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Post by silverdragon on Jun 22, 2016 6:20:33 GMT
Deadpool. The video is out. If, and that is important, If you have a darker sense of humour, if you do not mind a little graphic violence, on the bad guys of course, if you dont get easily offended by bad language, sexual references, simulated sex, some really cheesy jokes, and you have seen the trailer and think "I may want to watch that"... Its mad as a box of frogs sat on the table of a high class hotel. You may want to even watch it twice.
Am I allowed to do a dual review here and mention the game as well?. If you die in the game, which you will do in the early stages, whilst you get used to all the control, there is a cut scene of a "mashed" Deadpool looking at you, and the comments like "Ouuuch.. dont DO that", he then turns out the light. And insults you. This is a real laugh, or mild chuckle, right there. During the game, the character insults the player quite often. It has broken all the rules of third person shooter... as if there was any to start with?.. Nope. The original game from Hitchhikers Guide insulted the user first... but not as much. But it has broken the rules of what some people may want to think are the rules. So has the film, it has taken Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles batman superman xmen and the rest, and had a really good laugh at it, its a game about the making of a game, including budget constraints, and a 8-pixel part "Because we blew the budget on the last section", but still playable with a want to get better at it, and enjoy some of the story at the same time, because its light hearted.
I have got both, because my Kids understand my sense of humour, this isnt a game to play and win at, its a game to play and laugh at, and the film is a comedy, but its a comedy at the expense of many other super-hero movies out at the moment, and its supposed to amuse you, whilst still telling a story. Of sorts. The comedy is having a laugh at the absurdity of NOT having a laugh when the bad guys get their comeuppance?... You know you should, so why not?
But its still worth the watch...
And for me to say "Twice" means it is worth watching twice, because I dont say that very often at all.
I may come in and re-write this review on the second viewing, because I can, and why not?. Perhaps someone else can add a better review on their own experience, and maybe Ironhold can do a more commercial review if he has the time, but until then, you stuck with this...... And please add your own review if you can as well.
Final word, not for everyone of course, but those who have wondered if it is any good, yes it is, watch it yourself, I am trying not to put in any spoilers that would spoil it for you, but if I said the bad man dies, graphically, with some needless violence, but in a humorous way, does that really spoil a film like this?.. "Bring on the noise"
[edit, do NOT watch with someone else that has seen the film, because "This is the good bit" commentary from that type of person is just not needed?...]
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Post by the light works on Jun 22, 2016 15:11:48 GMT
what a coincidence. I saw it last night.
first off, this is not a family friendly superhero movie. this is an R rated movie, and it deserves it on every metric out there. sex, violence, nudity, NSFW language, guns. when I think about it, I don't recall seeing smoking.
for those who don't know who deadpool is, he is commonly known as "the merc with the mouth" because he is a wisecracking fourth-wall breaking superpowered loose cannon. this movie mostly ignores the almost-cameo in the Wolverine origin movie and retells the origin story in the same break-all-the-rules manner as the comic.
if you are warped, you will love it. if you are a special snowflake, you will be triggered in nearly every way.
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Post by ironhold on Jun 22, 2016 21:09:07 GMT
what a coincidence. I saw it last night. first off, this is not a family friendly superhero movie. this is an R rated movie, and it deserves it on every metric out there. sex, violence, nudity, NSFW language, guns. when I think about it, I don't recall seeing smoking. for those who don't know who deadpool is, he is commonly known as "the merc with the mouth" because he is a wisecracking fourth-wall breaking superpowered loose cannon. this movie mostly ignores the almost-cameo in the Wolverine origin movie and retells the origin story in the same break-all-the-rules manner as the comic. if you are warped, you will love it. if you are a special snowflake, you will be triggered in nearly every way. QFT. I think I posted this gem here -> www.virginislandsdailynews.com/ap/deadpool-plays-to-ryan-reynolds-snarky-strengths/article_0dcc0048-57d6-5bbf-a5a8-c18f60446a29.html - in which a reviewer goes feminist on the film because it has the basic superhero tropes at its core. I swear to God that I must be the only movie reviewer in the United States who actually read an issue of the comic before the film came out. Nobody else seems to understand that the film is very much in keeping with how he is in the comics and that the comic book industry as a whole was that bad back in the 1990s.
