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Post by silverdragon on Feb 2, 2015 7:06:51 GMT
Can a school demand your Facebook or Twitter login? NO! Not without good cause to believe that something against the law has been done.... Bog Off..... and that is go away, GTF, dont even try?.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-31033024Just to be clear..... To start, there is no law against asking. But the IS law against being demanded into or being bullied into Giving. It is against terms of service to share login details for many sites. I expect even this one.... Inform your child that there is NO DAMN WAY they are EVER to give up login details to anyone. As for you.... If the school contacts you, DO NOT in any way give up the details. Until your child is "Charged" with something. Even then, do NOT give them over the phone, it must be "Face to face". And check your rights..... Now, if your child is charged with Cyber Bullying, or miss-use of their twit account, its serious right. Do not hinder any legal investigation. Just dont hand over details just because someone thinks they can....
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Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2015 12:14:32 GMT
my understanding is that the school can access the portion of the account where any evidence of bullying would be, without the login information.
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Post by kharnynb on Feb 2, 2015 15:35:35 GMT
I agree that schools should stay the heck away from any social media on principle, outside of legal matters. Personally i think schools shouldn't even have a farcebook or twatter account.
I recently blasted a teacher for requiring students to have a google drive login for sending in homework. She concidered it easier than using the school it-department approved nas and email systems..... One of these days there's going to be a very nasty consequence due to all these privacy leaks, and i want to be very far away from it....
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 2, 2015 16:31:34 GMT
Any postings on Facebook or Twitter they need to see, they can already see without an individual's login password. No way should anyone be required to give out that information either to governmental agencies (schools), employers or future employers. Requiring you to give it out is an invasion of your privacy. You wouldn't give a school the keys to your house so they could inspect your kid's room. That would require a search warrant and so should access to anyone's social media account private areas.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 3, 2015 7:55:52 GMT
Exactly... they can see evidence that they want from the front page. Thats the end of it. After that, they need to involve parents. If they need to identify a troll, they need to ask the ISP, not the parent. Not all parents are aware of all the accounts each individual child holds.... I know what my kids have, because they trust me with the security.
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 5, 2015 0:36:26 GMT
One more reason why I am not letting my kids have Facebook/twitter/etc. accounts until they can legally drink.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 7:38:48 GMT
One reason why the fakebook and twitter accounts of this household have been under close scrutiny since they were allowed one... Well. Fakebook anyway. None of my kids have shown the slightest inclination to have an IQ low enough to twit.
My kids have been educated in "Once its out there, there are no take-backs" rules, and I have been quite pleasantly surprised by their intelligent approach to "On this occasion the old man is right", and they have been absolutely brilliant about keeping secrets safe. Secrets like their identity details, home address, phone numbers, the important stuff.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 10:41:46 GMT
I just had a conversation with one of the kids, he is off college today as they are doing Attainment Reviews (whut?..) This Week, They were required to update their personal details. They put in "No change", and submitted. It was returned, with a request to submit Face-book and other social media details..... They refused. When asked why, they quoted the above story, and refused to pass on any personal details that they felt the College had no need to know. When also asked why they did not submit my Work details, MY work... "We may need to contact you Dad at work" So my Kid answers Good luck, My Dad is a HGV Driver, sure as hell he wants you bothering him at the wheel of a 40 tonner of explosive fuel?.... This may develop more.
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Post by the light works on Feb 5, 2015 15:16:19 GMT
I just had a conversation with one of the kids, he is off college today as they are doing Attainment Reviews (whut?..) This Week, They were required to update their personal details. They put in "No change", and submitted. It was returned, with a request to submit Face-book and other social media details..... They refused. When asked why, they quoted the above story, and refused to pass on any personal details that they felt the College had no need to know. When also asked why they did not submit my Work details, MY work... "We may need to contact you Dad at work" So my Kid answers Good luck, My Dad is a HGV Driver, sure as hell he wants you bothering him at the wheel of a 40 tonner of explosive fuel?.... This may develop more. This is nothing new. when I was a kid, the school always wanted a second phone number to contact my parents. they could not wrap their brains around the fact that if they could not get my parents at their home/work phone number (the same number) nobody else would be able to find them, either.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 19, 2015 18:17:42 GMT
One reason why the fakebook and twitter accounts of this household have been under close scrutiny since they were allowed one... Well. Fakebook anyway. None of my kids have shown the slightest inclination to have an IQ low enough to twit. My kids have been educated in "Once its out there, there are no take-backs" rules, and I have been quite pleasantly surprised by their intelligent approach to "On this occasion the old man is right", and they have been absolutely brilliant about keeping secrets safe. Secrets like their identity details, home address, phone numbers, the important stuff. Hope your kids aren't using Fakebook on their phones then. If they are, Fakebook will know all that by now, no matter how careful they are. Not that it'll be public, but the info will be obtainable by anyone ready to pay Fakebook what it costs to get it.
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