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Post by silverdragon on Sept 28, 2016 7:00:28 GMT
another word in favor of sat-nag. there was a dead pedestrian found after a wet night. the media publicised that there had been a hit and run in the area. a guy turned himself in, saying he had been in the area at the time, and thought he hit a deer, but had made a U-turn and retraced to look, but didn't find it. the police took his truck as evidence and interrogated his sat-nag. the sat-nag corroborated his story, showing he had, indeed, stopped, turned around, and retraced past where she was hit. because of that evidence, he was NOT charged with hit and run, and the incident was ruled an accident. He DOES express his condolences to her family, as it is still a tragedy. I run a Dash cam, for when a picture is worth a thousand words.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Oct 3, 2016 20:37:13 GMT
Maybe this isn't "All good" but it sure does have a positive message and positive way of dealing with negativity.
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Post by the light works on Oct 3, 2016 20:53:03 GMT
Maybe this isn't "All good" but it sure does have a positive message and positive way of dealing with negativity. so whoever left the note assumed that because the girl was black she was not capable of letting herself out of the car, safely? I see two possible issues for the busybody: 1 being an assumption that everybody else is racist, and the other being latent racism, in their own attitudes. since the note said nothing about age, I think we can safely assume it is not the case that the writer used black as a convenient reference but thought the girl was too young for that level of trust. (correction made in the last sentence)
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Post by ponytail61 on Oct 4, 2016 2:16:31 GMT
Maybe this isn't "All good" but it sure does have a positive message and positive way of dealing with negativity. so whoever left the note assumed that because the girl was black she was not capable of letting herself out of the car, safely? I see two possible issues for the busybody: 1 being an assumption that everybody else is racist, and the other being latent racism, in their own attitudes. since the note said nothing about age, I think we can safely assume it is not the case that the writer used black as a convenient reference but thought the girl was too young for that level of trust. (correction made in the last sentence) The girl looks about 10 to 12 yrs old. I would hope she can get out of the car on her own
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Post by the light works on Oct 4, 2016 2:25:45 GMT
so whoever left the note assumed that because the girl was black she was not capable of letting herself out of the car, safely? I see two possible issues for the busybody: 1 being an assumption that everybody else is racist, and the other being latent racism, in their own attitudes. since the note said nothing about age, I think we can safely assume it is not the case that the writer used black as a convenient reference but thought the girl was too young for that level of trust. (correction made in the last sentence) The girl looks about 10 to 12 yrs old. I would hope she can get out of the car on her own well, the pictures kind of show why they were paying more attention to the white one's safety than the black one's.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Oct 4, 2016 5:03:28 GMT
The girl looks about 10 to 12 yrs old. I would hope she can get out of the car on her own well, the pictures kind of show why they were paying more attention to the white one's safety than the black one's. At that age a child of any race should be more than capable of crossing a parking lot without supervision. The ONLY reason someone that old would need to be supervised would be if they had a mental deficiency that rendered them in need of help. I think the person who wrote that note is just a interfering, clothset racist busy body who needs to get a life.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 5, 2016 22:20:33 GMT
well, the pictures kind of show why they were paying more attention to the white one's safety than the black one's. At that age a child of any race should be more than capable of crossing a parking lot without supervision. The ONLY reason someone that old would need to be supervised would be if they had a mental deficiency that rendered them in need of help. I think the person who wrote that note is just a interfering, clothset racist busy body who needs to get a life. It's called projection. You can't fess up to your own shortcomings and can't be bothered to do anything about them, so you spend your time and energy pointing fingers at others instead.
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Post by the light works on Oct 6, 2016 1:00:13 GMT
At that age a child of any race should be more than capable of crossing a parking lot without supervision. The ONLY reason someone that old would need to be supervised would be if they had a mental deficiency that rendered them in need of help. I think the person who wrote that note is just a interfering, clothset racist busy body who needs to get a life. It's called projection. You can't fess up to your own shortcomings and can't be bothered to do anything about them, so you spend your time and energy pointing fingers at others instead. projection is specifically, when you accuse someone else of your own faults in order to try to distract from your own faults.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 6, 2016 20:43:12 GMT
It's called projection. You can't fess up to your own shortcomings and can't be bothered to do anything about them, so you spend your time and energy pointing fingers at others instead. projection is specifically, when you accuse someone else of your own faults in order to try to distract from your own faults. That's what I meant. In this case it's a closet racist accusing others of being racist.
