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Post by OziRiS on Jun 1, 2015 15:31:04 GMT
Among my many duties at the local newspaper, I also work as one of the couriers. I rate the radio on my car as a piece of emergency equipment. Not only does the music help keep me awake at night when I'm driving (let's just say that my family isn't keen on letting me "sleep all day" even though I should), several local radio stations have partnered with various local news channels to broadcast weather reports & breaking news announcements. It may slow me down on occasion when I have to go through the dial (stations keep fading in and out), but I'd say that "awake and alert, if occasionally cruising through the frequencies" is better than "on schedule but slowly nodding off". For your specific situation, wrapping your car around a lamp post halfway through your route because you've fallen asleep at the wheel would certainly result in a serious reduction in productivity for the rest of the night.
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Post by the light works on Jun 1, 2015 15:53:32 GMT
and I don't have any guesses how to do it, but you REALLY need to enforce to your family that they need to allow you a proper amount of sleep. the irritable grouch in me would suggest waking them up when you go to bed to tell them what time they are to let you sleep until.
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Post by ironhold on Jun 1, 2015 18:43:35 GMT
It's the dire mismatch in schedules.
My parents are "early birds", and the family animals have adopted their schedule. Thing is, the period of time in which they wake up is usually when my body is still trying to sleep.
On a good day, I can scrounge up about 6 - 8 hours of total sleep: 2 - 4 at night, and the rest during the course of the day.
Saturdays are the worst for me, however. The family animals usually start wanting attention at 5 AM, and so come to me because my parents are "sleeping in". Because I'm having to force my schedule to match my parents' schedule on Saturdays, it's as late as 2 AM on Sunday morning before I can get back to bed after making time for my stuff.
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Post by the light works on Jun 1, 2015 18:59:08 GMT
It's the dire mismatch in schedules. My parents are "early birds", and the family animals have adopted their schedule. Thing is, the period of time in which they wake up is usually when my body is still trying to sleep. On a good day, I can scrounge up about 6 - 8 hours of total sleep: 2 - 4 at night, and the rest during the course of the day. Saturdays are the worst for me, however. The family animals usually start wanting attention at 5 AM, and so come to me because my parents are "sleeping in". Because I'm having to force my schedule to match my parents' schedule on Saturdays, it's as late as 2 AM on Sunday morning before I can get back to bed after making time for my stuff. should not matter. Mrs TLW and I are on such different sleep schedules that there are periods when we are essentially hot-bunking it. shw wakes up for supper and possibly some shared TV, and then I go to bed. she goes to bed as I am waking up. (I think she is awake midday, as well) the only issue is I tend to stay up later than I ordinarily would during those offsets.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 3, 2015 7:35:29 GMT
It's the dire mismatch in schedules. My parents are "early birds", and the family animals have adopted their schedule. Thing is, the period of time in which they wake up is usually when my body is still trying to sleep. On a good day, I can scrounge up about 6 - 8 hours of total sleep: 2 - 4 at night, and the rest during the course of the day. Saturdays are the worst for me, however. The family animals usually start wanting attention at 5 AM, and so come to me because my parents are "sleeping in". Because I'm having to force my schedule to match my parents' schedule on Saturdays, it's as late as 2 AM on Sunday morning before I can get back to bed after making time for my stuff. Shut the bloody door with them OUTSIDE the room. Do NOT match parents, talk to them, tell them what the problem is, if they are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem. You have been posting as an Adult on here for many years, you are, to all we can see, an Adult, and its about time your Parents got to realise that as well. I had a "nasty" with my Mum when I was 44 yrs old, I remember that because of the words I used, I am 44 yrs old Mum, not 14! She did keep trying to tell me how to live. "You should do this, you should do that" I was with my Wife and had been living with her for a few years by then, you think we cant manage to work out whats best for us all on our own?.. What is it with Women that they have to "baby" the menfolk?... My Wife has greater control over me than any other woman, I have spent more time living with her than I have with any other woman, and that includes my Mum. So why does my Mum think she needs to compete with my Wife on ordering me about?... I am an Adult you know?... My Wife does not "control" me any more than I control her. We have family, and that has its own responsibilities.... So why am I saying this?.. because even now, my Mum tries now