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Post by the light works on Aug 7, 2016 20:59:21 GMT
the guy just had a voice that i could only endure for 5 minutes. I watched the first episode up to the point where he introduced matt leblanc and then when he just kept on droning in that high whiney voice, I gave up. I made it to where he was explaining the first activity. I haven't heard him in anything else, and I don't really plan to. it sounded an awful lot to me like he was trying to imitate Clarkson's delivery. |
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 8, 2016 7:54:50 GMT
He was.
But Clarkson never really shouted that much?..
Clarkson could get annoyed and deliver the lines in that "Quiet reserved way" that is known to be trademark British, if he got loud, it was well known he was very angry, and could be heard half a hotel away over a steak dinner.
Or even over a missing steak dinner.....
But Clarkson didnt need to be that loud... he had the delivery when he knew just the right time to come in when the audience stopped laughing at the last joke to deliver the next line.
I am not saying Clarkson was a quiet voice, just he didnt need to machine-gun the audience with one liners at high speed and very loud to make his point?.. and the laughs came naturally from the audience, they didnt need "Ijurt" boards to prompt them to laugh, nor did they need canned laughter...
In a way, I Like Clarkson, he has a way of saying things that sound reasonable, even when they are plainly absurd on second thought, but he can make his idiot buffoonery look natural.
He knows he is preforming to get the laugh, and makes it look natural.
In a way, I think he would be quite good at "Standup", in the same way as Ronnie Barker, or even Eric Morecambe.
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Post by the light works on Aug 8, 2016 14:16:42 GMT
He was. But Clarkson never really shouted that much?.. Clarkson could get annoyed and deliver the lines in that "Quiet reserved way" that is known to be trademark British, if he got loud, it was well known he was very angry, and could be heard half a hotel away over a steak dinner. Or even over a missing steak dinner..... But Clarkson didnt need to be that loud... he had the delivery when he knew just the right time to come in when the audience stopped laughing at the last joke to deliver the next line. I am not saying Clarkson was a quiet voice, just he didnt need to machine-gun the audience with one liners at high speed and very loud to make his point?.. and the laughs came naturally from the audience, they didnt need "Ijurt" boards to prompt them to laugh, nor did they need canned laughter... In a way, I Like Clarkson, he has a way of saying things that sound reasonable, even when they are plainly absurd on second thought, but he can make his idiot buffoonery look natural. He knows he is preforming to get the laugh, and makes it look natural. In a way, I think he would be quite good at "Standup", in the same way as Ronnie Barker, or even Eric Morecambe. Clarkson has a strong voice. he projects well. the ginger whinger thinks that means yelling. |
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Post by the light works on Oct 2, 2016 0:43:52 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 19, 2016 12:46:23 GMT
Get it whilst its fresh... not a very good copy, but, whilst its still there, its sort of viewable?...
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 20, 2016 10:06:17 GMT
On the watching of above.
Yes it was about cars....
To say it has none of the BBC "Political Correct-ness" of previous BBC flops?... well, thats like saying its a program made by the Top Gear team without safety nets of "Trigger warnings"..
For instance, the new "test track".
No Run-off areas, no safety nets, get it wrong, you have a cage of electricity [sub-station] and trees, fences, and a field of unsuspecting sheep.
Mike Skinner, ex Nascar driver, is their new replacement for the Stig.....
"Three litres six cylinders this thing wouldnt pull a greasy string out of a dogs (backside)"
Yeah, he "talks", which is new for a tame racing driver on a Top Gear show.
Why do I keep calling this "The new top gear"?...
Because it is.
It may have changed its name, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a bloody goose?.. no, its a DUCK, and this is the new Top Gear...
Dont be fooled, this IS what Top Gear should be.
Forget that thing on BBC at the moment that is an "All new" with Matt-le-blank and not the ginger whinger because he resigned after bad reviews called him out as a failure, this is the world famous team of three back in the saddle doing what they do best.
And the producer is Andy Williams.
You know, the "Old" producer of TG and "Best mate since school" of Jeremy.
Will I watch the next one?.. yes.
And so should you.
Because TV like that cant be "made" from throwing a bunch of celebs together and hoping they will work, nor an it be resurrected after the main talent leaves, nor can it be "Confiscated" by complicated copywrite by a company that is too big for its boots, nor can that company prevent it being made by legal wranglings...
Its organic.
It can only exist on the quite exotic plateau inhabited by one ageing slightly overweight balding tall guy, one short guy who's teeth have Not been whitened and a captain slow who just got booked for speeding doing 37mph.
