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Post by silverdragon on Aug 14, 2017 9:24:13 GMT
I am reading with some disdain an article in a well respected news site, and I cant believe it has got any reason to exist.
The article is part of a series of "letters from", and its supposed to be informative of the views of other people from around the world.
This one is a little TOO personal in its views?.
Its a list of the reasons why a Certain person dislikes Dogs. That person aint famous for anything, but maybe will be known now as the one who has a downer on dogs.
But they feel fit to write that they do not respect ownership of dogs..
Say what now?.
Yeah, its that trivial that it is all about why one person dislikes dogs...
And yet they print it?.
I do not wish to advertise the exact article or where it is because I dont wish to make any argument against that article in any way and say that they are just plain WRONG to dislike dogs... they are not.
What is wrong is to take space in other peoples consciousness in that this person has many reasons to say you are wrong to own a dog.
You are free to dislike what the hell you want, as long as it doesnt affect others.
Substitute any pet you may or may not have known any one person in your life owning.
I dislike Snakes as pets, because of the risks involved.
I know one very good owner who owns a pet snake, or did own last I checked, I haver to admit I have no idea how long they live, and this was 20 yrs ago approx, but he kept at that time a Royal Burmese Python, name of "Soggy" ..
18ft long, docile temperament, even as much as to say Friendly, and the owner was incredibly sensible and good into how he kept her.
But I also know of a few damned ijurts who kept snakes, who shouldnt, and these are the same type of people who keep Spiders and other dangerous animals, in not too good conditions, just because they can.
But this is no reason for me to write an article outlining every single detractor from history that makes keeping them a pet a bad thing for every single person on earth...
I have had "Miss Interfering Twit" from a local primary school try to "Educate" me on the risks of keeping a Pond.
This was from a while back when my Kids were young and it was all the rage around then to state all ponds are dangerous to Kids and should be filled in "Becuz safety".
"Your child may fall in"
Yeah?.. hows that child going to get past the safety fence then?.
So the point of my post?.
I do not care a hill of beans over other peoples likes and dislikes when it comes to my own family life.
We Here, in THIS house, have the RIGHT to live the way we WANT to live, and as long as the risk assessment has been done and safety steps taken, such as training the dog that "Small humans" are not Food, and that my Kids know how to swim, and aint that stoopid as to fall in the pond anyway because thats the home for the Fish, then this is our house, and why do I need to listen to other people "Pontificating" on how they do not agree with our life choices.
Especially when their soap box diatribe os based on personal choices of their own that have exactly no legal standing, no moral basis, no ethnic reasons, no actual reason for being, other than they have decided to open mouth and make noise, becuz dey like da sound of their own voice.
So you dont like dogs?..
Heck I was always a Cat person, until I met my Wife, who had two cats at that time, but also a Dog.
We now have a Dog, more for the Kids than the adults, because they have owned him more than we have, and I amm happy with it.
Because THEY enjoy having him around.
I may have absolutely zero like of small rodents as pets, but, importantly, thats my own choice, and my own opinion, I understand that some other people like having Gerbils, Mice, Rats even, and to them, go with it, if its what you want enjoy.
As a Kid, I used to have a Rabbit...
I dont expect that all people would want to own a rabbit.
But more importantly, I do not expect them to write a full article in a newspaper or on a news site to decry the ownership of Rabbits the whole world over "As if it means something"...
It doesnt.
So why was this article there?.
The author admits that back in her Hometown there isnt many people that own Dogs, and it may be a cultural think.
So what?.
You do not live there any more, welcome to the "Rest of the world", where many of us keep pets, and many of them are Dogs.
We do not alter our ways to suit your personal opinion.