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Post by the light works on Oct 6, 2016 23:14:10 GMT
projection is specifically, when you accuse someone else of your own faults in order to try to distract from your own faults. That's what I meant. In this case it's a closet racist accusing others of being racist. just wanted to be sure it was not, for example, a homophobe accusing others of being racists.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 7, 2016 10:36:35 GMT
That's what I meant. In this case it's a closet racist accusing others of being racist. just wanted to be sure it was not, for example, a homophobe accusing others of being racists. The other side of projection is being annoyed with/hating others for embracing a part of themselves that you wish you could embrace as well but suppress for some reason. I'm actually having a little trouble with that side of projection myself these days. I decided long ago that drinking wasn't for me anymore because it made me sulky and angry, which is pretty much the opposite of what people are going for when they drink. I think it comes from me being sort of a control freak, so I don't like the feeling of not being in complete control of my own body and mind. As a result, I've become extremely annoyed with drunk people, probably because they allow themselves to let go and just be silly for a while, which I can't. It hasn't been a real problem for a long time, because I don't socialize with that many people who drink on a regular basis, but now that Girlfriend has started school, she's talking about her and a couple of classmates getting together for a little party sometime soon. Alcohol will be involved and Girlfriend plans to partake in that aspect of it. Not that she wants to get face down drunk, but a little inebriation is to be expected. I'm not liking the idea. Every time she talks about it, I get this little knot in my stomach. Didn't get any better when she started talking about having the party at our house. Even though I know it probably won't be a complete p*ssup, as they call it in the UK (all but one of the people invited are over 30 and have kids they need to take care of the next morning), the thought of having to see her all tipsy and giggly is unpleasant to me, even as I'm writing this. And that's just from thinking of her coming home in that state from someone else's house. The thought of having her and a bunch of other people partying like that at our house is even worse. The weird thing is that knowing why I feel this way doesn't help. If anything, it's making it worse. Something inside me wishes I could let go and take part, but I know myself well enough to know that I shouldn't, because nothing good will come of it, so it just annoys me even more that they - and specifically Girlfriend - can let go and take part. Wow... Honesty bomb... Guess I just needed to get that out of my system...
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 7, 2016 13:52:26 GMT
That's a tough one Oz, especially if your GF doesn't see it the same way as you. My wife was never a heavy drinker but I was known to tie one on every now and then. After our first one was born, I just decided that alcohol would not be beneficial to raising a family. And after 35 years, I don't miss it one bit. I don't mind if other people want to drink, but I always felt a little uncomfortable seeing them doing it in front of kids (ours or their's.) I know we had this discussion here before and some think you should teach your kids to drink responsibly, but I preferred just to teach them not to drink at all. It worked for our family. Both my kids are adults now and neither one drinks.
