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Post by Lokifan on Nov 5, 2015 16:44:29 GMT
Sitting around at home with my back injury at the moment, I frequently forget to log out for 48 hours straight... Due to the complex nature of my browser, I often do not log out at all, and the machine just goes into "Hibernation" when I am away from it [ thats the [start][ u][h] shortcut on keyboard...]... And as for psychoanalyse, I had one of them when I got joinded up to the fly mob.... "Too sane to be psychoanalysed" ..... Not sure how to take that, but we spent more time laughing than me getting me head shrunk?... And anyway, after a tour of 9 years, that kind of invalidated that statement... I personally believe that the sane/insane thing is not a binary choice, or even positions on a spectrum. I envision more of a infinite multidimensional graph with sanity and insanity spiking off in every direction in countless areas. You can be perfectly sane in many directions, but sooner or later, some axes are going to be "nuts". Of course, this in itself probably isn't sane.
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Post by the light works on Nov 5, 2015 16:48:04 GMT
Due to the complex nature of my browser, I often do not log out at all, and the machine just goes into "Hibernation" when I am away from it [ thats the [start][ u][h] shortcut on keyboard...]... And as for psychoanalyse, I had one of them when I got joinded up to the fly mob.... "Too sane to be psychoanalysed" ..... Not sure how to take that, but we spent more time laughing than me getting me head shrunk?... And anyway, after a tour of 9 years, that kind of invalidated that statement... I personally believe that the sane/insane thing is not a binary choice, or even positions on a spectrum. I envision more of a infinite multidimensional graph with sanity and insanity spiking off in every direction in countless areas. You can be perfectly sane in many directions, but sooner or later, some axes are going to be "nuts". Of course, this in itself probably isn't sane. nothing else in the universe is linear, why should sanity be?
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Nov 5, 2015 16:56:59 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Nov 5, 2015 17:00:22 GMT
Due to the complex nature of my browser, I often do not log out at all, and the machine just goes into "Hibernation" when I am away from it [ thats the [start][ u][h] shortcut on keyboard...]... And as for psychoanalyse, I had one of them when I got joinded up to the fly mob.... "Too sane to be psychoanalysed" ..... Not sure how to take that, but we spent more time laughing than me getting me head shrunk?... And anyway, after a tour of 9 years, that kind of invalidated that statement... I personally believe that the sane/insane thing is not a binary choice, or even positions on a spectrum. I envision more of a infinite multidimensional graph with sanity and insanity spiking off in every direction in countless areas. You can be perfectly sane in many directions, but sooner or later, some axes are going to be "nuts". Of course, this in itself probably isn't sane. A veritable Starbucks menu of mental health...I'll take a half-sane double-crazy with a shot of psychosis...
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 6, 2015 14:26:56 GMT
I personally believe that the sane/insane thing is not a binary choice, or even positions on a spectrum. I envision more of a infinite multidimensional graph with sanity and insanity spiking off in every direction in countless areas. You can be perfectly sane in many directions, but sooner or later, some axes are going to be "nuts". Of course, this in itself probably isn't sane. A veritable Starbucks menu of mental health...I'll take a half-sane double-crazy with a shot of psychosis... Don't forget your Snickers bar. Gotta load up on nuts
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Nov 6, 2015 14:29:34 GMT
A veritable Starbucks menu of mental health...I'll take a half-sane double-crazy with a shot of psychosis... Don't forget your Snickers bar. Gotta load up on nuts You are what you eat??
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 6, 2015 14:36:27 GMT
Don't forget your Snickers bar. Gotta load up on nuts You are what you eat?? That one's going straight to the "Stupid idioms" thread, because it's just not true. I've been eating wealthy widows for years, but I'm neither rich nor alone to enjoy it
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Post by Cybermortis on Nov 6, 2015 18:30:38 GMT
*Minor update/alteration*;
The entirety of Mythbusters will be aired back to back in December in the run up to the last season, as I noted.
However those of you who are interested in and capable of catching this should be advised that this marathon will be on the Science Channel NOT Discovery Channel.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Nov 6, 2015 19:32:35 GMT
*Minor update/alteration*; The entirety of Mythbusters will be aired back to back in December in the run up to the last season, as I noted. However those of you who are interested in and capable of catching this should be advised that this marathon will be on the Science Channel NOT Discovery Channel. I'll have to clear out my DVR beforehand...1000 hour limit should be enough...