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Post by the light works on Aug 14, 2017 13:52:49 GMT
why is any person's opinion of any more importance than any other's?
certainly there may be one person's facts that are more factual than another's; but really, consider that you have just written an article to express your opinion that it was silly for her to write an article to express her opinion.
it would seem to be that being as how the article series in question is made by inviting people comong from other parts of the world to air their opinions, so that readers can be exposed to them, then if she feels that not liking the idea of pet dogs is a significant part of who she is, then she can write about it. maybe she felt it would help other people understand that not everybody wants to have an untrained hairball come pawing all over them while they are trying to walk in peace.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 15, 2017 7:12:43 GMT
Consider that Irony is my third language.
After Sarcasm, and English-spelt-sometimes-dyslexic.
So an article being Sarcastic Irony on the point that I have "dedicated" a question into the validity of another persons erroneous point of view has not escaped me?..
Yeah I know, "I get it", but, you have to wonder...
Not liking dogs?..
First world problem?. I believe this is the new-world phrase for aint we got bigger fish to fry.
And then, the "author" is from a third world country, sorry, "Developing nation"........
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Post by the light works on Aug 15, 2017 13:14:07 GMT
Consider that Irony is my third language. After Sarcasm, and English-spelt-sometimes-dyslexic. So an article being Sarcastic Irony on the point that I have "dedicated" a question into the validity of another persons erroneous point of view has not escaped me?.. Yeah I know, "I get it", but, you have to wonder... Not liking dogs?.. First world problem?. I believe this is the new-world phrase for aint we got bigger fish to fry. And then, the "author" is from a third world country, sorry, "Developing nation"........ so being from a developing nation makes her opinion even less important? I don't know about your newspaper, but mine publishes at least one opinion piece per issue, and usually several columns that are addressing "first world problems" at best. heck, before the previously regional paper decided they wanted to be a local paper plus internet famous, (which is to say I assume they still do it, but I am no longer a subscriber) they would have not just one, but three or four articles a week about what somebody thought of a movie. so how is that more important than what somebody thinks about dogs? heck, every day in newspapers across the country somebody writes an article about a paid sportsball squad, and how is that important? it isn't like anyone writes breathlessly about whether the garbage man is going to get all the bins emptied next week. so I guess my answer is she has no more importance than anyone places on her - but to somebody she was important enough to give a byline to. which isn't always a very high bar. |
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 16, 2017 8:19:40 GMT
No, wrong end of a 10 pointed stick there, her opinion on other more important matters is a hell of a lot more worthy than this is.
I am sure somewhere in her list of matters there is a view on how "The rest of the world" is "developing", as we are all developing nations if truth be told, but her view on that has a hell of a lot more worthyness of reading that just one about how she doesnt like flipping dogs.
Maybe she herself suffers from "Slow news days"?..
Either way, I cam away from the article, like so many other people who read it who do own dogs, thinking "So what", and then, another useless thought process, how the heck to I claim back the time it took me to read that drivel.
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Post by the light works on Aug 16, 2017 13:51:56 GMT
No, wrong end of a 10 pointed stick there, her opinion on other more important matters is a hell of a lot more worthy than this is. I am sure somewhere in her list of matters there is a view on how "The rest of the world" is "developing", as we are all developing nations if truth be told, but her view on that has a hell of a lot more worthyness of reading that just one about how she doesnt like flipping dogs. Maybe she herself suffers from "Slow news days"?.. Either way, I cam away from the article, like so many other people who read it who do own dogs, thinking "So what", and then, another useless thought process, how the heck to I claim back the time it took me to read that drivel. so don't read it, then. |
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 17, 2017 0:54:28 GMT
how the heck do I claim back the time it took me to read that The same way I'll get back the time it took me to read your post about being annoyed with reading an article about a person who was annoyed with dogs, if I were to venture a guess  |
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 17, 2017 6:44:58 GMT