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Post by the light works on Nov 20, 2016 15:39:40 GMT
On the watching of above. Yes it was about cars.... To say it has none of the BBC "Political Correct-ness" of previous BBC flops?... well, thats like saying its a program made by the Top Gear team without safety nets of "Trigger warnings".. For instance, the new "test track". No Run-off areas, no safety nets, get it wrong, you have a cage of electricity [sub-station] and trees, fences, and a field of unsuspecting sheep. Mike Skinner, ex Nascar driver, is their new replacement for the Stig..... "Three litres six cylinders this thing wouldnt pull a greasy string out of a dogs (backside)" Yeah, he "talks", which is new for a tame racing driver on a Top Gear show. Why do I keep calling this "The new top gear"?... Because it is. It may have changed its name, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a bloody goose?.. no, its a DUCK, and this is the new Top Gear... Dont be fooled, this IS what Top Gear should be. Forget that thing on BBC at the moment that is an "All new" with Matt-le-blank and not the ginger whinger because he resigned after bad reviews called him out as a failure, this is the world famous team of three back in the saddle doing what they do best. And the producer is Andy Williams. You know, the "Old" producer of TG and "Best mate since school" of Jeremy. Will I watch the next one?.. yes. And so should you. Because TV like that cant be "made" from throwing a bunch of celebs together and hoping they will work, nor an it be resurrected after the main talent leaves, nor can it be "Confiscated" by complicated copywrite by a company that is too big for its boots, nor can that company prevent it being made by legal wranglings... Its organic. It can only exist on the quite exotic plateau inhabited by one ageing slightly overweight balding tall guy, one short guy who's teeth have Not been whitened and a captain slow who just got booked for speeding doing 37mph. I was wondering if the whinger committee show had suffered an early demise. I will have to be adding this to me duty shift viewing roster. |
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Post by kharnynb on Nov 22, 2016 16:17:10 GMT
definately fun, but i thought the celebrity part was a bit of a dead duck.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 22, 2016 17:06:14 GMT
definately fun, but i thought the celebrity part was a bit of a dead duck. ....and not one sign of a Norwegian blue either?.. But definitely dead, I know whats dead, and that was definitely dead. [you may have to watch it to understand that bit?...] |
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Post by alabastersandman on Apr 13, 2017 0:13:48 GMT
Gotta love Amazon Prime, can watch Top Gear or The Grand Tour anytime and as often as one likes, don't have to wait for TV schedules. There is also so much other content that subscribers will never run out of things to watch. Still hang on to basic cable though, unfortunately Fire TV is no substitute for live TV
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Post by the light works on Apr 13, 2017 4:17:26 GMT
Gotta love Amazon Prime, can watch Top Gear or The Grand Tour anytime and as often as one likes, don't have to wait for TV schedules. There is also so much other content that subscribers will never run out of things to watch. Still hang on to basic cable though, unfortunately Fire TV is no substitute for live TV I will have to look up the grand tour. |
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Post by the light works on Jul 28, 2017 3:45:11 GMT
BBCAmerica is premiering a new Top Gear America series Sunday afternoon.
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Post by the light works on Jul 31, 2017 0:48:56 GMT
so: hosts are william fichtner, who has been in some movies and TV shows; Antron Brown, who is known for driving 300 MPH in a straight line for a quarter mile at a time, and Tom "wookie" Ford, who talks slightly like Jeremy Clarkson.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 31, 2017 8:56:50 GMT
I have to admit, I "Tried" to watch the Top-Gear America series. For those that did not see the BBC UK version, maybe you will enjoy. For those that did, you can be assured, all the scripts, yes, scripts, scripted jokes, are re-hashed sanitised for the country of destination versions of old BBC UK top gear. Some like to be spoon fed their humour. I like the way the real TG crew of Clarkson, May, hamster Hammond, queued up a joke, allowed you to think "No they wouldnt dare do that", and then delivered the punchline in either "Oh yes we can" or a "You weren't expecting that now were you" way, played fast and loose with the BBC rules, bent a few of them out of shape to create a pan stand on a fire of old rule books, and repeatedly cocked a snoop at the bosses, queue the line from Clarkson, "What are they going to do, fire me?.. " whilst hosting another show, "Have I Got News For You" source www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11908232/clarkson-controversial-have-i-got-news-for-you-bbc.htmlDid they just get a blank cheque from the BBC in that the TG show was seen as a comedy series anyway, almost a cross between a car show and stand up, or sit down when doing the lines to camera whilst driving. Was this no more than a soap with cars?. Was this a sit-com derived from a car show?. Who knew... Well, to be truthful, we all knew, and thats why we kinda likes it that way. We knew that of they "Told it like it is" and paid no respect to "Rules", call a spade a spade and a cr@p car a CR@P car, then when it came to the Cr@p cars, we would be told straight "Dont buy this heap of junk". I found out they did not lie, because they slated a particular car, and I had the misfortune to drive