and again to "Control" my life, and she has no reason. Its annoying.... But I aint on my own. I know from bitter experience that other Mums try to control their kids throughout their life, and how much that annoys them... Past of my work as Barman is to listen to people telling me how (cr@p) their day has been and sympathise with them. Much of it is dealing with Parents. The conclusion is that you have to take control of your own life, when you are an Adult, and the earlier you do it the better...But have some respect. The idea is to work together, as a family. If your Mum and Dad cant allow you your own work schedule, its time to move out. As a parent of my own Near-Adults, I have to worry. Yep, I have HUGE 6ft lads, I actually own Blokes, wandering about my house, I own three of them, and now they are getting to be actual Adults. The arguments on who does what and when are more of they should tell us what they are doing and when they will be home. Not so we can say NO!, not at all, thats not the idea, but if they intend to come in at 3am "on a school night", when everyone else is in bed, and wake the whole house up by banging about, we are going to be NOT amused at all, and will probably hand them a boot at high speed aimed at the back of their head, overhand, fast-bowled cricket style.... Out house rules say that waking people up is a crime, so weekends are the perfect time for late nights, not during the week, especially when I have to be up a couple of hours later anyway for my own work. I get in a Silly-O-clock of the morning myself?.. Yes, and do you hear me? No. I have learnt the art of quiet, I come in silently, close doors slowly, and scare the hell out the the kid making himself a brews "Make me one as well" Where the (beep) did you come from?... They do not hear me letting myself in. Kids on the other hand a door isnt closed unless its slammed?... And they wake their brothers up, they share a room (their choice). My own kids wont have to live the way I tell them, they will stick to house rules, but, if their work requires them to work silly hours, we will fit them in somehow. Rules can be changed when needs must... If that means they get the spare room to sleep in, so be it. If that means we have another late night worker in the house, well, we are used to it anyway.
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Post by ironhold on Jun 3, 2015 14:43:02 GMT
The dog has continence issues due to a medical condition, and so when he's got to go out he has to go out.
He will mess on the floor, and so whoever is first up has to handle matters.
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Post by the light works on Jun 3, 2015 14:45:44 GMT
people who cannot close a door without shaking the wall it isn't attached to are one of my pet peeves. also guys who make me wonder how a guy half my weight can walk twice as loudly.
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Post by the light works on Jun 3, 2015 14:46:48 GMT
The dog has continence issues due to a medical condition, and so when he's got to go out he has to go out. He will mess on the floor, and so whoever is first up has to handle matters. hence your parents taking steps to ensure YOU are the first up?
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Post by mrfatso on Jun 3, 2015 15:47:03 GMT
As Silverdragon and LTW say it does seem from this post and many others you have made Ironhold that your parents expect you to do a lot for your family, without making any allowances for the fact you also have to work hard at your job too.
It seems to me it is a little unfair for them not to look after the dog and let you sleep after working until 2am. There are two things to do either sit down and have an honest conversation about it or start to look for a place to live, may be if you cannot afford to live in your own place look for a house share.
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Post by OziRiS on Jun 3, 2015 18:55:17 GMT
Not that I don't want to help Ironhold with his problems (if I could in any way, I'd gladly do it), but this is sliding severely off topic, so could we possibly do that somewhere else, so the MB researchers won't have to sift through all these posts to find useful information?
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Post by srmarti on Oct 28, 2015 4:14:09 GMT
and I don't have any guesses how to do it, but you REALLY need to enforce to your family that they need to allow you a proper amount of sleep. the irritable grouch in me would suggest waking them up when you go to bed to tell them what time they are to let you sleep until. 4 I recall a 3rd shift technician having this problem with friends calling him while he was trying to sleep. His solution was to call them from work during his lunch break. About 4:00 am.
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Post by srmarti on Oct 28, 2015 4:21:24 GMT
Not that I don't want to help Ironhold with his problems (if I could in any way, I'd gladly do it), but this is sliding severely off topic, so could we possibly do that somewhere else, so the MB researchers won't have to sift through all these posts to find useful information? OK I just read further down... It's been a while anyway. Maybe everything has been said already.