how the heck do I claim back the time it took me to read that The same way I'll get back the time it took me to read your post about being annoyed with reading an article about a person who was annoyed with dogs, if I were to venture a guess .... Yes!, You got the point.... The irony of me getting annoyed at all and deciding to do "My own piece", therefore inviting exactly the same sort of criticism from others, for wasting their time... At this point, you may also wonder, did I even venture a guess that I am any more important than she was?.. Of Course Not, otherwise, my own piece would have been in national print. The whole point is that anyone would expect that a lengthy diatribe be considered "Important", and more-so, that anyone would be "Bothered" to take it seriously?. |
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Post by Lokifan on Aug 28, 2017 17:54:49 GMT
Everyone, and I mean everyone, has their "hobby horse". I don't know if anyone else remembers, but George Bush (the first one) once declared he hated broccoli. It was covered by the national news. It was a topic of discussion and analysis (sometimes tongue-in-cheek, sometimes not) by major news organizations. Seriously, when you look at it, WTF? Was this newsworthy, really? No. Should the "leader of the free world" have spent even a second stating his opinion on a vegetable, let alone following up on it? No. You may feel it's a waste of time to print her letter, and you may even be right. But, as long as we live in a free society, we all must deal with a lot of articles that are vitally important or trivially worthless to someone else. And now I've wasted even more time reading and replying to this thread, from one perspective. But what the heck? I wasn't doing anything else important at the time. And this whole forum was designed to entertain, not save the world or express only the proper opinion. No one is required to read anything on here (except the rules we all agreed on) and no one is required to write anything here. Now, everyone is human, and sometimes reading something can really get under your skin. Let that reaction go too far and you risk becoming a "snowflake". Opinions are like <probably censored term for a body part>--everyone's got one. On the other hand, while reading and responding to this thread, I heard lunch being prepared in the other room, so that's a plus... Worse comes to worst, you can always take a step back from the screen, extend your right hand to said screen, and give the two fingered salute (in England) or the one fingered salute (in the US), followed by any other add-on expression, such as the bilabial fricative, Bronx Cheer, or other colorful vocal demonstration (but not if small children, maiden aunts, or others of a delicate constitution are present).  |
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 29, 2017 6:28:17 GMT
So Again, You too have "Got the point".
What use creating a lengthy article if all it is is to waste digital ink and get a round of decries from most readers in that "Well that was a waste of time".
Are we wasting time here discussing this?.
Nope.
I myself am taking leaves out of my own book.
Self education.
I know I can at times leave long complicated replies, and therefore, I am "struggling" with the facts that maybe a lot of what I am trying to say is wasted on those who just skip through...
I MUST therefore find a way of condensing my posts.
And maybe not "Sweating the small stuff" when it comes to particular extreme polar minority matters.
I hate Brokoli as well... I cant even be bothered to learn how to spell it right from left?.
What do we learn?.
Maybe I need to learn what I fond important may not be so important to others.
The article its self is just a sign that maybe we all need to ignore the sign here and think on how maybe our own "extreme" views may bore others?.
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 29, 2017 11:30:05 GMT
So Again, You too have "Got the point". What use creating a lengthy article if all it is is to waste digital ink and get a round of decries from most readers in that "Well that was a waste of time". Are we wasting time here discussing this?. Nope. I myself am taking leaves out of my own book. Self education. I know I can at times leave long complicated replies, and therefore, I am "struggling" with the facts that maybe a lot of what I am trying to say is wasted on those who just skip through... I MUST therefore find a way of condensing my posts. And maybe not "Sweating the small stuff" when it comes to particular extreme polar minority matters. I hate Brokoli as well... I cant even be bothered to learn how to spell it right from left?. What do we learn?. Maybe I need to learn what I fond important may not be so important to others. The article its self is just a sign that maybe we all need to ignore the sign here and think on how maybe our own "extreme" views may bore others?. If that's what you got from all of this - some insight into yourself - then no. No time was wasted here. |
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Post by Lokifan on Aug 29, 2017 14:13:46 GMT