a van derived from that car, light van, about six months after the show went to air... and it was as cr@p as they warned me it would be. I honestly did not go looking for faults, they found their way to the consciousness all by themself, its just I agreed with every word they said after about half an hour all of my own accord. The American show... "Sanitised". It seems that for instance they will not say a bad word about "Ford" without checking their lawyers first?. Remove/swap out/replace ford for any other car manufacturer there as required... Here, I can deliver the line "I do not trust Renault engines as far as I can throw them" and be honest. I can say this in the experienced knowledge that every one I have ever driven has at some point in its life given up without warning expensively and extensively at the side of a road when you expect it least... I have to caveat here that the Truck Engines they build have a better record of reliability, I do not mind the BIG stuff, but the light sub 3ltre van and car engines, they have serious reliability problems, and that goes the same for the vehicle attached to them. I dont think I would be allowed to say that on the American TG show without absolute "On camera" proof... I do not believe I could get away with even joking about the legality of hiring "XYZ" as the minister for transport. TG America has absolutely GOT to be "Factual", no jokes, just facts. I trust that you will watch what you can and come back to me to tell me if things have changed and it is watchable now?. Thats anyone that side of the pond reading this, not just the light works, who I am almost certain will have something to add to this?. I am awaiting the reply eagerly?.. |
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Post by the light works on Jul 31, 2017 13:39:36 GMT
well, different batch of hosts, and a different dynamic between them (hence the change from top gear US to Top Gear America) but it immediately was more watchable than the top gear reboot you got stuck with. they haven't had a bad car, yet - episode one featured the Acura NSX and the Ford Raptor, which they gushed about. their introduction of the stig was about as tepid as it gets, and their commentary on his track run was only somewhat better.
as for Ford - I haven't really driven a Ford with less than 6 wheels that I truly found enjoyable to drive. and even some of those I had questions about the corners that got cut to make it cheap enough to appeal to people.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 1, 2017 13:13:36 GMT
Fix Or Repair Daily, Ford I used to love the Escort  Mk1 or  Mk 3 And would happily have driven either until the wheels fell off... Which wasnt that unusual by the way, especially if you took a corner too hard and hadn't got better wheel nuts than supplied, which were notorious for snapping if you torked 'em up too hard. However, it all went ship-shaped about to sinkin the late 80's and early 90's when the Dagenham dustbin Ford Cortina went through its final shakes of life before it was discontinued... [-font equals sarcasm overdrive]for being a truly awful car built by idiots who were more intent on skipping work that actually building anything.Light the blue touchpaper and retire to a safe distance... I know that will anger the faint of sensibilities?.. There was a lot of problems with Unions that were a mix of six of one half a dozen of the other, but when someone is asked to switch a light on and "I cant do that its an Electricians job", you know you are in a world of stupidity. The build quality went down and pieces started falling off. Bwittish Lay- down-land started to go the same way, and people on the night shift started bringing their beds with them, and the British car making industry went base>over<apex, and I found Toyota makes cars that just, like James May, go on and on and on and on and on.... The later Ford cars were rep-mobiles, and although you say the TG America "Gushed" about the raptor, TG UK did as well, "As long as you accept that they are built cheaply the do exactly what you expect". If I had kept my Escort Mk3 diesel, I expect the engine may well have still been running, in truth, I expect it still is, because when sold for scrap the buyer intended to put that in a boat, but the body shell was starting to rust badly. For comparison, the car I have now is as old as that one was when I had it, but as for rust, I have a few spits of stone chips on the bonnet that need addressing, but other than that, its still "Good as reasonable for a second hand", pretty much, zero rust where its going to be a problem?.. |
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Post by the light works on Aug 1, 2017 13:54:31 GMT
Fix Or Repair Daily, Ford I used to love the Escort Mk1 or Mk 3 And would happily have driven either until the wheels fell off... Which wasnt that unusual by the way, especially if you took a corner too hard and hadn't got better wheel nuts than supplied, which were notorious for snapping if you torked 'em up too hard. However, it all went ship-shaped about to sinkin the late 80's and early 90's when the Dagenham dustbin Ford Cortina went through its final shakes of life before it was discontinued... [-font equals sarcasm overdrive]for being a truly awful car built by idiots who were more intent on skipping work that actually building anything.Light the blue touchpaper and retire to a safe distance... I know that will anger the faint of sensibilities?.. There was a lot of problems with Unions that were a mix of six of one half a dozen of the other, but when someone is asked to switch a light on and "I cant do that its an Electricians job", you know you are in a world of stupidity. The build quality went down and pieces started falling off. Bwittish Lay- down-land started to go the same