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Post by silverdragon on Oct 24, 2013 8:32:47 GMT
Radial saw, I use a version of that which isnt so "High rise" as a radial saw... its just a chop saw... but a good one that slides in and out as well as up and down. I can get the same angles and compound angles as a Radial, I just have to think it through.... And if that doesnt work, I just get free-hand with a circular saw and a work-bench.....
If you can use a plane, you can use a spokeshave... They are incredibly easy to use, and once you start using one and forget trying too hard, they are almost intuitive, and "Why didnt I think of this before".
Spokeshave, its a plane in reverse, because you tend to pull it towards you with both hands. And do it gently as well. Its a tool for taking just a little at a time off...
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Post by alabastersandman on Dec 26, 2013 9:15:50 GMT
Radial saw, I use a version of that which isnt so "High rise" as a radial saw... its just a chop saw... but a good one that slides in and out as well as up and down. I can get the same angles and compound angles as a Radial, I just have to think it through.... And if that doesnt work, I just get free-hand with a circular saw and a work-bench..... If you can use a plane, you can use a spokeshave... They are incredibly easy to use, and once you start using one and forget trying too hard, they are almost intuitive, and "Why didnt I think of this before". Spokeshave, its a plane in reverse, because you tend to pull it towards you with both hands. And do it gently as well. Its a tool for taking just a little at a time off... I do believe you just talked me into buying one, thanks!
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 8, 2014 10:07:45 GMT
What have I talked you into?... the saw of the spokeshave?....
By the way, I just spoke to someone, about a week ago, on the spokeshave subject. He says they are infuriating to teach someone how to use. They are good at making a thick piece of wood thinner...... He claims that getting a spoke, or any cylindrical shape, out of a spokeshave is not easy for beginners..... It how and when you turn the wood that makes the thing work?....
I never thought of it that way..... I suppose in a way me doing the hitching up to a trailer is pretty easy for me, but that snakes-bed of Suzie's and other connections may be a bit daunting if you didnt do it before?....
So basically, his advice is, Practise practise, practise, and dont start on the bit of wood you actually want until you are comfortable with what you are doing?....
He also said if you get one with adjustments, practise with taking off as little as possible. You get through less firewood that way......
Of course, you may like me take to it like a duck to water?.... As I said, If you have had plenty of experience with a plane before, its a lot easier.
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Post by rick4070 on Jan 9, 2014 0:22:37 GMT
By the way, I just spoke to someone, about a week ago, on the spokeshave subject. He says they are infuriating to teach someone how to use. They are good at making a thick piece of wood thinner...... He claims that getting a spoke, or any cylindrical shape, out of a spokeshave is not easy for beginners..... It how and when you turn the wood that makes the thing work?.... Well, there are spokeshaves, and then there are spokeshaves.... Some spokeshaves are flat on the bottom. like a plane, and others have a concave radius on the bottom, and the blade is ground concave also. The concave ones are what you really use to make a cylindrical item. There are even spokeshaves that are convex on the bottom, for inside curves. That being said, a flat spokeshave CAN be used to make a cylinder, start from square, make it octagonal, then work the 8 corners down to round.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 9, 2014 10:51:14 GMT
In the same way not all chisels are flat.......
The right tool for the job is often one that works. Knowing which one is the mark of the experienced... And you cant get experience without a few blanks, and a LOT of firewood.
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Post by rick4070 on Jan 9, 2014 16:13:50 GMT
Wood chisels are mostly flat, in my experience,although there are some chisels that have the blade sharpened at an angle, like a skew chisel, and there are special bottoming chisels, like gooseneck chisels, but they are flat on the bottom too.
Now gouges, those are not flat, of course, but gouges ain't chisels...
And, there are incannel and outcannel ground gouges, mostly you see outcannel, so you can use the bevel to help control depth, but I used incannel gouges a lot to inlet the metal work into firearms, such as around the rear tang, trigger guards, etc., easier to pare away the wood on a radius down into the wood, as you can go straight down, rather than trying to cant the gouge because of the outcannel bevel.
Come to think about it, veiners ain't chisels neither...
But, yes, you do have to whittle down some sticks into kindling in order to gain experience...
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 10, 2014 8:03:12 GMT
And then you have the chisels my Dad used on his lathe.... Some of them were anything BUT flat.
... they are still technically chisels, though some people have different names for those that you use on a lathe.
I got experience through those, and the best advice is GENTLE.
