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Post by silverdragon on Aug 16, 2014 7:28:09 GMT
I do wonder about Golfinchians (SP?) and telephone sanitizers.... send them first?.. see if the wildlife is friendly?...
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Post by mrfatso on Aug 16, 2014 7:46:02 GMT
Or just tell the Telephone Sanitisers etal, that the arks are sent off, get them aboard their one and then either a) go somewhere very different or b) not leave the home world at all. It was never really clear that the exodus was real, or just a made up story that the useless spare parts on their ark would believe.
It's true after Star Trek we mainly see Ships in SiFi landing via either Landers or, in the case of Star Trek transporters, but that was not always the case, Flash Gordon Buck Rodgers and later Destination Moon, The Forbidden Planet all landed their main craft on the Planet surface, though in some case those ships where quite small. In Star Trek in originally the Enterprise was going to land but the budget for that was too much, so shuttles and later the transporter were invented .I am sure we can find other examples of large craft landing if we think about all the. SiFi we know, after all if you have invented antigravity propulsion or drive systems that violate the laws of physics what does it matter?
I have a vague memory for example of an anime I saw once with a Battleship flying into space, Yamato? Ironhold might know.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 16, 2014 7:53:07 GMT
I still think get the useless bunch out front as "point man", if they are slightly singed, change course..
Useless bunch will be lawyers, politicians who are useless, nail-and-hairdressers, "Personal shoppers", in fact anyone who is willing to explain their job before they give you the job title....
I am safe.
You always need Transport.
If I cant drive it fly it or sail it, I will learn...
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Post by the light works on Aug 16, 2014 8:00:48 GMT
I still think get the useless bunch out front as "point man", if they are slightly singed, change course.. Useless bunch will be lawyers, politicians who are useless, nail-and-hairdressers, "Personal shoppers", in fact anyone who is willing to explain their job before they give you the job title.... I am safe. You always need Transport. If I cant drive it fly it or sail it, I will learn... bad news: guess who they are going to need to drive the arks... |
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Post by mrfatso on Aug 16, 2014 8:01:08 GMT
Yes but they were so useless that you could not guarantee getting the message something dangerous was happening back in time, that they had not just killed themselves or that although they had not fared well, any competent group could survive on a new world.
IIRC, wasn't the ship they were on preprogrammed to crash, suggesting an attempt just to kill them off?
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 16, 2014 8:18:42 GMT
Yes but they were so useless that you could not guarantee getting the message something dangerous was happening back in time, that they had not just killed themselves or that although they had not fared well, any competent group could survive on a new world. IIRC, wasn't the ship they were on preprogrammed to crash, suggesting an attempt just to kill them off? [In Golfrinchian] It was programmed to "Land", because no one on board was capable of doing that manually..... Yes... land..... "Crash land"... I think thats what they said?.... "Because your all a bunch of useless loonies". I think that was important.... |
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Post by mrfatso on Aug 16, 2014 8:35:35 GMT
"For some reason it was programmed to crash...there was some reason for it but for it but I can't remember what it was now"
That's the scene from the TV series, though there are differences between the radio series, the books, TV show and even the stage version, that's the last time I saw it played out.
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Post by the light works on Aug 16, 2014 8:39:50 GMT
okay - apparently someone has purged all explanation of Golfrinchian from the interwebz - all google can find is people similar to how it is being used here - except for one post where they posted the source in the form of an acronym.
edit: aha - hitchhiker's guide. butit still doesn't explain the origin of golfrinchian.
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Post by memeengine on Aug 16, 2014 8:57:38 GMT
According to wikipedia:
People from Golgafrincham are called Golgafrinchans. In some versions of the novel The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, the planet is also referred to as "Golgafrinchan", but this usage is less common and is thought to be an error of typography.
