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Post by ironhold on Jan 8, 2017 3:18:25 GMT
Let's see -
Deflategate: Totally a missed opportunity. We've had experiments done - including one by a kid - that showed it was entirely possible for the temperature to affect the pressure of the ball, something that IMHO would have made the better challenge since it would have tested the contestants' knowledge of the relevant science. Instead, they were graded on their ability to catch footballs.
Eliminated Contestant: This one was telegraphed from start to finish.
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Post by the light works on Jan 8, 2017 16:58:53 GMT
I presumably have it on the recorder to watch this afternoon. I'll be in with my opinion after.
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Post by ironhold on Jan 8, 2017 23:04:41 GMT
Truth is, I don't see the show getting rid of both of the remaining female contestants; I'm pretty confident that even if they are both disqualified, the one that lasts the longest will return to be the next Kari Byron.
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Post by the light works on Jan 8, 2017 23:52:24 GMT
Truth is, I don't see the show getting rid of both of the remaining female contestants; I'm pretty confident that even if they are both disqualified, the one that lasts the longest will return to be the next Kari Byron. the question there is if next season will be mythbusters 2.0 or if it will be search for the next mythbusters season 2. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 9, 2017 1:12:19 GMT
okay, I've now watched it.
the auto ejector seat would have been good subject matter for the equivalent of junkyard wars/scrapheap challenge.
the deflategate "test" was about as unscientific as could be.
so far I'm less than impressed.
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Post by the light works on Jan 9, 2017 1:19:12 GMT
that said, were I to try to do a sideways ejector seat, I would have approached the task much differently. I'm thinking I would want to set a ram that would force the door open; then reconfigure the seat belt anchors so that when the door was forced open, the seat belts would yank the passenger out of the seat, leaving the seat in the car and the door attached.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 9, 2017 3:23:18 GMT
Truth is, I don't see the show getting rid of both of the remaining female contestants; I'm pretty confident that even if they are both disqualified, the one that lasts the longest will return to be the next Kari Byron. the question there is if next season will be mythbusters 2.0 or if it will be search for the next mythbusters season 2. From what I can tell it will be a new series of Mythbusters. The Search For show seems to be a mixture of filler and a genuine attempt to find new hosts. I'd assume they want to get some of the old chaotic feel from the original series, so wouldn't want to look at more professional actors and presenters. |
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 9, 2017 7:32:55 GMT
The Deflategate segment was so un-MythBustery it was silly. There was no science and no experimenting - it was just can you catch a ball. That doesn't bust anything as far as I can tell. The sideways ejector seat was much better, and I liked seeing what the teams came up with. Is it just me or was the female who did the driving almost a Kari clone? She almost even sounded like her. Weird. That said, I loved hearing Robert Lee again and seeing that they weren't really kicking the original teams to the curb, which is kind of how I felt about this show at first when it was announced. I'll give this show a chance. No one will ever replace the originals, though.  |
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Post by the light works on Jan 9, 2017 15:27:04 GMT
The Deflategate segment was so un-MythBustery it was silly. There was no science and no experimenting - it was just can you catch a ball. That doesn't bust anything as far as I can tell. The sideways ejector seat was much better, and I liked seeing what the teams came up with. Is it just me or was the female who did the driving almost a Kari clone? She almost even sounded like her. Weird. That said, I loved hearing Robert Lee again and seeing that they weren't really kicking the original teams to the curb, which is kind of how I felt about this show at first when it was announced. I'll give this show a chance. No one will ever replace the originals, though. some of them seem a lot to me like they are trying to mimic the previous people. to me that is an immediate negative mark. |
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 10, 2017 18:04:59 GMT
I'm not a fan of the host. I don't know, or have anything invested in him, so why do I care about his opinions?
Barring that, I thought it was fine. It'll take some getting use to, and a bit for the show to find it's own legs to stand on. I think, as the search narrows, those still watching will feel vested in 'their person' winning. As of now, I really like Alan, but that's because I've seen him on other things and he's got some pretty awesome ideas
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 10, 2017 21:14:05 GMT
Observation/thought (keeping in mind I haven't seen the episode); It is possible that they are splitting the myths so one shows off how the potentials handle being in front of a camera, while the other gives them a chance to show their more technical skills.
