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Post by silverdragon on Jan 23, 2018 9:25:39 GMT
]Now you're getting confused between being willing to take risks and being stupid. Is it a fine line, or do some people confuse the two, or is it that some people see risks as a necessity because they come first?. You and I know better, because we have driven at possible high speeds in a hurry at times, me because of race training, but even there, in a "light contact" sport, you know the risks you can take or end up getting towed back out of the scenery. Its a very thin line at times, but its a definite line, and one you can see, there is no grey area, either your going to or you aint, and if you feel possibly you shouldnt, then you are crossing the line. However, some people do not have that thought process, if I "crowd" that car they will give way and I can push in at the front of the queue. If I take that corner 5mph faster than I did last time, its only 5mph, therefore I will be "safe", for any given meaning of safe. Until they wreck, they feel invulnerable?. And when they do wreck, they get given the invitation to join the sensible end of the driving ability spectrum. Being sensible enough to accept that invitation, thats the mark of a true repentant. Then there is "the one", mr special, or even Mrs special, who has had a dozen cars in as many years and wrecked every single one, but still whines on about how expensive car insurance is. My last full comp car insurance with a guaranteed "Like for like" hire car if I am wrecked legal cover and all the rest, a sort of "platinum" package of fully comprehensive, came in at less than the price of dinner for eight at a good restaurant. 12 yrs NCD comes with a good discount. Taking risks?. 10 yrs silver bullet and light explosives loads tends to do this to you, I take far fewer risks than "your average person", yet I still manage to get places?. Maybe not as fast, but being Dead on Time is only for corpses. I am either early or late, there is no exacts?.. who cares anyway if its 5 mins late?. if time is that important, aim to get there early. Or book a later appointment. "Dad can you hurry up I am late" from the back seats tends to get an invitation to walk, and they know that, because even my Kids respect who is driving. How come when people are running late they NEED to drive faster?. They run that route every day, they know that the traffic has its own pace, they lambaste those who are driving crazy, yet when they are late?. You are late, be late, you have a phone AND a hands free kit, call ahead, apologise, blame it on traffic, people are not that unforgiving?. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 23, 2018 14:38:24 GMT
]Now you're getting confused between being willing to take risks and being stupid. Is it a fine line, or do some people confuse the two, or is it that some people see risks as a necessity because they come first?. You and I know better, because we have driven at possible high speeds in a hurry at times, me because of race training, but even there, in a "light contact" sport, you know the risks you can take or end up getting towed back out of the scenery. Its a very thin line at times, but its a definite line, and one you can see, there is no grey area, either your going to or you aint, and if you feel possibly you shouldnt, then you are crossing the line. However, some people do not have that thought process, if I "crowd" that car they will give way and I can push in at the front of the queue. If I take that corner 5mph faster than I did last time, its only 5mph, therefore I will be "safe", for any given meaning of safe. Until they wreck, they feel invulnerable?. And when they do wreck, they get given the invitation to join the sensible end of the driving ability spectrum. Being sensible enough to accept that invitation, thats the mark of a true repentant. Then there is "the one", mr special, or even Mrs special, who has had a dozen cars in as many years and wrecked every single one, but still whines on about how expensive car insurance is. My last full comp car insurance with a guaranteed "Like for like" hire car if I am wrecked legal cover and all the rest, a sort of "platinum" package of fully comprehensive, came in at less than the price of dinner for eight at a good restaurant. 12 yrs NCD comes with a good discount. Taking risks?. 10 yrs silver bullet and light explosives loads tends to do this to you, I take far fewer risks than "your average person", yet I still manage to get places?. Maybe not as fast, but being Dead on Time is only for corpses. I am either early or late, there is no exacts?.. who cares anyway if its 5 mins late?. if time is that important, aim to get there early. Or book a later appointment. "Dad can you hurry up I am late" from the back seats tends to get an invitation to walk, and they know that, because even my Kids respect who is driving. How come when people are running late they NEED to drive faster?. They run that route every day, they know that the traffic has its own pace, they lambaste those who are driving crazy, yet when they are late?. You are late, be late, you have a phone AND a hands free kit, call ahead, apologise, blame it on traffic, people are not that unforgiving?. yes, there is a difference. and yeah, there's the "keep a good distance between you and them" drivers because you can see they tend to bang into things. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 18, 2018 9:21:37 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43088645It cant be that deep, it only comes halfway up them ducks.... Number One, "Know what you are doing", if you cant see the kerb, how deep was the kerb in the first place. You got a 4x4 and think you CAN just wade on through?. Nope. Only those with waterproofed engines are capable of just going out and doing that. Things to be aware of, what is the lowest electrical component in your engine?. Because water and electrics dont work well together. Good rule of thumb, your wheel nuts, if the water is that high, dont even think of trying. If you get axle deep, maybe its time to work out how deep it gets? There is an art form to wading your car, you either know, or you fail.... Slow and steady. If you have the 4x4 with the necessary waterproofing, you can create a bow wave and follow that through the water, but not at speed, if you have a normal car, if it starts getting above your lights, you are going to start to float, and thats worse than aquaplaning. Water in the air intake, you start compressing water in the engine block, and, that aint good news.