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Post by the light works on Jun 22, 2016 23:58:28 GMT
what a coincidence. I saw it last night. first off, this is not a family friendly superhero movie. this is an R rated movie, and it deserves it on every metric out there. sex, violence, nudity, NSFW language, guns. when I think about it, I don't recall seeing smoking. for those who don't know who deadpool is, he is commonly known as "the merc with the mouth" because he is a wisecracking fourth-wall breaking superpowered loose cannon. this movie mostly ignores the almost-cameo in the Wolverine origin movie and retells the origin story in the same break-all-the-rules manner as the comic. if you are warped, you will love it. if you are a special snowflake, you will be triggered in nearly every way. QFT. I think I posted this gem here -> www.virginislandsdailynews.com/ap/deadpool-plays-to-ryan-reynolds-snarky-strengths/article_0dcc0048-57d6-5bbf-a5a8-c18f60446a29.html - in which a reviewer goes feminist on the film because it has the basic superhero tropes at its core. I swear to God that I must be the only movie reviewer in the United States who actually read an issue of the comic before the film came out. Nobody else seems to understand that the film is very much in keeping with how he is in the comics and that the comic book industry as a whole was that bad back in the 1990s. I forgot to mention sexual abuse as a comic element.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jun 23, 2016 13:35:57 GMT
Note; The Deadpool game is actually a re-release having been originally released back in 2013. It is now available for Xbox 1, PS4 and has been put back on Stream after being taken off that site in 2014. Options on the game are/were largely positive to mixed. People loved the humor, but had issues with aspects of the gameplay - nothing serious in the latter, rather the feeling that it could get a little repetitive and wasn't quite as smooth as it could have been. Some idea as to the kind of self referential humor to expect comes from the start of the game...you've got to love a game where you get an achievement for simply getting out of a chair, the character comments on getting that achievement, you then get another achievement for getting an achievement and the character just says 'Oh, its one of those types of games'.
My opinion of the film is that it isn't perfect, but is a refreshing change from the normal comic book film in every-way. Starting with the fact that the marketing for the film never promised more than the film actually delivered...or gave anything important away.
If you want some idea as to what to expect just watch the trailers. If you like the trailers you will probably like the film.
Or as they said in the Honest Movie trailer (In which Deadpool himself actually appears in as himself) its a film you need to be 18 to see and 16 to enjoy.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 24, 2016 6:10:30 GMT
The game I am playing is the 2013 Xbox (360) version.
Yeah you need to be able to unlock your inner child to enjoy some of the humour, its more than just a little slapstick.....
If you have grown up "Too much", then this game will never interest you anyway, and the film is similar. Plus if you have grown up "Too much" what the hell are you doing playing games on a xbox anyway?..
It catches more people that it detracts from, because I can legitimately claim, of all the people I know, the ones who would get a giggle out of this, are the ones most likely to be on my Birthday card list?..
As in, I am sure 99% of all our members would get some form of a goggle at most of it, even if they felt a little guilty at laughing at such 'drivel' in the first place..... Call it a guilty pleasure, you know you shouldnt, but... Why shouldnt you anyway?.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jun 24, 2016 13:41:51 GMT
Trivia; The Deadpool song you hear in the game is also used in the film as part of its actual soundtrack.
Don't think of Deadpool as just being a comedic film. There are a few dark moments and drama, all of which are acted very well and are not cheapened by throwing in jokes. The humour is well paced and placed throughout. It would have been very easy to have made this too dark, or too light. But they managed to balance things out perfectly.
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Post by ironhold on Jun 25, 2016 0:40:32 GMT
Trivia; The Deadpool song you hear in the game is also used in the film as part of its actual soundtrack. Don't think of Deadpool as just being a comedic film. There are a few dark moments and drama, all of which are acted very well and are not cheapened by throwing in jokes. The humour is well paced and placed throughout. It would have been very easy to have made this too dark, or too light. But they managed to balance things out perfectly. Yeah; this is pretty much how a real-life person would act in that kind of situation.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 3, 2016 18:20:18 GMT
I'm usually not much for super hero movies, but this is one I'm going to watch over and over again. And not for the effects (even though they're awesome in their own right), but for the story and especially the humor. The mere fact that Deadpool - played by Ryan Reynolds - makes a crack about how Ryan Reynolds is never hired for anything because of his acting chops, but mainly because of his looks tells you this isn't your average movie
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 3, 2016 19:01:58 GMT
That's actually another part of the film that was done perfectly; The fourth wall breaks*. It would have been very easy to have misused, over done or just done these badly. However they are used to perfection, be that Deadpool directly addressing the viewer, doing something that clearly indicates he knows there is a camera there or saying something to another character that references aspects of the film itself. (At one point he comments about the studio not wanting to spend money on something...referencing the fact that Fox cut several million dollars off the films budget halfway through filming. Despite the sudden lack of support, for which I really hope someone got fired for, they turned this to their advantage)
Those of you with the video release will want to stick through the end titles as there is an after credits scene. This scene tells you the kind of mentality they had when marketing the film, as in it Deadpool reveals that Deadpool 2 will have Cable (Another Marvel character who shared a comic with Deadpool, and appears in the video game) in it. At the time that was filmed no one could or would have known how successful the movie was going to be**. But they have since announced that yes, there is going to be a Deadpool 2 and it will indeed include Cable. Or in other words at no point have they mislead anyone as to what to expect from the film. Lets just hope that Fox just gives them the money needed and leaves them alone to make and market the next film without some vapid suits interfering. If they do they are going to end up losing a potential replacement for Hugh Jackman and with it most likely the X-Men franchise as well.