Further thoughts on the purpose and importance of posting here-- First of all, feel free to stop reading and skip to something more important, like researching the number of left handed Azerbaijani Presbyterians in Kathmandu.  Second of all, hanging out here has got me researching areas I've never been interested before, simply because my curiosity has been piqued by something I read here. Self education is a good thing. Third of all, one use of this place that I have found useful (and Oz mentions) is self insight. Every project I've worked on in engineering, I've eventually hit a really bad bug. Often they seem insurmountable, undetectable, and frankly have on occasion made me doubt the existence of a rational universe with physical laws. By this, I mean the kind of bug that makes you doubt 1+1=2. I have often found that in such a case, if I can pull someone into my office, sit them down, and start to explain to them what the problem is I am seeing, the mere action of having to explain something reveals the solution to my problem, often with my visitor not saying a word. It's usually an "AHA!" moment. Failing that moment, my visitor might say "Have you tried x?", and usually their fresh perspective reveals something I've overlooked. This place often serves that purpose. The mere act of writing a post on a subject clarifies an issue to myself. On rare occasions, the act of writing has challenged or even changed my position on something. If I didn't post here, I'd just bore my wife instead. Better for domestic harmony that I use you folk as my victims. |
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 29, 2017 21:42:34 GMT
This place often serves that purpose. The mere act of writing a post on a subject clarifies an issue to myself. On rare occasions, the act of writing has challenged or even changed my position on something. If I didn't post here, I'd just bore my wife instead. Better for domestic harmony that I use you folk as my victims. I know exactly what you mean. I don't know how many times I've spent hours on a post that either sent me hunting for more information, forced me to think differently and rewrite it or just flat out delete the whole thing and think things through all over again. Actually, I think I might have deleted about a third of all posts I've ever written here before they ever got submitted. The whole writing process has always been one of insight for me. For instance, if I start writing something in anger - say, to a family member or colleague - I'll go back, read it and start thinking, "Am I even remotely right about any of this, or have I completely misunderstood the entire situation?" For every page I've ever written for any purpose, I wouldn't be surprised to find that four or five pages worth of words were scrapped. |
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 31, 2017 6:45:31 GMT
I read somewhere recently one of those "Inspirational notices" that people tend to put up above the desk, or as a tag line, etc, This one read.:- "I could agree with you, but, then both of us would be wrong" Screen-wipe please?. Thats one of the most sarcastic but not nasty ways of saying "We have to agree to disagree" that I have read recently. Being on this forum, I have placed my thoughts in a place where they can be disagreed with and left at that, neither of us HAS to " win" to have a valid point of view, and we both can be right but from different directions, or we can have polar views on something, but, deep down, we would all still be happy to stand our round when we all meet up. Not only that, by opposing, we can bring fresh new previously unthought ideas to the forum, some that we may not have considered before. [And in that, put the word "Unthought" into the dictionary.] The number of left handed Azerbaijani Presbyterians in Kathmandu?.. exactly approximately [there are two words you dont see together much do you?.] 2,361 as of today, but as it is a transit camp for a lot of expeditions, the party leaving at 6am may have left already, so take a few dozen off that number..... Please dont ask how I know, "Its complicated"?... The art of writing here has educated me in the way to hold a discussion instead of an argument, and the ability to invite correction on a point of view or belief, and welcome those corrections, because the art of discussion MUST be an act of learning. This forum has also taught me that Duckduckgo.com is man's best friend... other search engines are available, but DudDuck doesnt track you... The internet is a wonderful education tool. Using it is a bit like catching fish... anyone can learn to catch fish, but it depends on what you do with the fish afterwards?. This forum keeps me sane, because it allows me to talk with educated intelligent people around the world "Just like me", who dont see just an engine, but see the complicated mechanics inside as well. But most of all, this forum, has taught me that being honest is available. And Valid. I dont know but I have a good idea is a valid starting point to "learn", and is encouraged, and the most stupid question is the one you didnt ask. We dont have to be anyone at all to be here, and we dont have to know anything to join in, because, we ask questions, and asking is "science" in its own way, because the answer will not be "Your telling me you dont know" condescending, its the "I can give you the quick or the short answer, which one you want?." I am good at the long answer?..  Editing posts, I do that after I post the first one more times than is often necessary, much to correct unseen typo's in the first edit, some times to "see" the posted article has the right links in it, and sometimes to completely start again, because I realise it doesnt make sense. I suspect the same from anyone, so, All articles on here posted in the last 5-10 mins, I see as "Rough" or first edition, liable to be in the edit by the time I get there. |