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Nov 7, 2015 1:55:07 GMT
I'll take the insanity of this place over the stupidity of the general population everyday...and twice on Sundays. Ditto!
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Nov 7, 2015 2:00:11 GMT
Does that mean to conduct ESM "corrective actions" on him? We can't let the sane running loose around here... Why not? Whenever the rest of you do something that someone else finds crazy, all you have to do is go, "Our certified sane person hasn't raised any red flags yet, so we can't be too far off the mark." Oh Well Played!
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Nov 7, 2015 2:18:23 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved. I loved how they also showed it's ok to be a so called 'nerd' & how they made that title something to be proud of rather than just a cruel school yard taunt. But even more that that I love how they showed that even girls can be involved in science & still be considered to be quote/un-quote 'girly'. What I mean by that is traditionally women/girls who have a 'scientific' bent/mind (ie: are interested or are involved in science) have in the past (& to a certain extent still are) portrayed as unattractive & socially inadequate. Where as the so called Kardashian wanta be's 'pretty' girls who aren't interested in being smart are considered to be far more 'attractive/desirable' to men. You just have to look at the girls on The Big Bang Theory to see how this negative stereotype is reinforced by popular culture. By having Kari involved with the show they showed that it's ok for a girl to have BOTH beauty & brains in equal measures. I hate to sound all feminist here but Mythbusters has over it's 14 year tenure helped improve societies image of women & changed how we look at them as far as negative gender stereotypes are concerned. If I ever have a daughter I'd MUCH rather have her look up to/see Kari Byron as a role model that Kim Kardashian! *Lex hops of her soap box*
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Post by the light works on Nov 7, 2015 2:22:47 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved. I loved how they also showed it's ok to be a so called 'nerd' & how they made that title something to be proud of rather than just a cruel school yard taunt. But even more that that I love how they showed that even girls can be involved in science & still be considered to be quote/un-quote 'girly'. What I mean by that is traditionally women/girls who have a 'scientific' bent/mind (ie: are interested or are involved in science) have in the past (& to a certain extent still are) portrayed as unattractive & socially inadequate. Where as the so called Kardashian wanta be's 'pretty' girls who aren't interested in being smart are considered to be far more 'attractive/desirable' to men. You just have to look at the girls on The Big Bang Theory to see how this negative stereotype is reinforced by popular culture. By having Kari involved with the show they showed that it's ok for a girl to have BOTH beauty & brains in equal measures. I hate to sound all feminist here but Mythbusters has over it's 14 year tenure helped improve societies image of women & changed how we look at them as far as negative gender stereotypes are concerned. If I ever have a daughter I'd MUCH rather have her look up to/see Kari Byron as a role model that Kim Kardashian! *Lex hops of her soap box*the frightening thing is that there are people in the world who would choose the opposite.
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Post by ironhold on Nov 7, 2015 3:02:24 GMT
*Minor update/alteration*; The entirety of Mythbusters will be aired back to back in December in the run up to the last season, as I noted. However those of you who are interested in and capable of catching this should be advised that this marathon will be on the Science Channel NOT Discovery Channel. Will this include the Mega Movie Myth special and the Young Scientists special?
