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Post by OziRiS on Jan 20, 2017 22:28:45 GMT
I don't know. I can totally see Jamie getting excited about packaging. That, and if there's anything Jamie knows about and is known for, it's being innovative and working efficiently. Two things that are key to any industry.
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2017 22:47:55 GMT
I don't know. I can totally see Jamie getting excited about packaging. That, and if there's anything Jamie knows about and is known for, it's being innovative and working efficiently. Two things that are key to any industry. and problem solving.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 20, 2017 23:47:04 GMT
That, and if there's anything Jamie knows about and is known for, it's being innovative and working efficiently. Two things that are key to any industry. and problem solving. That's kind of inferred by the word "innovative", isn't it? Can you be innovative without being able to solve problems?
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Post by the light works on Jan 21, 2017 0:23:22 GMT
That's kind of inferred by the word "innovative", isn't it? Can you be innovative without being able to solve problems? they are definitely connected, but yes, you can be innovative without it being driven by solving problems. - which was the manner in which i was thinking of it.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 21, 2017 21:46:37 GMT
That's kind of inferred by the word "innovative", isn't it? Can you be innovative without being able to solve problems? they are definitely connected, but yes, you can be innovative without it being driven by solving problems. - which was the manner in which i was thinking of it. Being innovative might not be driven by problem-solving, but you're going to have to solve some problems at some point, or you won't succeed. Innovation is coming up with something new. Very few new things are created from start to finish without snags and setbacks along the way.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 22, 2017 10:45:30 GMT
Packaging.. Jamies Unique Selling Point is that he has thrown someone off a building and they survived by being "Properly wrapped".....
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Post by the light works on Jan 22, 2017 15:04:13 GMT
Packaging.. Jamies Unique Selling Point is that he has thrown someone off a building and they survived by being "Properly wrapped"..... this is true.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 22, 2017 15:16:17 GMT
Let's face it, Jamie didn't agree to be a speaker at this event because he is "all wrapped up" it packaging. He did it because they PAID him to do it.
Likewise, they didn't ask him to speak because they felt he was an expert on packaging technology. They did it because he was a TV personality and as such, would draw more people to the event.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 31, 2017 18:26:58 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 31, 2017 20:55:20 GMT
Here's the entire article and the Youtube video that's embedded in it. People like to discuss the ending of Titanic, particularly how the floating door was big enough to support both Jack and Rose. Maybe it was, as the show Mythbusters seemed to prove in 2012. But that's not the point, according to director James Cameron. He told The Daily Beast that Mythbusters hosts Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are "full of sh**" and explained why Jack needed to die.
"OK, so let's really play that out: you're Jack, you're in water that's 28 degrees, your brain is starting to get hypothermia," Cameron said (via Entertainment Weekly). "Mythbusters asks you to now go take off your life vest, take hers off, swim underneath this thing, attach it in some way that it won't just wash out two minutes later--which means you're underwater tying this thing on in 28-degree water, and that's going to take you five to ten minutes. So by the time you come back up you're already dead. So that wouldn't work."
"His best choice was to keep his upper body out of the water and hope to get pulled out by a boat or something before he died," Cameron added. "They're fun guys and I loved doing that show with them, but they're full of sh**."
None of the science even really matters, Cameron said, because Jack needed to die for story purposes. "Look, it's very, very simple: you read page 147 of the script and it says, 'Jack gets off the board and gives his place to her so that she can survive.' It's that simple," he said.
At $2.2 billion, Titanic is the second highest-grossing movie in history, only behind Avatar ($2.8 billion), which is another movie that Cameron directed.
In other news, Cameron recently confirmed that the script for Avatar 5 is finished. Production will begin on the long-awaited sequels this summer.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 31, 2017 20:59:20 GMT
I see GTCGreg beat me to posting the rest of the article, so that part has now been edited out of my post and I'll just leave my comment on what Cameron said:
First of all, Cameron agreed to be on the show and have these things tested. Whining over the results afterwards in the press is just low. Even if he did call them out on it face to face, or even via email or something after having a few days to think it over, calling them outright "full of sh**" in public like that...? There's no way I can respect that and he just made sure he's never going to make another buck off of me, that's for certain!
Second of all, his script might have said Jack had to die, but the point of the test was never to change the script. The point was to figure out whether Jack - in a real life situation - really wouldn't have had any other options. Turns out he would, whether Cameron likes it or not. And his argument about the freezing water and how tying the vests onto the door would take 5-10 minutes? Utter crap! All Jack and rose would have had to do was push the vests under the door, get the strings up onto it on either side and then hold on to them or possibly even tie them to their arms and legs. What Jamie and Adam did was just one way of solving the problem, but Cameron is obviously too in love with his own work to want to think that way.
In the immortal words of the Hyneman, "You big baby. Go get a cookie or something and stop whining."
