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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 12:34:28 GMT
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider)If, upon exhalation, the virus is suspended in Earth's magnetic field due to the virus having a positive charge, it may not require projectile trajectory via suspension within droplets. This could explain a five fold increase in contagion when compared to influenza. The test involves suspending lone virus in a vacuum, without changing the electrostatic state of said virus upon exhalation, tracking the virus with a radioisotope marker, noting the altitude per time of the virus. 1. Introduction of radioisotope into lungs of infected patient: 2. Exhalation into collection chamber, and depressurization: (Parts above not yet worked out)
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 12:44:05 GMT
Since exhaling into a vacuum chamber is dangerous for the patient, an intermediate chamber should be used. Also, breath exhaled into a vacuum chamber would reduce state of vacuum with said chamber.
So, the final chamber itself should be huge, in order to offset the incoming air pressure from the patient.
Proposed solution: use the largest vacuum chamber currently available, collect the breath from patient into an intermediate chamber and then dump breath into the final chamber.
Next problem: somehow irradiating virus could change electrostatic charge. Ie. The observation could change the experiment.
And, how to identify, specifically, just the virus among other things.
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 11, 2020 12:51:31 GMT
Maybe they should just put their efforts in to figuring out how to kill the damn thing.
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 12:55:10 GMT
Maybe they should just put their efforts in to figuring out how to kill the damn thing. Pretty sure that's the vaccine. That could take a while. HydroxyChloroqin treatments can be stressful on heart patients. Knowing exactly how to dodge the virus maybe useful in the interim. |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 13:17:10 GMT
It's the difference between using a basic N95 mask and requiring a P-100 respirator mask with goggles. The finer the particle and the longer suspended, the higher the contagion factor - don't get it in your eyes. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20102425/ |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 13:27:38 GMT
If virus do have positive charge and are suspended in positive magnetosphere, it may be possible to collect suspended particulate and observe later under electron microscope. Where other debris falls to chamber floor, whether a radioisotope or not.
Problem: introduction of most radioisotopes introduce an increase of mass and weight, thereby changing buoyancy.
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 11, 2020 13:36:16 GMT
Neodymium helmets
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 13:38:19 GMT
I think the vacuum would significantly affect the results. by which I mean, it is most likely that if the virus does do EM ballooning, it is most likely in combination with buoyancy from the atmosphere, so by removing the atmosphere, you are now comparing fall rates in vacuum. I think the experiment would probably be better done in controlled atmospheres of known density and the density could be selected to try to achieve the easiest fall rates to measure and compare.
I'm also inclined to say, start with a proof of concept with charged particles and then try to isolate and manipulate the viruses outside the body. it may be the only episode that has all the experiments filmed through a microscope.
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 11, 2020 13:41:00 GMT
I think the vacuum would significantly affect the results. by which I mean, it is most likely that if the virus does do EM ballooning, it is most likely in combination with buoyancy from the atmosphere, so by removing the atmosphere, you are now comparing fall rates in vacuum. I think the experiment would probably be better done in controlled atmospheres of known density and the density could be selected to try to achieve the easiest fall rates to measure and compare. I'm also inclined to say, start with a proof of concept with charged particles and then try to isolate and manipulate the viruses outside the body. it may be the only episode that has all the experiments filmed through a microscope. Sounds like exciting TV. |
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 13:52:08 GMT
I think the vacuum would significantly affect the results. by which I mean, it is most likely that if the virus does do EM ballooning, it is most likely in combination with buoyancy from the atmosphere, so by removing the atmosphere, you are now comparing fall rates in vacuum. I think the experiment would probably be better done in controlled atmospheres of known density and the density could be selected to try to achieve the easiest fall rates to measure and compare. I'm also inclined to say, start with a proof of concept with charged particles and then try to isolate and manipulate the viruses outside the body. it may be the only episode that has all the experiments filmed through a microscope. Sounds like exciting TV. yeah, they need to find a way to make it explode to draw the other half of the mythbusters audience. |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 13:58:50 GMT
If this was considered watchable, then what The Light Works proposed with tracking the viruses airborne buoyancy might be worth giving a go. Right?
