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Post by silverdragon on Mar 2, 2016 8:08:03 GMT
"Pride and Prejudice and Zombies"
Seriously?... For one, the pride and prejudice thing is a known "Minority interest" thing.....
Combine that with Zombies, also a minority interest, and you have almost polar opposite interests, as in interest in one would disinterest the other?.....
So who will be interested?...
The fact it HAS made $14million already is perhaps a surprise.
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Post by the light works on Mar 2, 2016 15:32:03 GMT
"Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" Seriously?... For one, the pride and prejudice thing is a known "Minority interest" thing..... Combine that with Zombies, also a minority interest, and you have almost polar opposite interests, as in interest in one would disinterest the other?..... So who will be interested?... The fact it HAS made $14million already is perhaps a surprise. zombies are hugely fashionable at the moment. and it is essentially a farce, which while a minority interest, good ones quickly expand.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 2, 2016 18:40:54 GMT
The biggest issue with the PPZ film is that it only loosely follows the PPZ book.
Basically, the writers decided that they needed a big bad above and beyond the zombies themselves, and so turned a minor villain (a liar whose web of deceit eventually leads to his becoming a paraplegic) into a major one (a traitor whose actions cause the fall of a major city).
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 3, 2016 7:14:07 GMT
So is stupidity. I know, "walking dead" and all that... Why?.
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Post by the light works on Mar 3, 2016 14:46:14 GMT
So is stupidity. I know, "walking dead" and all that... Why?. you got me. walking dead is one of those vicarious sociopathy shows.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 19, 2016 8:37:41 GMT
Got to toying with Box Office Mojo earlier. "Jem" made $2.18 million US Domestic, putting it at #180 for the year. 1986's "Transformers: The Movie" made $5.85 million US Domestic, putting it at #99 for 1986 (and just a few notches below the "My Little Pony" movie). TF:TM was written off as an unmitigated dud; it was seen as so disastrous that the production budget was never made public. The fact that both it and the MLP movie did so poorly led to Hasbro deciding that 1987's G. I. Joe movie would be direct-to-video rather than risk a third box office failure in a row. ...Yet it *still* made more than double what Jem did. However, things become even worse when you factor in inflation. According to the website's adjustment feature ( www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=1986&adjust_yr=2015&p=.htm ), in 2015 dollars TF:TM pulled in $13.29 million US Domestic. That's just over six times the take. That should say just how hard "Jem" failed.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 26, 2016 20:44:42 GMT
Save your money when it comes to the new Batman / Superman movie.
It's already been confirmed that there will be a DVD release of the film (at least, the Region 1 DVD release) which will include a number of deleted sequences; not only will these sequences include additional characters, the content of these scenes has pushed the rating from a PG-13 to an R.
As such, I'd suggest waiting for the movie to come out at rental and watching it then when it's intact instead of in the fashion that's currently playing in theaters.
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Post by the light works on Mar 27, 2016 2:19:33 GMT
Save your money when it comes to the new Batman / Superman movie. It's already been confirmed that there will be a DVD release of the film (at least, the Region 1 DVD release) which will include a number of deleted sequences; not only will these sequences include additional characters, the content of these scenes has pushed the rating from a PG-13 to an R. As such, I'd suggest waiting for the movie to come out at rental and watching it then when it's intact instead of in the fashion that's currently playing in theaters. the question is whether it fixes missing things or it adds bloat.
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Post by mrfatso on Mar 27, 2016 9:39:11 GMT
Save your money when it comes to the new Batman / Superman movie. It's already been confirmed that there will be a DVD release of the film (at least, the Region 1 DVD release) which will include a number of deleted sequences; not only will these sequences include additional characters, the content of these scenes has pushed the rating from a PG-13 to an R. As such, I'd suggest waiting for the movie to come out at rental and watching it then when it's intact instead of in the fashion that's currently playing in theaters. the question is whether it fixes missing things or it adds bloat. There is also the question of would you be happy to watch a PG-13 ( 12A here) film with any younger members of the family you might want to take or an R (18 here) later at home.
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Post by the light works on Mar 27, 2016 13:09:10 GMT
the question is whether it fixes missing things or it adds bloat. There is also the question of would you be happy to watch a PG-13 ( 12A here) film with any younger members of the family you might want to take or an R (18 here) later at home. not that I don't plan to watch it, but I have been less impressed with the DC comics universe than the Marvel comics universe adaptations of late. actually, come to think of it, I have always preferred Marvel, overall.
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Post by mrfatso on Mar 27, 2016 13:34:31 GMT
There is also the question of would you be happy to watch a PG-13 ( 12A here) film with any younger members of the family you might want to take or an R (18 here) later at home. not that I don't plan to watch it, but I have been less impressed with the DC comics universe than the Marvel comics universe adaptations of late. actually, come to think of it, I have always preferred Marvel, overall. We already have tickets booked to go see it, in July when a small local theatre will have a print after the major Multiplex chains have finished with it. I prefer to keep the local one in business even if it means seeing some films later than normal. But I think you are right, the Disney Marvel films have been better than the DC ones, I will exclude the a Sony Fantastic Four movie.
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Post by the light works on Mar 27, 2016 13:42:58 GMT
not that I don't plan to watch it, but I have been less impressed with the DC comics universe than the Marvel comics universe adaptations of late. actually, come to think of it, I have always preferred Marvel, overall. We already have tickets booked to go see it, in July when a small local theatre will have a print after the major Multiplex chains have finished with it. I prefer to keep the local one in business even if it means seeing some films later than normal. But I think you are right, the Disney Marvel films have been better than the DC ones, I will exclude the a Sony Fantastic Four movie. I will watch that one, too. but yes, I prefer the disney styling to the darker more brooding themes in the current DC batch.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 27, 2016 17:53:37 GMT
DC tends to do TV and animated series a hell of a lot better than Marvel. Marvel tends to do Films better than DC, although the quality does vary since Marvel films are split between three different studio's.