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Post by the light works on Feb 18, 2018 11:48:13 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43088645It cant be that deep, it only comes halfway up them ducks.... Number One, "Know what you are doing", if you cant see the kerb, how deep was the kerb in the first place. You got a 4x4 and think you CAN just wade on through?. Nope. Only those with waterproofed engines are capable of just going out and doing that. Things to be aware of, what is the lowest electrical component in your engine?. Because water and electrics dont work well together. Good rule of thumb, your wheel nuts, if the water is that high, dont even think of trying. If you get axle deep, maybe its time to work out how deep it gets? There is an art form to wading your car, you either know, or you fail.... Slow and steady. If you have the 4x4 with the necessary waterproofing, you can create a bow wave and follow that through the water, but not at speed, if you have a normal car, if it starts getting above your lights, you are going to start to float, and thats worse than aquaplaning. Water in the air intake, you start compressing water in the engine block, and, that aint good news. most car elctrics under the hood are made to survive getting splashed, because it is hard to avoid except by moving to dubai. the four biggest places people get into trouble are by floating the car - and I think there was an episode about how little moving water it takes to push a car off the road; by hitting stuff hidden under the water; by turning their cooling fan into a boat propeller and tearing up their radiator with it. (my dad taught me about that. he said people who planned to drive through deep water would make a way to pull the fan off, quickly); and most commonly by thinking faster is better and splashing so much water up to their air intake that they get liquid into the cylinders. the other hazard is if you submerge your axles, and they are warm, the water will cool them and may pull the water into the axle through the vents or bearings. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 18, 2018 15:23:31 GMT
should we assemble a top ten list of urban myths about what driving habits can kill you arranged in order of how likely they are to ACTUALLY kill you?
#10 would be don't use your headlights to communicate with another driver because it might be a gang initiation.
I'd put using cruise control in the rain around #5, because while it won't make your car fly like an airplane, it can lead to you not being attentive to whether you are going too fast for conditions.
but would driving through a flooded section be higher or lower? the risk of death in a flash flood is very real, but there is a much higher frequency of damaging the car without the passengers being at risk, simply because there are a lot of cases of intersections flooding with no current or other significant hazards.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 19, 2018 4:30:04 GMT
I agree with most of what you say, but on my opinion, water on electrics as a "splash" is yeah, as you say, standard operating risk in wet climates,
Submerging the alternator or starter motor, either just the contacts or fully submerged in flood water, thats going to cause rust that not even a full bath in WD40 is going to cure.
On hitting Flood water "Hard", because some twerp on the internets did that and it looked fun, is more liable to cause a spin, and ditch you into the scenery.
Especially if you catch a kerb or other submerged obstruction.
In this case, dependant on what sped you think is fast, anywhere on a scale of 1-10 is directly inversely proportional to the speed you hit the water at.. 10mph, you may hit a log and puncture a tyre, 20 you may bend a wheel on a kerb, 30 its going to sting a little when the airbag deploys, 100mph you could spin in all three dimensions, even at the same time, maybe even in the 4th dimension as the world slows down and your life flashes before you, either way, its going to hurt a lot before they pull you from the wreckage?.
On hitting water hard, this I have done on an unexpected flood in a big vehicle, if you dont have power steering, all the "Dont loop your thumb on the inside of the steering wheel" is coming into play, because it will rip your wheel right out your hand.
And if one side is much deeper than the other, thats then going to rip the vehicle out of your control.
