been taking guitar and drums lessons since he was 6 was allowed to pick up a guitar or a drum stick through all 10 years of public school. What's the point in having all that crap then?! Hate hate HATE hate recorder music as performed by Junior school kids, especially because they team them up with Violinists... And its always out of tune with each other?.... If you want to hear recorders being put through the paces, try this bit. Yeah... That's either pre-recorded and dubbed, or that's not her playing at all. She does a good job faking it, but there are just a few moments throughout the video where noise is "coming out of the recorder", but her lips aren't touching it. Now, I'm no expert, but as far as I know, any kind of flute requires air to be moving through it in order to make sounds. If she's pushing air through it with her mouth away from the mouthpiece and while she's drawing air in, I'm THOROUGHLY impressed! Besides that, whoever did play that is surely very talented, but it's still a recorder and as such, totally incapable of being cool.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Feb 26, 2015 4:02:38 GMT
Playing "Bohemian Rhapsody" with an electric recorder??
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Post by the light works on Feb 26, 2015 4:48:38 GMT
well, if you want to go electric...
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 26, 2015 7:30:46 GMT
ANTI-electric, this is the first ever "Unplugged" video. (Well, what remains of the set played that first time on MTV...)
[just for the record, in case you were wondering, the main performers are from a UK band, Squeeze ]
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 27, 2015 9:39:19 GMT
Playing "Bohemian Rhapsody" with an electric recorder?? Nope... Still a flute...
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