way, and people on the night shift started bringing their beds with them, and the British car making industry went base>over<apex, and I found Toyota makes cars that just, like James May, go on and on and on and on and on.... The later Ford cars were rep-mobiles, and although you say the TG America "Gushed" about the raptor, TG UK did as well, "As long as you accept that they are built cheaply the do exactly what you expect". If I had kept my Escort Mk3 diesel, I expect the engine may well have still been running, in truth, I expect it still is, because when sold for scrap the buyer intended to put that in a boat, but the body shell was starting to rust badly. For comparison, the car I have now is as old as that one was when I had it, but as for rust, I have a few spits of stone chips on the bonnet that need addressing, but other than that, its still "Good as reasonable for a second hand", pretty much, zero rust where its going to be a problem?.. and as I said previously, our escort started at 1981. the consumer reports buyer's guide quite literally said, "there are too many recalls on the 1981 model to list" and then proceeded to fill a full trade paperback sized page with recalls on the 1982 model. as I recall, the car weighed 2500 pounds and had a 1.8 liter 4 cylinder cast iron engine with aluminum heads - something like 92 BHP, as I recall. it was designed when the US concept of building an economical car was to remove a bunch of the air from in between the bumpers and cut the engine in half. I do not know of a single escort of that era that did not suffer an ignoble end. they were basically what Ford built to replace the pinto, after they couldn't escape its reputation for exploding. - and as long as you didn't push them too hard, they actually lasted half of forever. one of my college roomies knew an elderly couple who had driven their pinto around town for over a decade, and it didn't even have enough engine wear to discolor the oil. - but it also never got above 40 MPH. |
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Post by the light works on Aug 7, 2017 1:29:36 GMT
okay, Top Gear America episode two featured TWO of the absolute coolest cars I have seen on ANY top gear episode from ANYWHERE.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 26, 2018 8:33:04 GMT
So Top Gear has returned for a new series...
Starting with a "Homage" to the V8 engine, with one American Mustang, new, Shelby cobra and Hennesy badges, 800bhp+, and two Brit cars, a new Jag, and a new baby McLaren, doing a romp across part of America.
Guess who won?.
Nope, NOT the Mustang.
However, there was a brief interlude with "Chain car" figure 8 racing, three cars, chained one after the other, the middle car just a shell, the front towing all three, and brakes with the driver steering{?} the rear car... is this a "thing" in 'Mmerica now?.
They did have a stig, driving an original ford GT40, that set an impressive lap time, even though they are 1960's era Lola conversions with a lot of UK input.
The stig?. Must have smuggled him across borders, he is illegal in 46 states at the current time, and some say he drinks his milk through his shoelaces, whilst we all know if he had been asked about Snapchat updates, he would have devalued the whole company all the way to a gallon of diesel.
There is a guest appearance from a famous USA stunt driver, Ken Block, and Sabine makes a welcome appearance as the lead driver in the chain car tow.
In all, silly as its supposed to be, entertaining, funny, educational if you are a petrol head, and very welcome, now that the ginger whinger has left, they seam to be developing nicely as a team.
Unfortunately, Eddie Jordan will be back in the series.
I dont know why.
He is about as welcome as passing wind in a lift...
Just wrong on so many levels.
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Post by the light works on Feb 27, 2018 3:02:04 GMT
So Top Gear has returned for a new series... Starting with a "Homage" to the V8 engine, with one American Mustang, new, Shelby cobra and Hennesy badges, 800bhp+, and two Brit cars, a new Jag, and a new baby McLaren, doing a romp across part of America. Guess who won?. Nope, NOT the Mustang. However, there was a brief interlude with "Chain car" figure 8 racing, three cars, chained one after the other, the middle car just a shell, the front towing all three, and brakes with the driver steering{?} the rear car... is this a "thing" in 'Mmerica now?. They did have a stig, driving an original ford GT40, that set an impressive lap time, even though they are 1960's era Lola conversions with a lot of UK input. The stig?. Must have smuggled him across borders, he is illegal in 46 states at the current time, and some say he drinks his milk through his shoelaces, whilst we all know if he had been asked about Snapchat updates, he would have devalued the whole company all the way to a gallon of diesel. There is a guest appearance from a famous USA stunt driver, Ken Block, and Sabine makes a welcome appearance as the lead driver in the chain car tow. In all, silly as its supposed to be, entertaining, funny, educational if you are a petrol head, and very welcome, now that the ginger whinger has left, they seam to be developing nicely as a team. Unfortunately, Eddie Jordan will be back in the series. I dont know why. He is about as welcome as passing wind in a lift... Just wrong on so many levels. would that be your pale imitation of top gear, or ours? yes, small towns in 'murica take pride in coming up with absolutely silly motor sports. one town in Washington has an annual demolition derby with combine harvesters. there is a town in or near florida that has a modified circle track race held under 3-6 feet of water. it actually looks kind of fun. |
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