My case, it was about a foot or slightly more deep, more kerbside than out because the camber of the road, the wheel jerked left, I didnt let go, but I got water on the windshield, all the way up 6ft and higher from the ground.
The vehicle did slow down suddenly, and I am thankful for a seat belt, because everything, EVERYTHING, in the cab, landed on the window sill, or footwell.
I took it out of gear and managed to coast whilst the engine recovered, found second by luck, and crawled out, much cleaner than I went in, and thank [duck] the vehicle was empty, because the two empty pallets and a pallet truck inside broke their restraints and came forward with a thunk.
Maybe the MB's would like to look at this and show the results, two towed vehicles into standing water, deeper one side than the other as in normal road camber, one with steering locked to show the forces involved if the steering doesnt swing wildly, and one open steering with Busters Thumb looped in the wheel to show him getting it yanked out.?
Perhaps they could also show a "pro" who knows what he is doing and just how you should proceed into a flood, and when is deep too deep and you should turn around.
On the top ten of silly things to do in a car, distraction by Phone, and other distractions, must be in there somewhere.
Driving at night WITH NO BLOODY LIGHTS ON, or in any other form of diminished visibility, more for other vehicles than your own stupid backside, has to be a major concern and worthy of the top ten.
See and be seen... if visability is less than perfect, put them lights on please?. Even side lights, just so I can see you moving and wont get in your way.
Those twerps in "Executive silver" or FOG Grey coloured cars that only use side lights at 70mph on a motorway, your the same colour as the fog, and then you think its MY fault for changing lanes in front of you?..
I suspect the top ten may become the top 20 here easily, I can come up with plenty if I put my mind to it?.
Ignorance of wing mirrors, and just swapping lanes with no warning.
Incorrect use of windshield wipers. [-intermittent, slow, fast, how hard is is raining... my car has 5 settings for the intermittent as well ]
Incorrect signalling, leaving the turn signal on for "Miles", or just not using it at all.
Riding the brake and cooking the brake linings.
The fishing hole in the ice sized patch on the windshield when you dont think you need to defrost the car fully in the winter.
Driving with a foot high lump of snow on your roof thats going to slide down as soon as it gets a little warm and you have to brake firmly.
These are just a few that are off the top of my head, perhaps you wanna' add your own pet peeve's of stupid driving habits and then we can vote on the top ten?.. or 20, or 30....etc.
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Post by the light works on Feb 19, 2018 9:52:34 GMT
I think it is bumper height at which the water comes up over the hood and onto the windshield. but yes, tall standing water also applies a lot of drag.
but it's not the top ten bad driving habits I was talking of, it's the top ten urban myths about driving habits.
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 20, 2018 0:03:11 GMT
Myth: "A 4wd pickup (larger the better) will be all you need to drive in a snow storm." Or "Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can drive safely though a snow storm." The inverse to this is that "It doen't matter what the drivetrain is, a good pair of snow tires will out perform a 4WD/AWD with all season tires in the snow."
Based on trying to drive home in Saturday's storm, I'll go with the tires part myself. It seemed like every car that was in a ditch was a large pickup truck.