Professor Cox and fearher-bowlingball drop-
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 14:05:11 GMT
If this was considered watchable, then what The Light Works proposed with tracking the viruses airborne buoyancy might be worth giving a go. Right? Professor Cox and fearher-bowlingball drop- I like the bounce from the feathers. |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 14:12:15 GMT
I think the vacuum would significantly affect the results. by which I mean, it is most likely that if the virus does do EM ballooning, it is most likely in combination with buoyancy from the atmosphere, so by removing the atmosphere, you are now comparing fall rates in vacuum. I think the experiment would probably be better done in controlled atmospheres of known density and the density could be selected to try to achieve the easiest fall rates to measure and compare. I'm also inclined to say, start with a proof of concept with charged particles and then try to isolate and manipulate the viruses outside the body. it may be the only episode that has all the experiments filmed through a microscope. Perhaps an initial test involves an infected patient merely exhaling over (or under) the negative pole of a magnet. (Exhaling in a number of different exhalation strengths)... the negative pole could then be examined under electron microscope for positively charged virus (and the positive pole could be inspected too) Edit: Actually, no. The path of the charged particle may curve, but as far as actually being physically collected onto the magnetic surface may not occur. May need a negatively charged surface for that. |
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 15:15:15 GMT
I think the vacuum would significantly affect the results. by which I mean, it is most likely that if the virus does do EM ballooning, it is most likely in combination with buoyancy from the atmosphere, so by removing the atmosphere, you are now comparing fall rates in vacuum. I think the experiment would probably be better done in controlled atmospheres of known density and the density could be selected to try to achieve the easiest fall rates to measure and compare. I'm also inclined to say, start with a proof of concept with charged particles and then try to isolate and manipulate the viruses outside the body. it may be the only episode that has all the experiments filmed through a microscope. Perhaps an initial test involves an infected patient merely exhaling over (or under) the negative pole of a magnet. (Exhaling in a number of different exhalation strengths)... the negative pole could then be examined under electron microscope for positively charged virus (and the positive pole could be inspected too) Edit: Actually, no. The path of the charged particle may curve, but as far as actually being physically collected onto the magnetic surface may not occur. May need a negatively charged surface for that. part of why I figured starting with known charges would help figure out the best test platform. |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 15:36:50 GMT
Oh, right.
Btw, if it turns out Covid19 is positively charged in some cases, and attains a degree of airborne buoyancy as a result, could there be defenses derived from this?
A means to neutralize positive charge, or collect positively charged particles in a mask before being inhaled? Or deflect said positively charged viruses?
Perhaps certain humidity levels can neutralize a charge?
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 15:38:37 GMT
Oh, right. Btw, if it turns out Covid19 is positively charged in some cases, and attains a degree of airborne buoyancy as a result, could there be defenses derived from this? A means to neutralize positive charge, or collect positively charged particles in a mask before being inhaled? Or deflect said positively charged viruses? Perhaps certain humidity levels can neutralize a charge? positively charged mask, negatively charged collectors. |
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Post by rmc on Apr 11, 2020 16:16:00 GMT
Oh, right. Btw, if it turns out Covid19 is positively charged in some cases, and attains a degree of airborne buoyancy as a result, could there be defenses derived from this? A means to neutralize positive charge, or collect positively charged particles in a mask before being inhaled? Or deflect said positively charged viruses? Perhaps certain humidity levels can neutralize a charge? positively charged mask, negatively charged collectors. I like the positively charged mask, but wonder how you keep it charged... And, if the wearer is the infected one, and his/her breath gets through such mask, could the positive charges involved end up accelerating the infection toward someone else? |
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Post by the light works on Apr 11, 2020 18:55:18 GMT
positively charged mask, negatively charged collectors. I like the positively charged mask, but wonder how you keep it charged... And, if the wearer is the infected one, and his/her breath gets through such mask, could the positive charges involved end up accelerating the infection toward someone else? that would probably work best with the headgear concept hospitals and labs are using, preferably one with both the inlet and exhaust through tubes and filters. also a general air filtration system with a negatively charged primary filter followed by a positively charged secondary filter might make a good air scrubber for positively charged contaminants. |
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Post by Cybermortis on Apr 15, 2020 0:58:14 GMT
You rig a small fan into the mask that rotates as air passes into and out of the mask and helps charge up the battery. You'd probably also want the mask to automatically activate when air is passed through it, which bypasses the most obvious risk of someone simply forgetting to turn it on.
You wouldn't need a massive electrical charge here so such a system would probably be able to at least extend the life of the batteries. A simple USB recharging port could be used for full recharge, which would also allow for long term use both by simply plugging it into a main power source or through portable phone recharging batteries.
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Post by the light works on Apr 15, 2020 2:38:40 GMT
You rig a small fan into the mask that rotates as air passes into and out of the mask and helps charge up the battery. You'd probably also want the mask to automatically activate when air is passed through it, which bypasses the most obvious risk of someone simply forgetting to turn it on. You wouldn't need a massive electrical charge here so such a system would probably be able to at least extend the life of the batteries. A simple USB recharging port could be used for full recharge, which would also allow for long term use both by simply plugging it into a main power source or through portable phone recharging batteries. for a low current application you could also use a charging system something like a modern kinetic charged watch - an imbalanced flywheel inside an armature. |
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