The reason seems to be a mixture of DC giving their animated and TV series a more adult tone, even if they are technically for kids in many cases. As well as trusting the producers of those project's to get on, do their jobs and treat the character's with respect. (Both the producers on Smallville and the animated series of the 90s have noted that DC gave them more or less a free hand, only refusing to allow some characters to be used in cases where they had other plans for them)
In the case of BvS if you read between the lines it looks as though DC fell into the same trap Fox did with the FF, Sony jumped into with Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Marvel did with Age of Ultron; They were so eager to promote the next film they forced the director and screenwriter to add elements that messed up otherwise reasonable stories. Going off the reviews, ignoring those who mindlessly love or hate the film, the general impression is of a reasonable film crippled by bad pacing and some questionable plot elements. Although crippled might be too hash a word.
I've not seen the film, and at this point I'm not sure I'll waste what little money I have doing so. However from what I have heard I'm wondering if DC might not have been better served extending the script but splitting it into two parts. The first dealing and leading up to Batman versus Superman. The second part bringing together many of those who will go on to form the Justice League. (Which would make the actual Justice League film easier to write since some of the characters would have a better reason to team up, having worked with some of the others before). DC could have taken a chance, releasing part 1 at the end of February and part 2 at the end of March. If they want to catch up to Marvel they need to do things Marvel isn't doing. And having a film and its sequel come out a month apart might have been well worth it. There would have been no real competition for either film, enough time between them not to be a problem while allowing a single marketing strategy to cover both and cinema chains would probably see increased interest in the first film when the second comes out. Maybe even being able to show both films together as a double feature.
I'd be interested to hear what anyone who's seen the film thinks about that idea.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 28, 2016 5:11:08 GMT
Basically, the writers tried to smash "The Dark Knight Returns", "Death Of Superman", an origin story for the Justice League, and elements of "All-Star Superman" into a single film in order to cover as much ground as possible. The end result was something so mindlessly violent that a lot of kids in the theater were incredibly upset, especially given the nature of the cliffhanger the film ended on.
If nothing else, hopefully those deleted scenes will flesh out the film and improve the pacing.
The big test is going to see whether or not ticket sales remain consistent or experience a drop due to both the negative reviews and this advance announcement about the DVD release.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 28, 2016 7:34:47 GMT
I think I may wait for it to come out in Lego game first....
(The inner kid in me?)
There has always been some "Animosity" between Batman and Superman in the lego games, For one, I cant wait for the way they deal with the humour in the game... Some of the scripts for the cut-scenes in the games can be almost worth watching just for the laughs.
Plus the games are a way of spending a few hours that isnt shouting at some n00b in some online lead shower bullet fest beatemup-pet waste of time.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 28, 2016 7:36:32 GMT
As for the current generation of "Super-hero" movie. What happen to all the humour?. Some of it gets so dark I have to alter the "gamma" on my TV.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 28, 2016 22:29:20 GMT
As for the current generation of "Super-hero" movie. What happen to all the humour?. Some of it gets so dark I have to alter the "gamma" on my TV. When the decision was made to reboot the Batman movie franchise, the new films went for "dark" since that was so successful for the franchise during the 1980s and throughout the run of "Batman: The Animated Series". Sure enough, they got a competent writing and directing team at the helm who was able to make "dark" work again. In fact, they pulled it off so well that they actually triggered numerous discussions about philosophy and psychology as concerns the character. Unfortunately, Warner Brothers decided that since "dark" served Batman so well, it'd serve Superman and all of their other heroes as well... even if those heroes were never about "dark" in the first place.
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Post by the light works on Mar 29, 2016 0:15:22 GMT
As for the current generation of "Super-hero" movie. What happen to all the humour?. Some of it gets so dark I have to alter the "gamma" on my TV. When the decision was made to reboot the Batman movie franchise, the new films went for "dark" since that was so successful for the franchise during the 1980s and throughout the run of "Batman: The Animated Series". Sure enough, they got a competent writing and directing team at the helm who was able to make "dark" work again. In fact, they pulled it off so well that they actually triggered numerous discussions about philosophy and psychology as concerns the character. Unfortunately, Warner Brothers decided that since "dark" served Batman so well, it'd serve Superman and all of their other heroes as well... even if those heroes were never about "dark" in the first place. yeah, the irony of having the symbol of hope on your chest, and then destroying the city in the process of saving it was not lost on me.
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Post by the light works on Mar 30, 2016 21:20:30 GMT
on the subject of superhero movies and darkness, I saw the latest version of fantastic 4, and it was, indeed, a very dark movie. I guess in a dark theater, you could see it, but I sure had trouble seeing any detail.
it was also a significant revision of the backstory. another case of it being a decent movie, but still out in left field.
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Post by ironhold on Mar 30, 2016 23:58:53 GMT
on the subject of superhero movies and darkness, I saw the latest version of fantastic 4, and it was, indeed, a very dark movie. I guess in a dark theater, you could see it, but I sure had trouble seeing any detail. it was also a significant revision of the backstory. another case of it being a decent movie, but still out in left field. Supposedly, it was based on an alternate origin story used in a somewhat obscure-by-comparison alternate Marvel universe in which everyone had a dark & edgy origin story.
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