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2018 1:04:19 GMT
Myth: "A 4wd pickup (larger the better) will be all you need to drive in a snow storm." Or "Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can drive safely though a snow storm." The inverse to this is that "It doen't matter what the drivetrain is, a good pair of snow tires will out perform a 4WD/AWD with all season tires in the snow." Based on trying to drive home in Saturday's storm, I'll go with the tires part myself. It seemed like every car that was in a ditch was a large pickup truck. my parents got home last night, said they'd gone through a flurry that left a debris field behind them. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 20, 2018 1:40:11 GMT
Myth: "A 4wd pickup (larger the better) will be all you need to drive in a snow storm." Or "Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can drive safely though a snow storm." The inverse to this is that "It doen't matter what the drivetrain is, a good pair of snow tires will out perform a 4WD/AWD with all season tires in the snow." Based on trying to drive home in Saturday's storm, I'll go with the tires part myself. It seemed like every car that was in a ditch was a large pickup truck. I'd go with good tires and 4WD. But after many years experience with both, if I only could have one, I'd opt for the 4WD with conventional tires over 2WD with snow tires. In fact, I will never own another vehicle without 4WD or AWD. Large pickups have another traction problem not related to how many drive wheels they may have. That's because they are just too light in the back to keep the rear tires from losing traction and that's why you see so many in the ditch. Drivers that tend to THINK they can go through anything can also be a contributing factor. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2018 4:43:50 GMT
Myth: "A 4wd pickup (larger the better) will be all you need to drive in a snow storm." Or "Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can drive safely though a snow storm." The inverse to this is that "It doen't matter what the drivetrain is, a good pair of snow tires will out perform a 4WD/AWD with all season tires in the snow." Based on trying to drive home in Saturday's storm, I'll go with the tires part myself. It seemed like every car that was in a ditch was a large pickup truck. I'd go with good tires and 4WD. But after many years experience with both, if I only could have one, I'd opt for the 4WD with conventional tires over 2WD with snow tires. In fact, I will never own another vehicle without 4WD or AWD. Large pickups have another traction problem not related to how many drive wheels they may have. That's because they are just too light in the back to keep the rear tires from losing traction and that's why you see so many in the ditch. Drivers that tend to THINK they can go through anything can also be a contributing factor. me, if I had to choose between the two, I'd take the good tires over the 4WD |
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 20, 2018 5:17:58 GMT
I'd go with good tires and 4WD. But after many years experience with both, if I only could have one, I'd opt for the 4WD with conventional tires over 2WD with snow tires. In fact, I will never own another vehicle without 4WD or AWD. Large pickups have another traction problem not related to how many drive wheels they may have. That's because they are just too light in the back to keep the rear tires from losing traction and that's why you see so many in the ditch. Drivers that tend to THINK they can go through anything can also be a contributing factor. me, if I had to choose between the two, I'd take the good tires over the 4WD I can only speak from my own experience driving 54 years in upper Midwest winters. I've owned rear wheel drive, front wheel drive, and 4WD vehicles. I've had everything from snow tires to bald tires. Hands down, the single biggest factor in maintaining traction and even more importantly, vehicle steerability in bad weather is 4WD and even better, AWD with electronic traction control. Your experience may be different. |
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Post by wvengineer on Feb 20, 2018 5:48:03 GMT
Drivers having a over inflated opinion of their abilities and their equipment is the biggest factor. Saturday I was passed by a F250 who didn't like me going 20 under in the middle of a snow storm. I passed them a couple miles down the road when they were down in a ditch. Others included a Mustang that was speeding and skiding all over the place. Young kid grinning the whole way. I really hope he found a tree to fold his car around before he hit anyone.
At one point I owned both a Toyota Carola (FWD) and Subaru Outback (AWD). The Carola had winter tires and the Outback had the factory all season tires. That Carola could go up snowy hills like they were nothing, while the Outback would not be able to climb. Heck, if I put the traction cables on the Carola, it could go though just about anything that wasn't above the axles.
The sad part is, unless they have a new crew, I have seen the Mythbusters drive on snow. They were idiots that should never be let around snow again. Maybe the new group is better.
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Post by GTCGreg on Feb 20, 2018 6:11:39 GMT