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Post by the light works on Oct 7, 2016 14:24:03 GMT
just wanted to be sure it was not, for example, a homophobe accusing others of being racists. The other side of projection is being annoyed with/hating others for embracing a part of themselves that you wish you could embrace as well but suppress for some reason. I'm actually having a little trouble with that side of projection myself these days. I decided long ago that drinking wasn't for me anymore because it made me sulky and angry, which is pretty much the opposite of what people are going for when they drink. I think it comes from me being sort of a control freak, so I don't like the feeling of not being in complete control of my own body and mind. As a result, I've become extremely annoyed with drunk people, probably because they allow themselves to let go and just be silly for a while, which I can't. It hasn't been a real problem for a long time, because I don't socialize with that many people who drink on a regular basis, but now that Girlfriend has started school, she's talking about her and a couple of classmates getting together for a little party sometime soon. Alcohol will be involved and Girlfriend plans to partake in that aspect of it. Not that she wants to get face down drunk, but a little inebriation is to be expected. I'm not liking the idea. Every time she talks about it, I get this little knot in my stomach. Didn't get any better when she started talking about having the party at our house. Even though I know it probably won't be a complete p*ssup, as they call it in the UK (all but one of the people invited are over 30 and have kids they need to take care of the next morning), the thought of having to see her all tipsy and giggly is unpleasant to me, even as I'm writing this. And that's just from thinking of her coming home in that state from someone else's house. The thought of having her and a bunch of other people partying like that at our house is even worse. The weird thing is that knowing why I feel this way doesn't help. If anything, it's making it worse. Something inside me wishes I could let go and take part, but I know myself well enough to know that I shouldn't, because nothing good will come of it, so it just annoys me even more that they - and specifically Girlfriend - can let go and take part. Wow... Honesty bomb... Guess I just needed to get that out of my system... I often find intoxicated people annoying just because they are annoying. particularly the type that think because they are drunk, you should be, too.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 8, 2016 15:05:17 GMT
I know the feeling well. I am "dry" to all extents and porpoises, I seldom drink, yet, "well why cant you have just one" is still a serious family question when we are together... If I have one, I want another, so I stay dry, and blame it on the fact I have to drive home "Well you can still have one and be legal?" And then they start to go into exactly how much I can have and be still under the limit like I dont know and they are "Educating" me?. Yeah, Me. The Ex Pub Landlord. Who's job it is to KNOW how much alcohol is in a drink. I dont know of course, 40 yrs experience. I need you to tell me. Go on please. I am intrigued.
Too much sarcasm?... you think?...
My Scottish part of the family accept the "I am driving", and ask what else I would like, no questions, no problems. My other side of the family seize on it like its some weakness that has to be "Broken" and start the badgering like they NEED to wear me down, thats their only goal for the night..... And then THEY get all upset when I announce I am going to leave if they dont stop the continual pestering?.. This is just my family, not all families are the same, but some differ only slightly...
I have spent a lot of my working life around drunks in various stages of obliteration, I know how it goes, and one thing I hate more than anything else is "Family pressure". I have seen more arguments started by Family than anything else.
Except "the special one". Every family or group of friends has one... They go suddenly deaf when they ask you what you want to drink, and cant hear anything else except you asking for the hardest alcohol in the establishment with intent of a drinking game to see just "Who can drink who under the table". You ask for anything else, and they just keep repeating "I didnt hear that" or some other variation of "pardon?.." until you request strong drink, and whatever you ask for has a shot of vodka added "just for fun" anyway, if you ask for a whisky it will be a double at least.
And then, you just having one and then home, and the challenge goes up... "Jäger-bomb"
This, in the darkest corners of a storage room somewhere in Dante's infernal cellar at the bottom of the 8.5'th level of hell, is a concoction of "the strongest lager you got" with a glass of Jägermeister thrown in, glass and all, to settle near the bottom and empty into the drink as you drink it... And the idea is "Down in one". The internal Jaeger glass MUST hit your lips before you stop drinking....
The last time someone did that on me, I had left before they realised I had gone, I saw them wobbling back from the bar with a tray of about a dozen glasses, one for each of us at the table, and realised I needed to be somewhere else?... I think they had had maybe tree or four more of them before the phone rang "Wheeeze are youze?.. " I just said "I need to do something before I forget I will catch up with you later, give us an hour..." Never did, they must have forgotten about it.
But the next day?.. The stories?... Who did what to whom with what and for how much. Strange thing is, they all sort of remembered me being there to the very death.....
On Whisky, No Pollution, No Dilution. "You want anything with it" is usually answered with the joke "yes, another one". The very idea of throwing Whisky into anything else?... about as abdominal as suggesting cooking with a single malt.
And the idea that the night is only over when your either thrown out or cant actually stand without assistance?.. It has been a few decades since that happened to me.
Watching other people do that, I have a "safe space", its working the bar. Being part of a crowd that does that, I manage the first hour and then have to go because I have [xyz] early in the morning.... "I have to drive for a living, and be sober doing that, so unless you want me to spill a hundred gallons of acid through your letterbox tomorrow, I cant stay all night...."
Thankfully, the people that know me now, where I have lived for the last 10 yrs, are well accustomed to me not being a great drinker.
And I wont go into the art of the Landlords "half" and palming drinks ... the art of not drinking as much as it looks like you are.... we have ways and methods. Its a dark art.