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Post by Lokifan on Nov 7, 2015 6:47:01 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved. I loved how they also showed it's ok to be a so called 'nerd' & how they made that title something to be proud of rather than just a cruel school yard taunt. But even more that that I love how they showed that even girls can be involved in science & still be considered to be quote/un-quote 'girly'. What I mean by that is traditionally women/girls who have a 'scientific' bent/mind (ie: are interested or are involved in science) have in the past (& to a certain extent still are) portrayed as unattractive & socially inadequate. Where as the so called Kardashian wanta be's 'pretty' girls who aren't interested in being smart are considered to be far more 'attractive/desirable' to men. You just have to look at the girls on The Big Bang Theory to see how this negative stereotype is reinforced by popular culture. By having Kari involved with the show they showed that it's ok for a girl to have BOTH beauty & brains in equal measures. I hate to sound all feminist here but Mythbusters has over it's 14 year tenure helped improve societies image of women & changed how we look at them as far as negative gender stereotypes are concerned. If I ever have a daughter I'd MUCH rather have her look up to/see Kari Byron as a role model that Kim Kardashian! *Lex hops of her soap box*The story of two little girls: I have a 4 year old honorary niece. She loves Disney princesses, cute animals, and absurdly saccharine Strawberry Shortcake cartoons. But...she really likes to take things apart and see how things work. If she follows in Kari's footsteps, I personally will be utterly delighted. My wife's goddaughter just turned 14. Yes, another honorary niece. We've been sending her Mythbuster's DVDs for years. She loves them. We even managed to send her a few of the MB's project kits when she was younger. Now, she is a pretty good artist but also wants to be a marine biologist when she grows up. She's a smart kid, and the only thing that really irritates her seems to be if someone suggests she can't do something because she's a girl. Did the MBs make her this way? I don't know, but I'd like to think they helped.
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Post by OziRiS on Nov 7, 2015 11:11:54 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved. I loved how they also showed it's ok to be a so called 'nerd' & how they made that title something to be proud of rather than just a cruel school yard taunt. But even more that that I love how they showed that even girls can be involved in science & still be considered to be quote/un-quote 'girly'. What I mean by that is traditionally women/girls who have a 'scientific' bent/mind (ie: are interested or are involved in science) have in the past (& to a certain extent still are) portrayed as unattractive & socially inadequate. Where as the so called Kardashian wanta be's 'pretty' girls who aren't interested in being smart are considered to be far more 'attractive/desirable' to men. You just have to look at the girls on The Big Bang Theory to see how this negative stereotype is reinforced by popular culture. By having Kari involved with the show they showed that it's ok for a girl to have BOTH beauty & brains in equal measures. I hate to sound all feminist here but Mythbusters has over it's 14 year tenure helped improve societies image of women & changed how we look at them as far as negative gender stereotypes are concerned. If I ever have a daughter I'd MUCH rather have her look up to/see Kari Byron as a role model that Kim Kardashian! *Lex hops of her soap box*Don't forget Christine Chamberlain and Scottie Chapman from the early seasons. Christine wasn't as much on camera as Scottie was, but I still got the impression of an attractive woman who was not only interested in building stuff and doing science, but was good at it too. And Scottie was just awesome! Fully her own person and completely unapologetic about it. I can't imagine any little girl watching the early episodes and not thinking it's insanely cool that whenever something needed welding or there was work to be done on a car, the guys would step aside and let Scottie handle it. And that speaks volumes about the guys in the cast and crew as well. Age, gender, looks etc. None of it mattered to them. If you're the best person for the job, you're the best person for the job. Scottie was (and probably still is) a car geek and a great welder, so she got the car and welding jobs. I never got the impression that they gave her those tasks because she was a woman and they "needed the diversity", as it's often called. She got those tasks because she was damn good at them and for no other reason and I think that's something fathers watching with their kids should point out. And not just to their sons, either. Yes, there's a need for young men growing up right now to realize that they're not inherently better than girls, but there's also a need to get over this whole misunderstood feminist "you have to give me special treatment because I'm a girl/woman" thing. Girls need to have role models who show them that yes, they can do things that are typically considered "man jobs", but they have to want to do those things well. The fact that they have genes that allow them to grow boobs is not a free pass. If you want to be taken seriously in whatever you do, put in the work needed to become truly good at it and let your work speak for itself.