Drivers having a over inflated opinion of their abilities and their equipment is the biggest factor. Saturday I was passed by a F250 who didn't like me going 20 under in the middle of a snow storm. I passed them a couple miles down the road when they were down in a ditch. Others included a Mustang that was speeding and skiding all over the place. Young kid grinning the whole way. I really hope he found a tree to fold his car around before he hit anyone. At one point I owned both a Toyota Carola (FWD) and Subaru Outback (AWD). The Carola had winter tires and the Outback had the factory all season tires. That Carola could go up snowy hills like they were nothing, while the Outback would not be able to climb. Heck, if I put the traction cables on the Carola, it could go though just about anything that wasn't above the axles. The sad part is, unless they have a new crew, I have seen the Mythbusters drive on snow. They were idiots that should never be let around snow again. Maybe the new group is better. The first real experience I had with 4WD in heavy snow was about 15 years ago. My son was in high school and we got him a very used Jeep Cherokee to get to school and back. Not long after we bought it, we had a 26" snowfall. We took that car out and tried to get it stuck in the snow and couldn't do it. The car didn't have any special snow tires or anything like that. In fact, the tires weren't really in that great a shape. We took it out in an unplowed parking lot and was going in snow so deep it was above the front bumper. The car went through it like it was nothing. The thing that really sold me wasn't just how well it went through deep snow but how much better it handled in just slippery conditions compared to a 2WD vehicle. The trick was learning how to use the accelerator rather than the brakes to get you out of trouble. If you did start to slide, just give it a little gas and it would straighten right out. Doing that on a RWD vehicle would just make it worse. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 20, 2018 7:01:07 GMT
I think it is bumper height at which the water comes up over the hood and onto the windshield. but yes, tall standing water also applies a lot of drag. but it's not the top ten bad driving habits I was talking of, it's the top ten urban myths about driving habits. Care to illuminate a few for us?, just so I get an idea?. What would be your top ten then?. #For arguments sake. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 20, 2018 7:10:30 GMT
Myth: "A 4wd pickup (larger the better) will be all you need to drive in a snow storm." Or "Any 4WD/AWD vehicle can drive safely though a snow storm." The inverse to this is that "It doen't matter what the drivetrain is, a good pair of snow tires will out perform a 4WD/AWD with all season tires in the snow." Based on trying to drive home in Saturday's storm, I'll go with the tires part myself. It seemed like every car that was in a ditch was a large pickup truck. In My estimation, a GOOD 4wd drive system, such as a Subaru, Audi Quattro, Landrover, Toyota Land-cruiser, and that type, will be at the top of the tree. [edit-- A Good set of snow chains on any vehicle is worth their weight in gold.
Knowing how to use them, priceless.] See below post... Front wheel drive is next, and a good Fwd with good snow tyres or good all weather tyres will beat a bad 4wheeler driven by the uneducated any day, I have proven that myself. Rear wheel drive only, you may as well get a toboggan for all they are worth in bad conditions. Even with good tyres. Bad 4wheel drive that is permanent, such as old Landrovers, good in the right hands, but, useless in the wrong, any permanent 4wd is going to spin out as soon as one wheel looses grip, so any intelligent sends the power to the wheel with most grip system is better. Then you have the driver... The "Mo-Power" lead foot variety that thinks the more power you supply the better will just sit spinning. The intelligent "Start of slow and stay at slow speed" that can "feel" the grip on the road through the fingertips, those that have had a lot of training experience in bad weather, or even skid pan training, will be the better driver of any type of vehicle. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 20, 2018 7:24:03 GMT
the "My car can do anything" crew who own the pickup that they *think* can handle anything are the worst...
No good buying all the gear if you have no idea.
Money doesnt guarantee experience... it can buy you a training day, and you may benefit from the training, but just buying the best piece of equipment doesnt guarantee you will know how to use it?.
And on top of that, in bad weather, cars all over the place, including some that were bought for off-road conditions, comes me in a Transit Van on tyres that were still legal "just about", and I manage a straight line through the carnage, with a feather light touch on the throttle.
Why?.
Because I have been taught how to do that, Skid pan training in a Bus, it doesnt guarantee I will drive better in bad conditions, but it does guarantee I know when to raise the white flag and say "thats beyond my abilities", and it does guarantee I am that gentle on the controls that I can slowly navigate through where others, the "mo-Power" fools, have failed?.
You find those that live with the conditions know how to handle the conditions.
And I have driven part of the John Dalton ice road. [many years ago when I visited relatives in Canada... ]
It is my estimation that those tourists from other area's, and London drivers being the worst, who make the most mistakes in bad weather.
Some of them are quite intelligent, maybe many of them, you never see those who manage to pass without fail, but the cause is lost on those who have all the gear but no idea.
And lastly, I forgot one extra in the above post.
A Good set of snow chains on any vehicle is worth their weight in gold.
Knowing how to use them, priceless.
I am adding that right now.... because it matters
CHAINS, not them glorified rubber band things, they are one use only and throwaway as soon as you realise they are useless?.
For those that dont know...
Get the right size for your car, and get them that have the solid clamps, not rubber bungee cords.
Get the rating from the information sheet, and if it says do NOT exceed 20mph, think of that a bit, you have snow chains on, why on earth do you think you have a need for speed?.
Remember that running them on Tarmac wears them out, and wears out the tarmac as well, but manly, they will damage your tyres if you overheat them, so as soon as you get to solid ground, stop and take them off.
Know how to use them, practise at home, practise with Gloves on, because its liable to be *BLOODY* Cold when you need to put them on, get that right, and you will thank yourself later for that.
