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Post by the light works on Apr 23, 2018 16:00:45 GMT
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 23, 2018 17:42:23 GMT
The guy was a bonafide nut job. So should the dad be charged with accessory to murder?
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Post by ironhold on Apr 23, 2018 18:19:52 GMT
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Post by Lokifan on Apr 23, 2018 19:24:56 GMT
The guy was a bonafide nut job. So should the dad be charged with accessory to murder? He may well be depending upon local laws. <snip> The shooter looks like he was pretty much bug-f* crazy. He had previous arrests, not just at the White House. He thought he was being stalked by Taylor Swift. While at the White House, he demanded a meeting with nope, and to inspect the premises. He claimed to be a sovereign citizen (although it's unclear if he is part of any movement). He stole a BMW. He threatened suicide. And those are the highlights... www.cnn.com/2018/04/22/us/travis-reinking-waffle-house-shooting/index.htmlThese are exactly the people that background checks are supposed to catch. Heck, these are exactly the people that loony bins were built for. Another "Lone Wolf" lunatic who wasn't just giving off "signals", but doing everything short of taking out a billboard saying "Stop me I'm nuts!". Police and Secret Service knew about him, but still this happens? No talk about illegal weapons possession, no 5150 psychiatric hold--seriously, this is absurd. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. You can't make this stuff up.
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Post by the light works on Apr 23, 2018 22:54:41 GMT
The guy was a bonafide nut job. So should the dad be charged with accessory to murder? if people missed it, he did get picked up this afternoon. and the dad should be charged with whatever people who provide guns to people who are forbidden to possess guns get charged with.
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Post by the light works on Apr 23, 2018 22:58:15 GMT
He may well be depending upon local laws. <snip> The shooter looks like he was pretty much bug-f* crazy. He had previous arrests, not just at the White House. He thought he was being stalked by Taylor Swift. While at the White House, he demanded a meeting with nope, and to inspect the premises. He claimed to be a sovereign citizen (although it's unclear if he is part of any movement). He stole a BMW. He threatened suicide. And those are the highlights... www.cnn.com/2018/04/22/us/travis-reinking-waffle-house-shooting/index.htmlThese are exactly the people that background checks are supposed to catch. Heck, these are exactly the people that loony bins were built for. Another "Lone Wolf" lunatic who wasn't just giving off "signals", but doing everything short of taking out a billboard saying "Stop me I'm nuts!". Police and Secret Service knew about him, but still this happens? No talk about illegal weapons possession, no 5150 psychiatric hold--seriously, this is absurd. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. You can't make this stuff up. I firmly believe that if people consider themselves not subject to our laws, they are also not subject to our rights. but that may just be my bias because there was one who was making a hobby of menacing a friend of mine with his rifle, and had taken potshots at his home and HAM radio antenna on multiple occasions - and then when the police did coordinate using their cell phones to arrest him for it (he always monitored his scanner); it just happened to be in the right place and time to interfere with the fire department responding to a different friend's house fire. and yes, he should not have been in possession of firearms, for multiple reasons; and someone provided him with weapons, anyway. he also probably should have been under psychiatric care, as well, but we don't have any means of enforcing that, either.
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Post by the light works on Apr 24, 2018 1:04:35 GMT
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Post by ironhold on Apr 30, 2018 1:02:20 GMT
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Post by the light works on Apr 30, 2018 1:17:07 GMT
a random stranger on the internet asked why it is if we can't ban semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines in the US, because crazies will just fins another way to kill their victims; why are we banning nukes in Iran and North Korea?
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Post by GTCGreg on Apr 30, 2018 1:21:55 GMT
a random stranger on the internet asked why it is if we can't ban semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines in the US, because crazies will just fins another way to kill their victims; why are we banning nukes in Iran and North Korea? Because if they don't have nukes, they will use poison gas and then we have an excuse to bomb the snot out of them.
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Post by the light works on Apr 30, 2018 1:30:35 GMT
a random stranger on the internet asked why it is if we can't ban semiautomatic rifles with high capacity magazines in the US, because crazies will just fins another way to kill their victims; why are we banning nukes in Iran and North Korea? Because if they don't have nukes, they will use poison gas and then we have an excuse to bomb the snot out of them. well, I have to admit, I can see the logic in that.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 30, 2018 7:41:00 GMT
We dont like you any more so lets blow the sh--/snot out of your products.... thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/384553-nra-backers-blow-up-yeti-coolers-after-nra-announces-company-isAnd its becoming a "thing", with many more NRA supporters uploading video of them doing this sort of new take on the ice bucket challenge?. So I need to ask...] Is this now a thing?. If you DARE to disagree with the NRA, they will come round and shoot the snot outa your stuff?. ...And you wonder why many people just dont "trust" them?. The article continues... Yada yada yada..... Look, they are discontinuing the discounts you like, you now have to pay full price, the "Sale" is over, get a grip. Soooooo... now what's goina happen to United Airlines and Delta?.. do they start shooting Hertz rent-a-cars?.
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Post by the light works on Apr 30, 2018 10:47:30 GMT
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Post by ironhold on Apr 30, 2018 16:30:09 GMT
"Destroying products as a protest" has been done by a lot of people from a lot of different groups. Usually, this is of product they already have. If it's essential, they'll purchase product from a third party. If not, they'll live without it. For example, regional grocery chain H-E-B has been pushing their Kodi (C) brand of coolers as an alternative to Yeti. I imagine H-E-B corporate is glad about this here boycott. www.heb.com/kodi-mch
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Post by ironhold on May 11, 2018 9:53:49 GMT
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Post by the light works on May 19, 2018 2:00:31 GMT
statistic of the week: it is apparently now safer to be in the military than it is to be in school - Allegedly, more students have been shot so far this year than soldiers.
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Post by GTCGreg on May 19, 2018 17:50:46 GMT
statistic of the week: it is apparently now safer to be in the military than it is to be in school - Allegedly, more students have been shot so far this year than soldiers. Maybe because the soldiers can shoot back?
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Post by Lokifan on May 19, 2018 22:27:52 GMT
statistic of the week: it is apparently now safer to be in the military than it is to be in school - Allegedly, more students have been shot so far this year than soldiers. Maybe because the soldiers can shoot back? Actually, service members are about 40 times more likely to be shot than students. Since 1990, 150 students have been killed in school. At the same time, 7,063 service members have died. Beware fake news. And statistics that are skewed and rely on outliers.
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Post by the light works on May 19, 2018 23:42:25 GMT
Maybe because the soldiers can shoot back? Actually, service members are about 40 times more likely to be shot than students. Since 1990, 150 students have been killed in school. At the same time, 7,063 service members have died. Beware fake news. And statistics that are skewed and rely on outliers. so at what point does it stop being an outlier and start being a trend? when it goes from averaging over one firearm discharge in a school per week for the year to averaging one firearm discharge in a school per week over a 28 year period?
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Post by GTCGreg on May 20, 2018 1:02:09 GMT
so at what point does it stop being an outlier and start being a trend? when it goes from averaging over one firearm discharge in a school per week for the year to averaging one firearm discharge in a school per week over a 28 year period? It will stop when we start to treat schools at the same security level we use for government buildings. How many nuts with guns have we had get into the White House in the past 28 years? How many in the Capitol building? I recently had to go to the Federal Building in downtown Chicago. I had to remove everything from my pockets, take off my shoes and belt, and then pass through a metal detector. When we have that level of security in our schools, the shootings will stop. But I guess our kids just aren't as important to protect as politicians and lawyers.
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