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Post by Cybermortis on Nov 7, 2015 11:37:46 GMT
*Minor update/alteration*; The entirety of Mythbusters will be aired back to back in December in the run up to the last season, as I noted. However those of you who are interested in and capable of catching this should be advised that this marathon will be on the Science Channel NOT Discovery Channel. Will this include the Mega Movie Myth special and the Young Scientists special? At a guess I'd think so. Young scientists was originally aired on the science channel after all. As far as the ladies who've been in front of the camera keep in mind that all but Jess, who was covering for Kari, were hired by Jamie to work at M5 first and foremost. Like A&J themselves MB was their second job.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 8, 2015 8:39:24 GMT
I will read that article in full at some point.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 8, 2015 8:58:49 GMT
Due to the complex nature of my browser, I often do not log out at all, and the machine just goes into "Hibernation" when I am away from it [ thats the [start][ u][h] shortcut on keyboard...]... And as for psychoanalyse, I had one of them when I got joinded up to the fly mob.... "Too sane to be psychoanalysed" ..... Not sure how to take that, but we spent more time laughing than me getting me head shrunk?... And anyway, after a tour of 9 years, that kind of invalidated that statement... I personally believe that the sane/insane thing is not a binary choice, or even positions on a spectrum. I envision more of a infinite multidimensional graph with sanity and insanity spiking off in every direction in countless areas. You can be perfectly sane in many directions, but sooner or later, some axes are going to be "nuts". Of course, this in itself probably isn't sane. I believe there MUST be a part insanity to even think that there is something no one has tried before. Tell me frank whittle was entirely sane, and I will show you he wasnt?... I have worked in some very different places, and the ratio of sanity goes sideways where the work gets done the best... the more acts of random insanity, the better the moral, and the better the productivity. In high stress area's, you NEED to blow off some steam now and again. So what is or isnt sane?... That depends on the person. And on who is observing them. If you were to witness a typical morning "before shift" on a loading bay, you may wonder just how some of us got a licence... however, if you are one of us, thats just us being normal. Soon as we turn the key, we have to be on duty, and incredibly aware of risks. We let off steam so we start the day with a smile... If you were to witness some of the finest mechanics I have ever known putting in a 30 hr shift getting [xyz] air-worthy because the air-marshal has declared an interest in seeing it fly, then witness the same crew at the bar after the event has finished and they are allowed time off, you may wonder if they are the same people. Humour in Uniform depends on a slight insanity to be funny.... And we all have it. How we let it out, depends on two things. First, is it safe?... here, hawld my beerr, has never EVER ended in anything sane, but, most of us have worked out the injury risk first.... Second, how long on jankers.... Just how MUCH trouble will you get in?. Those who dont consider that, are the ones who are not the right mix of sanity. You may know its wrong, and go ahead anyway, but if you know its so much wrong, even the person holding your beer will suddenly have an alibi elsewhere, and you go ahead anyway, then that is out of order?... And as for those who delight in entertain some people with y-n00b video, well, thats their own fault.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 8, 2015 9:04:46 GMT
Thank you for this article Loki! I think the overall sentiment is that the MBs taught a younger generation to not be afraid to ask "Is that true?" or "Why is it true?". They taught people to not be afraid to have a questioning attitude, which is the basis of science in and of itself - to ask questions, find answers, & then learn the mechanisms involved. I loved how they also showed it's ok to be a so called 'nerd' & how they made that title something to be proud of rather than just a cruel school yard taunt. But even more that that I love how they showed that even girls can be involved in science & still be considered to be quote/un-quote 'girly'. What I mean by that is traditionally women/girls who have a 'scientific' bent/mind (ie: are interested or are involved in science) have in the past (& to a certain extent still are) portrayed as unattractive & socially inadequate. Where as the so called Kardashian wanta be's 'pretty' girls who aren't interested in being smart are considered to be far more 'attractive/desirable' to men. You just have to look at the girls on The Big Bang Theory to see how this negative stereotype is reinforced by popular culture. By having Kari involved with the show they showed that it's ok for a girl to have BOTH beauty & brains in equal measures. I hate to sound all feminist here but Mythbusters has over it's 14 year tenure helped improve societies image of women & changed how we look at them as far as negative gender stereotypes are concerned. If I ever have a daughter I'd MUCH rather have her look up to/see Kari Byron as a role model that Kim Kardashian! *Lex hops of her soap box*If it has brung Women to science, what the hell has been keeping them back for so long?... Can we find that, have it taken out, and shot. I agree, there has been far to long sexism in this matter, and I disagree with it far too much to put into same words... If you have the ability, get involved?... And I am one who has recently been saddened by the news the Susie Wolf has resigned from F1, because the team made it plain that they have no plans to offer her a seat in an actual race. I am really saddened by the apparent sexism in Formula 1.... If they has the skills, they should get the seat. You KNOW the camera will be on them, so why not just for publicity sakes?.. We already know they have the skills. Otherwise, they wouldnt have the licence.
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