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Post by ironhold on Jul 12, 2017 23:30:22 GMT
This one comes off of the discussion elsewhere about BBC America, the Armed Forces Network, and other such channels.
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Hypothetical situation -
It's an alternate reality that's more sci-fi than ours presently is.
Humanity is now beginning to colonize other celestial bodies, and you're someone (say, an engineer, military service member, scientist, contract worker, or dependent thereof) who has been sent to one such place to help get it up and running.
It's near enough to where even "slow" space travel is only a few hours between this place and Earth given the current engine tech, but far enough that it would take significant amounts of power to broadcast Terran radio and television live as it happens without any real lag or delay. To this end, the decision has been made to assign various tiers.
Material regarded as being of "significant" importance or for which there is "significant" demand will, indeed, be broadcast live as it happens, or only delayed as long as possible to finish another item that is slated for live broadcast. These would be things like the Olympics, the Super Bowl, and national elections for the nations involved in the effort.
The next tier is material that is regarded as being sufficiently popular or sufficiently important to provide to the public as a service, but for whatever reason a live broadcast isn't in the cards. Instead, the material is sent out with a lower amount of power, such that it's typically delayed about 4 - 6 hours. This would be things like awards shows, concerts, and other such broadcasts, as well as select Terran television or cable channels.
For everything else, the people behind the effort to provide entertainment to everyone simply requisition copies of whatever and then program them around the stuff that is live. In other words, something could air the next day or even the next week.
So, if you were in such a situation,
1. What material would you want to see live as it happens?
2. What material would you be willing to wait a few hours for?
3. What material would you be willing to wait a few days to see?
4. What material would drive you into space madness if you were stuck having to watch it?
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Post by the light works on Jul 13, 2017 3:30:33 GMT
This one comes off of the discussion elsewhere about BBC America, the Armed Forces Network, and other such channels. ** Hypothetical situation - It's an alternate reality that's more sci-fi than ours presently is. Humanity is now beginning to colonize other celestial bodies, and you're someone (say, an engineer, military service member, scientist, contract worker, or dependent thereof) who has been sent to one such place to help get it up and running. It's near enough to where even "slow" space travel is only a few hours between this place and Earth given the current engine tech, but far enough that it would take significant amounts of power to broadcast Terran radio and television live as it happens without any real lag or delay. To this end, the decision has been made to assign various tiers. Material regarded as being of "significant" importance or for which there is "significant" demand will, indeed, be broadcast live as it happens, or only delayed as long as possible to finish another item that is slated for live broadcast. These would be things like the Olympics, the Super Bowl, and national elections for the nations involved in the effort. The next tier is material that is regarded as being sufficiently popular or sufficiently important to provide to the public as a service, but for whatever reason a live broadcast isn't in the cards. Instead, the material is sent out with a lower amount of power, such that it's typically delayed about 4 - 6 hours. This would be things like awards shows, concerts, and other such broadcasts, as well as select Terran television or cable channels. For everything else, the people behind the effort to provide entertainment to everyone simply requisition copies of whatever and then program them around the stuff that is live. In other words, something could air the next day or even the next week. So, if you were in such a situation, 1. What material would you want to see live as it happens? 2. What material would you be willing to wait a few hours for? 3. What material would you be willing to wait a few days to see? 4. What material would drive you into space madness if you were stuck having to watch it? 1: there's pretty much nothing I can't live without for a few hours. (in fact, most of what I watch is DVR delayed, anyway.) so reserve this for things I NEED to know, by which I mean mission critical stuff. 4: reality TV |
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Post by mrfatso on Jul 13, 2017 5:56:16 GMT
I ) Saracens rugby matches, England Test matches, the Six Nations Championship, Britsh and Irish Lions matches.
2) Most others sports and news.
3) most other shows, I could live with a longer delay that is in a way how I grew up watching US shows in the UK we would get things like Starskey and Hutch on a 1 year-2 year delay.
4) just like LTW reality TV.
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 13, 2017 10:15:47 GMT
1, Breaking News, Live sports events, anything that warrants its own TV channel in todays tv, and special events, the kind where you roll out the dignitaries and stuffed shirts because its that important.
2, All of the above if there is a reasonable cause for delay, add in results for live voting of important elections.
3, If its something scientific where they need a few days to collect and interrogate the results.
4. When "everything" on normal TeeVee is cancelled for a sports event that I dont like, say, for instance, why, Wimbledon, because its [deleted] up all the regular teevee without need for an event that only has aq limited support base.
If you have the technology to have a channel "spare", like over here we have BBC 4 that doesnt start broadcasting to 8pm at night, why waste all that space on a channel that is free to view for everyone by not using it through the day to broadcast such things?.. and leave the usual BBC 1 for Not-a-fan-of-that-sport?..