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Post by the light works on Jan 10, 2014 15:14:32 GMT
And then you have the chisels my Dad used on his lathe.... Some of them were anything BUT flat. ... they are still technically chisels, though some people have different names for those that you use on a lathe. I got experience through those, and the best advice is GENTLE. I think in the US, the terminology standard is that it is only a chisel, if you bring the tool to stationary material. I know I was taught individual names for the tools that went with the lathe, but I forget what collective term was used.
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Post by alabastersandman on Jul 23, 2015 3:59:25 GMT
A couple more (of too many) projects I'm hoping to get done some year. To the left is a rack (White Oak) I am making to store veggies, potato's, and the like. All too often when I store them in the cupboard I tend to forget them until they have morphed into a toxic stew, the hope is that if I can keep them in sight, I won't throw so many away. In the background is a glass top table with something Cedar going on underneath. My first thought was to just trim it to fit, pretty much as shown. My next thought was to cut it into four triangles and then piece those together "book matched". Still contemplating what to do with the legs. Might make the legs to sort of match the feet & uprights on the coffee table I made (Right - photo montage compliments of my wife) Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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Post by alabastersandman on Jul 23, 2015 4:05:05 GMT
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Post by alabastersandman on Jul 23, 2015 4:35:24 GMT
I know this is for works "in progress" this qualifies in that I am contemplating making a rawhide shade for it. The lamp is made of Black Palm and Boxelder Attachment Deleted
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 25, 2015 7:29:07 GMT
Hmmm... how about something like this...
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Post by alabastersandman on Jul 28, 2015 12:33:57 GMT
Hmmm... how about something like this... I have actually dabbled in "Stained Glass," back in 1982 if I remember correctly. Nothing of this caliber but I did manage a couple lidded boxes and a rectangular candle thing, to put a candle in, as people do with candle things. Seriously though, it was about 3X3X12" and the intent was for a candle to be placed in it. I moved too many times and I haven't a clue how long ago it/they disappeared. My Aunt would have enjoyed the challenge of making this from wood and glass, she was the master with a "Scroll Saw". I donated my Scroll Saw to a fund raiser to help out a friend whose daughter was ill. I never had the patience for it anyway, I kept breaking blades. The Scroll saw I had community.woodmagazine.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/4573i23FB994C317F0077?v=mpbl-1 (not mine but same model) had the lower blade mount buried inside a metal housing with a tiny access plate. It probably would had performed better if I wasn't trying to cut woods like Keruing, Bloodwood, and many other dense exotic hardwoods. My Aunt, from what have seen made mostly Mantle/Cookoo clocks and wasn't shy about complicating the project with intricate cutouts. It would have to either be made out of an "inside" and an "outside" or else the groove to hold in the glass would need to be cut out by hand with a rotary tool She is getting up there in years now and gave up woodworking. She sent me her remaining stock of wood, Mahogany, cedar, as well as a few pieces of this and that. She also sold me her "Z-VICE" which is a handy and versatile vice.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 29, 2015 5:43:48 GMT
Have you thought of Try doing it in Lead. No seriously.... Many years since, but I once did a small piece or restoration work for a Window on a friends house with Lead strips, getting that was an education, and once you get into it, its kind of neat?...
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Post by alabastersandman on Aug 15, 2015 3:30:18 GMT
Have you thought of Try doing it in Lead. No seriously.... Many years since, but I once did a small piece or restoration work for a Window on a friends house with Lead strips, getting that was an education, and once you get into it, its kind of neat?... I have not used lead myself but it was used by others in the class I took. What I used was a metal foil that wrapped around the edge of the glass pieces. Then hit it with some Flux and solder it.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Sept 14, 2015 21:04:47 GMT
Most of the patterns I've seen for stained glass lamps use copper foil to wrap the glass pieces. I suppose you could make a lamp with lead came, but you'd want to build reinforcement into it -- large stained glass windows (made with lead) need rebar to help support their weight, and a lampshade is a more complicated shape. In other projects, I put together a new Shinrone gown (and leine) last week for a RenFaire trip. And just because, here's a picture of my "assistant":
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Post by the light works on Sept 15, 2015 2:38:50 GMT
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Post by alabastersandman on Sept 30, 2015 8:06:09 GMT
Somewhere I have a clipping of an old comic, I don't even recall what the comic was but it was a nerd just inside the front door after receiving a package from one of his nerd friends. Upon opening it... the caption reads "Put out the cat mom, it's a thermal Nuclear bomb"! And of course there was the clock counting down on the days challenge.
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