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Post by ironhold on Sept 3, 2014 17:48:45 GMT
now I forget the Crime procedural drama TV show it was that caught a suspected bomber and fooled him into admitting where he had placed the bomb by holding him in a cell with no time references and then accelerating his customary time indicators (meals, sleep, prayer times (yes he was muslim))then pretending the bomb had gone off - and tricking him into gloating with enough lead time to find the bomb before it ACTUALLY went off. A similar plot was used in the G. I. Joe cartoon in the 1985 episode "Countdown For Zartan."The title character is a mercenary who is frequently hired by Cobra Commander, the leader of the terrorist organization known as Cobra. Zartan has been hired to infiltrate the headquarters of an international police organization as part of a plan to plant a bomb inside in order to destroy their new supercomputer. However, Zartan slips up and in so doing catches the attention of Spirit, a US Army scout who has been assigned to the building as part of the security. Spirit soon exposes Zartan (who had disguised himself as one of the officials who was supposed to be working there) and summons reinforcements. Zartan is captured and thrown in a containment cell, but refuses to tell anyone where he planted the bomb. In an effort to get him to talk, a US Marine scout named Gung-Ho decides to hang Zartan's watch - the timer having been set to when the bomb is to go off - in a place where Zartan can see it. When Zartan realizes that the officials aren't going to evacuate the building, he eventually breaks and tells everyone where he planted the bomb. The Joes, who think they only have a few seconds to find it and disarm it, locate the bomb and note that they actually have several minutes. Gung-Ho then explains that he sped up the timer on Zartan's watch before hanging it up, the idea being that Zartan's own survival instinct would outweigh his loyalty to Cobra. Zartan succeeds in escaping when Cobra Commander launches a direct military strike on the facility, but this is Cobra's only victory. Spirit rescues the official, in the process stealing a Cobra aircraft and using it to do significant damage to the Cobra outpost where the man was being held. The assault, meanwhile, is a failure, and the Joes capture several generic goons.
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Post by the light works on Sept 3, 2014 17:54:16 GMT
However, I think the Mythbusters would have trouble testing this within the constraints they have to work in. they couldn't very well isolate one of them for a week or more to try to mess with their sense of time, without having to mess with the schedule of the entire shop.
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 3, 2014 18:14:44 GMT
They might be able to do 'time flies' in a couple of days, since it wouldn't really require a build and as such they could drop the usual week of build and preparation.
A couple of tests to see if they can guess the time without the usual aids or pointers during a normal day, then maybe mess with them by moving say lunch forward or back an hour. Then have them doing something enjoyable and seeing if they are more or less accurate in guessing the time than before.
Really conclusive results would require a larger group, since individuals may have a better or worse than average internal clock. For this they would probably need volunteers and an enclosed living space - ideally somewhere remote so you can't guess the time by the sounds of traffic etc. That might be expensive, but time wise would probably be practical given that A&J wouldn't need to be there all the time and might even be able to keep track of what is going on via a webcam. (Think something like the Big Brother house). So time needed to set the 'house' up would be somewhat offset by them being able to get on and do other things in the shop when much of the testing is going on. Probably a little too complex for MB, but in theory possible within their production limits.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 3, 2014 21:04:10 GMT
There was a study done a long time back where they put subjects in a specially designed house with no windows and no clocks and then had them live their lives for a while. The found that most people would eventually work themselves into a ~24 hour routine. However, something like 1 in 6 fell into a 36 hour routine. When they emerged, they were really thrown off by oh how much time passed. now I forget the Crime procedural drama TV show it was that caught a suspected bomber and fooled him into admitting where he had placed the bomb by holding him in a cell with no time references and then accelerating his customary time indicators (meals, sleep, prayer times (yes he was muslim))then pretending the bomb had gone off - and tricking him into gloating with enough lead time to find the bomb before it ACTUALLY went off. That would be Criminal Minds Season 2, Episode 10 "Lessons Learned" I'm a HUGE fan of the show, so I recognized your description of the episode right away
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