*For anyone who doesn't understand what beaming the fourth wall means, it is when a character says or does something that indicates they are fully aware the audience in there - such as talking to them directly. Or indicates they are aware they are a character in a story. Deadpool is well known for doing this in the comics, the only other Marvel character I can think of who has been known to do this is She-Hulk. In both cases they have been known to breakout of a panel and run over/though other panels in order to take a shortcut.
**Deadpool earned more than any of the X-Men films, and I think more than all Marvel films bar the first Avengers film. (I think these figures are for the US domestic box office, as Deadpool was not released in China). This would be impressive in itself. But is even more impressive considering it was released in mid February, a time where conventional wisdom says few people go to the cinema. Added to this is the amount of profit the film made. Deadpool cost around 58 million to make, the average superhero films between 150-200 million (not including marketing). So not only did it cost between a quarter to a third less than other comic book films it made more money as well...
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Post by ironhold on Jul 3, 2016 22:41:24 GMT
Actually, for the last few years Hollywood has put out an action movie at Valentine's Day as a counter to the usual slew of romance and family titles. This year it was Deadpool, last year it was Kingsman, and the year before it was the Robocop remake. This way, people like me who don't have significant others can still find something waiting for us at the theater.
As far as the budget issues go, the original plan called for three members of the X-Men: Colossus, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, and Cannonball. However, the movie didn't have the money to have a third "face" actor and pay for the CGI for both Cannonball and NTW, and so Cannonball was scrapped. NTW was given some of his abilities so that the little bit of CGI animation for him that was already done could still be used.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 4, 2016 6:21:09 GMT
Now I get the reference about "Budget cuts", I did not know Fox had slashed the budget whilst filming. I have to wonder how the film would have changed without that?.. better or worse?.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 4, 2016 11:50:25 GMT
Now I get the reference about "Budget cuts", I did not know Fox had slashed the budget whilst filming. I have to wonder how the film would have changed without that?.. better or worse?. They cut around 7 million off the budget just after filming had started. The fact that people had to be told this says a lot about the film. *MINOR, VERY MINOR, SPOILER* They rewrote a couple of the fight scenes to have Deadpool forget his ammunition. So he used his swords instead of guns. Ironically this might actually have to their advantage, as this gave those scenes a fresher feel. Don't be too surprised if in Deadpool 2 he forgets his ammunition again at some point. Or remembers and makes some comment about budgets. He might even take a verbal stab at the studio, something along the lines of how supportive people can be after you've earned some 600 million for them.
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Post by mrfatso on Jul 4, 2016 13:21:06 GMT
I watched it this weekend with some friends, one she was laughing like a hyena all the way throughout . It was as everyone else has said very true to the character of Deadpool as he is portrayed in the comic books, and the wall breaks are funny. I particularly enjoyed the comment about green animated suit, references to the terrible Green Latern movie Renolds did.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 4, 2016 13:25:18 GMT
I watched it this weekend with some friends, one she was laughing like a hyena all the way throughout . It was as everyone else has said very true to the character of Deadpool as he is portrayed in the comic books, and the wall breaks are funny. I particularly enjoyed the comment about green animated suit, references to the terrible Green Latern movie Renolds did. I was already laughing at the opening credits
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Post by the light works on Jul 4, 2016 14:00:00 GMT
Now I get the reference about "Budget cuts", I did not know Fox had slashed the budget whilst filming. I have to wonder how the film would have changed without that?.. better or worse?. They cut around 7 million off the budget just after filming had started. The fact that people had to be told this says a lot about the film. *MINOR, VERY MINOR, SPOILER* They rewrote a couple of the fight scenes to have Deadpool forget his ammunition. So he used his swords instead of guns. Ironically this might actually have to their advantage, as this gave those scenes a fresher feel. Don't be too surprised if in Deadpool 2 he forgets his ammunition again at some point. Or remembers and makes some comment about budgets. He might even take a verbal stab at the studio, something along the lines of how supportive people can be after you've earned some 600 million for them. my money says worse - they would have lost some great material.
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Post by the light works on Jul 4, 2016 14:00:52 GMT
I watched it this weekend with some friends, one she was laughing like a hyena all the way throughout . It was as everyone else has said very true to the character of Deadpool as he is portrayed in the comic books, and the wall breaks are funny. I particularly enjoyed the comment about green animated suit, references to the terrible Green Latern movie Renolds did. I was already laughing at the opening credits according to the trivia, that started out as temporary titles, and they liked them so much they kept them.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 4, 2016 15:49:06 GMT
I was already laughing at the opening credits according to the trivia, that started out as temporary titles, and they liked them so much they kept them. I'm glad they did. Those were really cool and helped set the tone for the entire movie
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 4, 2016 16:05:42 GMT
It if haven't go find the honest trailer for Deadpool on YouTube. Ryan Reynolds actually appears in it, as Deadpool, and at one point comments that they "borrowed" aspects of the opening title sequence from Honest Trailers. Considering Ryan was willing to appear on what is a fairly small channel I tend to believe he wasn't just making a joke there.
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