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Post by ponytail61 on Jan 31, 2017 23:26:46 GMT
So he waits nearly 5 years? I guess there was something in his contract with Disco at the time that kept him from airing his grievances immediately. Or he just needed some publicity for his upcoming movie.
Are they really up to Avatar 5? I didn't even know they made a second one.
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 31, 2017 23:50:24 GMT
So he waits nearly 5 years? I guess there was something in his contract with Disco at the time that kept him from airing his grievances immediately. Or he just needed some publicity for his upcoming movie. Are they really up to Avatar 5? I didn't even know they made a second one. I think you're right about the timing. He wants the publicity. Avatar 2 hasn't been released yet and he's talking 5? Wishful thinking on his part.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 1, 2017 0:57:30 GMT
If it's just a publicity stunt, publicly slamming others for something they did 5 years ago that has nothing to do with what you're promoting now is even more deplorable!
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 1, 2017 1:32:13 GMT
If it's just a publicity stunt, publicly slamming others for something they did 5 years ago that has nothing to do with what you're promoting now is even more deplorable! Deplorable and Hollywood are synonyms. That is until nope trademarked the term.
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Post by the light works on Feb 1, 2017 2:42:52 GMT
I see GTCGreg beat me to posting the rest of the article, so that part has now been edited out of my post and I'll just leave my comment on what Cameron said: First of all, Cameron agreed to be on the show and have these things tested. Whining over the results afterwards in the press is just low. Even if he did call them out on it face to face, or even via email or something after having a few days to think it over, calling them outright "full of sh**" in public like that...? There's no way I can respect that and he just made sure he's never going to make another buck off of me, that's for certain! Second of all, his script might have said Jack had to die, but the point of the test was never to change the script. The point was to figure out whether Jack - in a real life situation - really wouldn't have had any other options. Turns out he would, whether Cameron likes it or not. And his argument about the freezing water and how tying the vests onto the door would take 5-10 minutes? Utter crap! All Jack and rose would have had to do was push the vests under the door, get the strings up onto it on either side and then hold on to them or possibly even tie them to their arms and legs. What Jamie and Adam did was just one way of solving the problem, but Cameron is obviously too in love with his own work to want to think that way. In the immortal words of the Hyneman, "You big baby. Go get a cookie or something and stop whining." fact of the matter is, the piece of wood they were on was made oversized just to get it to float under ONE person. I'm inclined to agree that this seems to be an attention grab.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 1, 2017 7:11:56 GMT
People died in case going underwater before MB's Proved they could escape. Jack Died, now we know he could have survived. Doesnt change history, but MB's could possibly change the future... Cameron?.. get over yourself, stick to making movies, your crap at science.
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Post by the light works on Feb 1, 2017 14:59:24 GMT
People died in case going underwater before MB's Proved they could escape. Jack Died, now we know he could have survived. Doesnt change history, but MB's could possibly change the future... Cameron?.. get over yourself, stick to making movies, your crap at science. and since cameron's movies ain't history, anyway... but beyond that,he could have pointed out that Adam and Jamie had the leisure to problem solve, while Jack and Rose were under a bit more pressure; or that such is the power of cognitive bias; or any of a host of other reasons why Jack died - the primary, of course, still being that he wanted jack to die so all the girls in the audience would have an excuse to cry and say how selfless he was. despite the fact that, objectively speaking, he was a bit of a selfish twit. oh, yeah, my point being, I agree, Cameron needs to get over himself.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 1, 2017 20:27:14 GMT
People died in case going underwater before MB's Proved they could escape. Jack Died, now we know he could have survived. Doesnt change history, but MB's could possibly change the future... Cameron?.. get over yourself, stick to making movies, your crap at science. and since cameron's movies ain't history, anyway... but beyond that,he could have pointed out that Adam and Jamie had the leisure to problem solve, while Jack and Rose were under a bit more pressure; or that such is the power of cognitive bias; or any of a host of other reasons why Jack died - the primary, of course, still being that he wanted jack to die so all the girls in the audience would have an excuse to cry and say how selfless he was. despite the fact that, objectively speaking, he was a bit of a selfish twit. oh, yeah, my point being, I agree, Cameron needs to get over himself. He could have just said, "Jack ain't that smart" and let that be the end of it.
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2017 0:01:27 GMT
and since cameron's movies ain't history, anyway... but beyond that,he could have pointed out that Adam and Jamie had the leisure to problem solve, while Jack and Rose were under a bit more pressure; or that such is the power of cognitive bias; or any of a host of other reasons why Jack died - the primary, of course, still being that he wanted jack to die so all the girls in the audience would have an excuse to cry and say how selfless he was. despite the fact that, objectively speaking, he was a bit of a selfish twit. oh, yeah, my point being, I agree, Cameron needs to get over himself. He could have just said, "Jack ain't that smart" and let that be the end of it. yes, he could have.
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