Know how to roll over them to get them all the way around the tyre, if thats the way your set works, know how to get the right tightness on them, the tighter the better, if its that hard to get them on, its going to be that hard to throw them off.
And with snow chains on, it doesnt guarantee anything at all, its just a slight edge that helps when any advantage is useful.
Be GENTLE with the driving... imagine you have two broken wrists and a basket of eggs on the passenger seat?.. THAT gentle.
Spinning out with chains on is a risk they may fly off... right through the wheel arch... and what damage may that do?.
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2018 14:59:06 GMT
Drivers having a over inflated opinion of their abilities and their equipment is the biggest factor. Saturday I was passed by a F250 who didn't like me going 20 under in the middle of a snow storm. I passed them a couple miles down the road when they were down in a ditch. Others included a Mustang that was speeding and skiding all over the place. Young kid grinning the whole way. I really hope he found a tree to fold his car around before he hit anyone. At one point I owned both a Toyota Carola (FWD) and Subaru Outback (AWD). The Carola had winter tires and the Outback had the factory all season tires. That Carola could go up snowy hills like they were nothing, while the Outback would not be able to climb. Heck, if I put the traction cables on the Carola, it could go though just about anything that wasn't above the axles. The sad part is, unless they have a new crew, I have seen the Mythbusters drive on snow. They were idiots that should never be let around snow again. Maybe the new group is better. The first real experience I had with 4WD in heavy snow was about 15 years ago. My son was in high school and we got him a very used Jeep Cherokee to get to school and back. Not long after we bought it, we had a 26" snowfall. We took that car out and tried to get it stuck in the snow and couldn't do it. The car didn't have any special snow tires or anything like that. In fact, the tires weren't really in that great a shape. We took it out in an unplowed parking lot and was going in snow so deep it was above the front bumper. The car went through it like it was nothing. The thing that really sold me wasn't just how well it went through deep snow but how much better it handled in just slippery conditions compared to a 2WD vehicle. The trick was learning how to use the accelerator rather than the brakes to get you out of trouble. If you did start to slide, just give it a little gas and it would straighten right out. Doing that on a RWD vehicle would just make it worse. yeah, did that with the Jeep on the way up to go skiing, once. about the time it got up to 45 or so I gave that up for a bad idea and slid it along the snowbank to get it slowed back down without swapping ends. it was shortly after that that I got rid of the mud tires and got all season tires. but the car that was the most sure footed on ice was the front wheel drive with the special compound snow tires. |
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Post by the light works on Feb 20, 2018 15:06:48 GMT
I think it is bumper height at which the water comes up over the hood and onto the windshield. but yes, tall standing water also applies a lot of drag. but it's not the top ten bad driving habits I was talking of, it's the top ten urban myths about driving habits. Care to illuminate a few for us?, just so I get an idea?. What would be your top ten then?. #For arguments sake. I gave three examples: if a car approaches at night with no headlights, don't flash yours at them, because it's a gang initiation, and they are to stalk and murder the first person who flashes at them. don't drive with cruise control in the rain, or when you hydroplane, you will have uncontrollable acceleration and take off like an airplane. don't drive through flood water, or it will wash your car away to the ocean and you will drown. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 21, 2018 7:19:38 GMT
Care to illuminate a few for us?, just so I get an idea?. What would be your top ten then?. #For arguments sake. I gave three examples: if a car approaches at night with no headlights, don't flash yours at them, because it's a gang initiation, and they are to stalk and murder the first person who flashes at them. don't drive with cruise control in the rain, or when you hydroplane, you will have uncontrollable acceleration and take off like an airplane. don't drive through flood water, or it will wash your car away to the ocean and you will drown. Oh, Ok, but can I answer them?. In UK, so you may not get the same mileage. 1] flashing lights, its common here, as a signal "I will give way to you", if that starts getting gang initiation status, "It will be dealt with", because we use it a LOT?.. 2] CC "In the wet", we dealth with this before, that any CC system cancels with the first touch of the brakes, and has to be re-set. However, modern CC systems will not engage if the traction control indicates "thats a bad idea", unless you are using a hill descent crawler on a RangeRover type thing?. 3] I am at least 50 mile from the sea, thats a LOT of mileage?.. |
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