Let me just say, I had a "thick glass", that looked like it held half pint, that held a little over 5oz....
I know a few of them. Thats all I need to say isnt it?.
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Post by the light works on Oct 8, 2016 15:23:09 GMT
I guess I should say I've known a few who were fine, and MOST accepted the Designated Driver card. but there are a lot of people out there who can't wrap their heads around the fact that a person might prefer to know that their brain is operating at 100%. and not find inebriation fun at all.
"dude, we had so much fun last night." "oh? what did you do?" "I can't remember"
"then how do you know you had fun?"
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 8, 2016 15:41:12 GMT
For a country that "pretends" to lead they way on anti drink driving, we lag far behind in the idea of "Designated driver". Those that are, are subject to a lot of derision..... Especially by the very people they are supposed to be driving?... I mean WTF?... The poor sod is offering to stay off the drink and tramp your drunk backsides all over town so YOU can have fun, and part of that is making fun outa them for caring about your safety?.. For the record. In MY pub, the one I ran, if you had evidence you were the designated driver, and often that was just that you were the butt of many jokes and the one asking for "orange jouce", I kept one of my Coffee pots and real fresh ground coffee on tap at the back of the bar and would server free refills all night to the designated driver. Ultimate respect. For anyone parked in my car park who surrendered the keys for overnight storage of their vehicle, minded that they wont get it back until mid day, their last drink was on the house [dont take the pizza?...] as long as they were not intoxicated before they arrived... And yes, I did have one person try to "dump" his car there for the night after getting slitherined in another pub, and try and get a free pint outa me for doing that as well. I also offered use of my shelf that was good at blocking phone calls, for those liable to get called out for work to store their phones in. It was just pone part of my pub was a total black-spot for phone signals, the bit behind the bar... sometimes I had up to 20 phones on there at the same time....
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 8, 2016 15:44:57 GMT
In my early days, I worked in a pub, where there was a tea-towel hung on the shelf where the phone was. I was intrigued.... The phone rang. It was "Gladys" looking for her "Bill" The landlord does no more than put the tea-towel over his head, and says calmly, "Yeah, he was here earlier, but I cant see him now?...."
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Post by the light works on Oct 8, 2016 15:55:19 GMT
In my early days, I worked in a pub, where there was a tea-towel hung on the shelf where the phone was. I was intrigued.... The phone rang. It was "Gladys" looking for her "Bill" The landlord does no more than put the tea-towel over his head, and says calmly, "Yeah, he was here earlier, but I cant see him now?...." it's a slightly different version, here.
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Post by OziRiS on Oct 8, 2016 23:33:37 GMT
In my early days, I worked in a pub, where there was a tea-towel hung on the shelf where the phone was. I was intrigued.... The phone rang. It was "Gladys" looking for her "Bill" The landlord does no more than put the tea-towel over his head, and says calmly, "Yeah, he was here earlier, but I cant see him now?...." I know it's a cultural thing in the UK, going to the pub on a daily basis, but I've always found it a bit sad. Even if you don't get drunk every time, just the fact that you can't go a day without ingesting alcohol at a bar - in my view - makes you an alcoholic. A functioning one perhaps, but still an alcoholic.
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Post by the light works on Oct 9, 2016 2:42:45 GMT
In my early days, I worked in a pub, where there was a tea-towel hung on the shelf where the phone was. I was intrigued.... The phone rang. It was "Gladys" looking for her "Bill" The landlord does no more than put the tea-towel over his head, and says calmly, "Yeah, he was here earlier, but I cant see him now?...." I know it's a cultural thing in the UK, going to the pub on a daily basis, but I've always found it a bit sad. Even if you don't get drunk every time, just the fact that you can't go a day without ingesting alcohol at a bar - in my view - makes you an alcoholic. A functioning one perhaps, but still an alcoholic. I think a part of it is that pubs are where guys tend to go to hang out in the UK and to a degree in the US. here we have a variety of bars, nowadays - probably the case in the UK, as well, but before, UK pubs were more of a gathering place whereas US taverns were more of a drinking place. but I kind of share the opinion that if a person cannot have leisure without alcohol, then they have too much of a priority on alcohol.
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