Olympics, do I really want to see HOURS of woman twirling a streamer and falling about on a mat or solo synchronised swimming or a horse walking stupidly ministry of silly walks equine division what do the call it... "dressage"...
Erm, for me, no....
But when the BBC "Cant afford" to cover Formula 1 motor-sports, and indeed has lost all motor-sports to other channels, and excuse me how much do you pay for a bloody fortnight of tennis, which is now a whole bloody moth because of Queens and the Eastborne crud?... you can spend that but cant afford a couple of hours twice a month to show F1?..
When all of that replaces fully your own preferred TeeVee coverage, thats what drives me silly.
Especially when I start to run out of pre-recorded shows on the higher channels on my PVR?..
I sometimes have TeeVee on as bacground noise.
To have that filled with "OOOOfffff Whoooop weeeeee fraaaaaaa" grunting from a tennish match is just stoopid.
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Post by the light works on Jul 13, 2017 14:06:25 GMT
1, Breaking News, Live sports events, anything that warrants its own TV channel in todays tv, and special events, the kind where you roll out the dignitaries and stuffed shirts because its that important. 2, All of the above if there is a reasonable cause for delay, add in results for live voting of important elections. 3, If its something scientific where they need a few days to collect and interrogate the results. 4. When "everything" on normal TeeVee is cancelled for a sports event that I dont like, say, for instance, why, Wimbledon, because its [deleted] up all the regular teevee without need for an event that only has aq limited support base. If you have the technology to have a channel "spare", like over here we have BBC 4 that doesnt start broadcasting to 8pm at night, why waste all that space on a channel that is free to view for everyone by not using it through the day to broadcast such things?.. and leave the usual BBC 1 for Not-a-fan-of-that-sport?.. Olympics, do I really want to see HOURS of woman twirling a streamer and falling about on a mat or solo synchronised swimming or a horse walking stupidly ministry of silly walks equine division what do the call it... "dressage"... Erm, for me, no.... But when the BBC "Cant afford" to cover Formula 1 motor-sports, and indeed has lost all motor-sports to other channels, and excuse me how much do you pay for a bloody fortnight of tennis, which is now a whole bloody moth because of Queens and the Eastborne crud?... you can spend that but cant afford a couple of hours twice a month to show F1?.. When all of that replaces fully your own preferred TeeVee coverage, thats what drives me silly. Especially when I start to run out of pre-recorded shows on the higher channels on my PVR?.. I sometimes have TeeVee on as bacground noise. To have that filled with "OOOOfffff Whoooop weeeeee fraaaaaaa" grunting from a tennish match is just stoopid. would it surprise you to hear that the front row seats at a tennis match are now one of the loudest spectator locations in spectator sports. when taken in terms of peak volume, not average volume, of course. there are only two tennis players, while there are multiple F-1 cars. the tennis "grunt" is one of the loudest noises a human makes, unassisted. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 14, 2017 5:10:09 GMT
Whilst F1 cars have been reduced in noise recently when they went to 1600 cc engines.
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Post by wvengineer on Jul 21, 2017 17:39:43 GMT
If you look at the current trends in media, the trend towards TV is going to on-demand broadcasting. I can see something like that taken to a logical extreme.
A few things to consider. NASA is currently experimenting with using X-Rays as a type of very high speed radio it also has the advantage of being able to go though almost any obstruction and still have a very high bandwidth. The idea is they could have basically a gigabit data connection to a probe on the outer edge of the solar system. At that, the only thing you have to worry about is the time delay with the signal being limited to the speed of light. It still take a couple hours for the signal to get there. That is theoretically possible today or in the very near future.
For something like this, a civilization would want to setup something like this, but only with much more bandwidth. That really won't be too hard. You would basically setup something like a interplanetary version of NetFlix or Hulu. Content is produces on Earth (or other home planet) and then sent to media servers on mars or other remote planet. This media would then be streamed on demand though the local version of the internet. Even first run programing could be send this way and seen in "real time". The program would be produced and then uploaded ahead of time, and then when the program is "released" on both planets, the content is unlocked and they simply start allowing people to stream it. People on both planets can watch it first run at the same time. That is how they do it now. I wacted the Games of Thrones season 7 premier Sunday night though Amazon Prime/HBO. Amazon already had it loaded on their sever, the just don't let anyone watch it until 2100 hrs Eastern time.
If bandwidth is an issue, then media could be uploaded to the remote servers during non peak demand times.
The only think that would be a problem is actual live TV. That would only affect news, sporting events, and some artistic live performances. that would be subject to the same time delay as every other signal send from home to remote. I guess then the question is how much would that really affect people when every signal has a time delay? Unless you have a way around Realitivity in this story, nothing is truly live and I suspect people would get used to the lag.
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