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Post by the light works on Aug 16, 2014 12:03:59 GMT
According to wikipedia: People from Golgafrincham are called Golgafrinchans. In some versions of the novel The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, the planet is also referred to as "Golgafrinchan", but this usage is less common and is thought to be an error of typography. okay, now my memory has been refreshed on the subject. |
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Post by tom1b on Aug 25, 2014 17:09:28 GMT
Some real world numbers for the generation ship:
Voyager is speeding away at 38,610mph (0.000058c). Proxima Centauri, our closest stellar neighbor, is 4.24 light-years away. Take light to be 186,000mps and a year to be 365.2425 days long. PC is 24,887,074,625,280 miles away. Using Voyager's speed as a guide: 644,575,877 hours away or ~73,533 years. Where were humans at, in stages of evolution, ~73,000 years ago? What was technology like?
Get a new engine and bump that speed to 0.1c and you're still looking at a 42.4 year flight time.
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Post by the light works on Aug 25, 2014 18:25:59 GMT
Some real world numbers for the generation ship: Voyager is speeding away at 38,610mph (0.000058c). Proxima Centauri, our closest stellar neighbor, is 4.24 light-years away. Take light to be 186,000mps and a year to be 365.2425 days long. PC is 24,887,074,625,280 miles away. Using Voyager's speed as a guide: 644,575,877 hours away or ~73,533 years. Where were humans at, in stages of evolution, ~73,000 years ago? What was technology like? Get a new engine and bump that speed to 0.1c and you're still looking at a 42.4 year flight time. however, voyager is not tasked with getting to Proxima Centauri in a hurry, is it? I thought the voyager program was to study the outer planets and determine the boundaries of our system. In theory that would mean our current propulsion technology would be capable of a higher velocity, now - though we still need significant improvements for viable deep space travel. |
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 25, 2014 19:09:10 GMT
Some real world numbers for the generation ship: Voyager is speeding away at 38,610mph (0.000058c). Proxima Centauri, our closest stellar neighbor, is 4.24 light-years away. Take light to be 186,000mps and a year to be 365.2425 days long. PC is 24,887,074,625,280 miles away. Using Voyager's speed as a guide: 644,575,877 hours away or ~73,533 years. Where were humans at, in stages of evolution, ~73,000 years ago? What was technology like? Get a new engine and bump that speed to 0.1c and you're still looking at a 42.4 year flight time. however, voyager is not tasked with getting to Proxima Centauri in a hurry, is it? I thought the voyager program was to study the outer planets and determine the boundaries of our system. In theory that would mean our current propulsion technology would be capable of a higher velocity, now - though we still need significant improvements for viable deep space travel. Yeah, isn't its next task (if it can even make it that far and report back at that point) to document whatever it can of the Ort cloud? |
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Post by wvengineer on Aug 26, 2014 1:28:33 GMT
It's true after Star Trek we mainly see Ships in SiFi landing via either Landers or, in the case of Star Trek transporters, but that was not always the case, Flash Gordon Buck Rodgers and later Destination Moon, The Forbidden Planet all landed their main craft on the Planet surface, though in some case those ships where quite small. In Star Trek in originally the Enterprise was going to land but the budget for that was too much, so shuttles and later the transporter were invented .I am sure we can find other examples of large craft landing if we think about all the. SiFi we know, after all if you have invented antigravity propulsion or drive systems that violate the laws of physics what does it matter? Star trek did it the other way around. They introduced the transporter first, as early as the first pilot episode, The Cage. They didn't introduce shuttles until over halfway though the first season in the episode "The Galileo Seven." Transporters were mainly used because because they were cheaper than shuttles requiring fewer sets and fewer effects shots. Also, transporter are nice because they greatly speed up telling a story because shuttles require pauses in story momentium. |
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Post by Lokifan on Aug 26, 2014 2:30:54 GMT
Bingo.
Transporters made the story move quickly by rearranging the characters at will; shuttle made this much more difficult (and slower).
They were a cool sci-fi gadget that helped production.
Just like Doctor Who's TARDIS makes it easier to place the characters, as it's the size of a phone booth. Making it as big as a house would limit the story.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 27, 2014 12:30:03 GMT
And Will was not best pleased. .  |
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