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Post by the light works on Aug 31, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
I read somewhere recently one of those "Inspirational notices" that people tend to put up above the desk, or as a tag line, etc, This one read.:- "I could agree with you, but, then both of us would be wrong" Screen-wipe please?. Thats one of the most sarcastic but not nasty ways of saying "We have to agree to disagree" that I have read recently. Being on this forum, I have placed my thoughts in a place where they can be disagreed with and left at that, neither of us HAS to " win" to have a valid point of view, and we both can be right but from different directions, or we can have polar views on something, but, deep down, we would all still be happy to stand our round when we all meet up. Not only that, by opposing, we can bring fresh new previously unthought ideas to the forum, some that we may not have considered before. [And in that, put the word "Unthought" into the dictionary.] The number of left handed Azerbaijani Presbyterians in Kathmandu?.. exactly approximately [there are two words you dont see together much do you?.] 2,361 as of today, but as it is a transit camp for a lot of expeditions, the party leaving at 6am may have left already, so take a few dozen off that number..... Please dont ask how I know, "Its complicated"?... The art of writing here has educated me in the way to hold a discussion instead of an argument, and the ability to invite correction on a point of view or belief, and welcome those corrections, because the art of discussion MUST be an act of learning. This forum has also taught me that Duckduckgo.com is man's best friend... other search engines are available, but DudDuck doesnt track you... The internet is a wonderful education tool. Using it is a bit like catching fish... anyone can learn to catch fish, but it depends on what you do with the fish afterwards?. This forum keeps me sane, because it allows me to talk with educated intelligent people around the world "Just like me", who dont see just an engine, but see the complicated mechanics inside as well. But most of all, this forum, has taught me that being honest is available. And Valid. I dont know but I have a good idea is a valid starting point to "learn", and is encouraged, and the most stupid question is the one you didnt ask. We dont have to be anyone at all to be here, and we dont have to know anything to join in, because, we ask questions, and asking is "science" in its own way, because the answer will not be "Your telling me you dont know" condescending, its the "I can give you the quick or the short answer, which one you want?." I am good at the long answer?.. Editing posts, I do that after I post the first one more times than is often necessary, much to correct unseen typo's in the first edit, some times to "see" the posted article has the right links in it, and sometimes to completely start again, because I realise it doesnt make sense. I suspect the same from anyone, so, All articles on here posted in the last 5-10 mins, I see as "Rough" or first edition, liable to be in the edit by the time I get there.  |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 1, 2017 8:22:14 GMT
?..  what are you trying to say TLW?... |
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Post by the light works on Sept 1, 2017 13:49:42 GMT
?.. what are you trying to say TLW?... firefox judges... |
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 22, 2018 8:44:46 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jan 22, 2018 19:29:15 GMT
she didn't do anything wrong in making her business proposal. he didn't do anything wrong in declining it. when I was dabbling in the music field, I asked a guitar string manufacturer about a product endorsement. they turned it down. the correct response is to move on. and I suspect that is where my response differed, or I would never have heard about this girl you mention. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 22, 2018 20:08:58 GMT
I notice she believes she singlehandedly influenced Universal Studios Orlando Resort's bottom line.
addendum: now I'm curious what the inn's vacancy rate is, and whether she "reached out" to every hotel in the area she wanted to travel to, or just to the one. I'm suggesting more and more that the proprietor gave her the same response that I give people who promise me they can make my phone ring more: "I don't WANT my phone to ring more, I've got all the business I can handle and then some"
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what are you trying to say TLW?...