Mythbuster hosts need to have a decent mix of both especially this time around. Lest we forget Adam was put forward for the show for having a good mixture of technocal and hosting skills, Tori and Scotty were able to pick up hosting skills during the first season. While both Kari and Grant were helped by other members of the build team who were more experienced in one or both areas; as well as working alongside people they knew.
None of this is going to apply to the new hosts, so I'm guessing they will be testing to see who has a decent foundation in both areas. Hence the possibility of them doing things that are less testing and more about hosting.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 10, 2017 21:24:27 GMT
My opinion on the deflate gate myth 'test' was that they didn't really want to get into anything else on the show. They wanted to have something besides the main myth, but didn't want a build or huge scientific study, so they simply asked the question, "does the inflation level of a football (American)even have any impact on the catch-ability of the football" That's it, that's what they were testing. It gave the hopefuls a chance to show their personality in a 'fun' setting.
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Post by the light works on Jan 11, 2017 1:45:52 GMT
My opinion on the deflate gate myth 'test' was that they didn't really want to get into anything else on the show. They wanted to have something besides the main myth, but didn't want a build or huge scientific study, so they simply asked the question, "does the inflation level of a football (American)even have any impact on the catch-ability of the football" That's it, that's what they were testing. It gave the hopefuls a chance to show their personality in a 'fun' setting. my opinion on the deflategate test is that whoever came up with it should be the next one to go home. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 12, 2017 10:39:45 GMT
The ability to catch a football being how you get thrown off the show....
Question, if someone totally suited for the show, I dunno, maybe with a degree is rocket science, was tested and throw off, simply because they couldnt catch a football, maybe because they dont PLAY the friggin' game...
Thats fair is it?...
Evewn if they can explain the physics, they cant cath, there is the door?...
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Post by the light works on Jan 12, 2017 14:33:22 GMT
The ability to catch a football being how you get thrown off the show.... Question, if someone totally suited for the show, I dunno, maybe with a degree is rocket science, was tested and throw off, simply because they couldnt catch a football, maybe because they dont PLAY the friggin' game... Thats fair is it?... Evewn if they can explain the physics, they cant cath, there is the door?... I think in this case, the person who left came up short in other areas as well. whether she was really short in other areas or there was just the perception of it because everyone else was running over her, so she stuck to what they weren't already overlaoding isn't clear. |
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 12, 2017 15:39:20 GMT
Folks on here are more cynical than I am. I didn't see anything in the deflate gate myth that had any real bearing on who was/wasn't kicked off. As I said, from my perspective, it was nothing more than a way to show them having some fun OUTSIDE the shop, see what their chemistry with each other was. I do not feel that the results of them being able to catch or not, had any impact on if they stayed, it just wasn't important to the show. You also have to remember, they had 4 days (I believe I have the timeframe right) to do the build, there was a ton that we never saw, things that are left on the cutting room floor.
When I watched the episode, I was pleased that they appear to be doing their due diligence in really finding a new host to carry on in the spirit Adam, Jamie and crew left behind.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 13, 2017 9:05:31 GMT
If it depended on how they also did outer things and how the played a part with the rest of the cast, then maybe that deflategate thing is a red herring then?...
I sort of got the impression from this column that it was because of that the decision was made, and therefore I read wrong?..
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Post by the light works on Jan 13, 2017 15:37:03 GMT
If it depended on how they also did outer things and how the played a part with the rest of the cast, then maybe that deflategate thing is a red herring then?... I sort of got the impression from this column that it was because of that the decision was made, and therefore I read wrong?.. I can't speak for the others, but that was not what I was implying. I was merely implying that the "how consistently can you catch a football" segment was about as unscientific as anything I have seen on the show could be. |
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 14, 2017 8:17:15 GMT
Ditto. It had nothing to do with finding a capable builder who can apply some critical thinking skills and just came down to who can catch a football. It didn't look at whether the deflated football has a better grip or a longer hang time or anything like they tested with the helium footballs.
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Post by the light works on Jan 14, 2017 8:35:50 GMT
Ditto. It had nothing to do with finding a capable builder who can apply some critical thinking skills and just came down to who can catch a football. It didn't look at whether the deflated football has a better grip or a longer hang time or anything like they tested with the helium footballs. they had absolutely no objective benchmarks. just a bunch of people with no experience in catching a football, trying to make an assessment whether one was harder to catch than another. be a little bit like having somebody who has never driver before trying to determinewhether studded, or advanced compound, snow tires give better traction. |
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