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Post by the light works on Oct 28, 2015 5:37:55 GMT
Not that I don't want to help Ironhold with his problems (if I could in any way, I'd gladly do it), but this is sliding severely off topic, so could we possibly do that somewhere else, so the MB researchers won't have to sift through all these posts to find useful information? OK I just read further down... It's been a while anyway. Maybe everything has been said already. still a good story.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 28, 2015 8:32:40 GMT
Thing to "Punt" this tread back up. None of us like a ticking clock over us, but a Radio that does an every-so-often time check?... I am working at the moment with a friend on a project in his workshop... I knows how to use the router, we are making him a router bench, thats the kind that you flip your router upside down with the blades upwards on a lift to change heights (and change blades...) and its going to make his life easier... We are also making it a storage cupboard to keep all his heads/blades/bits and machinery in, he has one or two (Or three or even four if his wife isnt counting...) and lots of blades, which we intend to use as weight to keep the thing stable, along with lockable wheels. He has the Radio on. Radio TWO.... (He is of the age where he likes the older music...) He uses that as his time piece, and when a certain presenter finishes his set, he goes for lunch.... He doesnt need no damn clock, he works to the radio..... Not having a clock staring at you?.. well, you work to your own pace, we will finish when its finished, and thats going to be when its "Right"
He already has a saw bench he hand made, and its big, heavy, durable, will outlast his grandson, and is the epitome of well made.
My prize for helping him?.. we are making TWO. The second one is for me. I am providing all the hardware myself of course, and we are experimenting. I have a two-ton trolley jack for use of lifting a car with... I have had it kicking about the place with nowhere to store it properly. I have decided to use THAT as the lift mechanism under my own router... The lift its self can be locked in place, and the jack slid out?.. so I have a neat storage locker for the car jack, and a pneumatic lift on my router bench, that allows me to use a heavier router with ease.... priceless?...
(He is using a traditional wind-up scissor jack as his lift mechanism.)
This isnt "Work", its a pleasure, and having a radio in the background, we can laugh along and join in on the better tunes....
So does it help?... In productivity, no. But it sure makes the workplace a better place to work in.
Can a study be done into worker happiness with or without a radio?...
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Post by the light works on Oct 28, 2015 14:18:08 GMT
Thing to "Punt" this tread back up. None of us like a ticking clock over us, but a Radio that does an every-so-often time check?... I am working at the moment with a friend on a project in his workshop... I knows how to use the router, we are making him a router bench, thats the kind that you flip your router upside down with the blades upwards on a lift to change heights (and change blades...) and its going to make his life easier... We are also making it a storage cupboard to keep all his heads/blades/bits and machinery in, he has one or two (Or three or even four if his wife isnt counting...) and lots of blades, which we intend to use as weight to keep the thing stable, along with lockable wheels. He has the Radio on. Radio TWO.... (He is of the age where he likes the older music...) He uses that as his time piece, and when a certain presenter finishes his set, he goes for lunch.... He doesnt need no damn clock, he works to the radio..... Not having a clock staring at you?.. well, you work to your own pace, we will finish when its finished, and thats going to be when its "Right" He already has a saw bench he hand made, and its big, heavy, durable, will outlast his grandson, and is the epitome of well made. My prize for helping him?.. we are making TWO. The second one is for me. I am providing all the hardware myself of course, and we are experimenting. I have a two-ton trolley jack for use of lifting a car with... I have had it kicking about the place with nowhere to store it properly. I have decided to use THAT as the lift mechanism under my own router... The lift its self can be locked in place, and the jack slid out?.. so I have a neat storage locker for the car jack, and a pneumatic lift on my router bench, that allows me to use a heavier router with ease.... priceless?... (He is using a traditional wind-up scissor jack as his lift mechanism.) This isnt "Work", its a pleasure, and having a radio in the background, we can laugh along and join in on the better tunes.... So does it help?... In productivity, no. But it sure makes the workplace a better place to work in. Can a study be done into worker happiness with or without a radio?... it comes close to an insoluble equation, because it has multiple variables that don't have consistent values. a radio won't even make all workers consistently happier.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 29, 2015 7:43:29 GMT
Especially if your the owner of the radio and a certain Canadian "kid" starts wailing and your mate has a heavy hammer in his hand?...
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Post by mrfatso on Oct 29, 2015 20:31:08 GMT
Especially if your the owner of the radio and a certain Canadian "kid" starts wailing and your mate has a heavy hammer in his hand?... Bieber on Radio Two, Fluffy would be spinning.
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Post by wvengineer on Oct 30, 2015 2:03:19 GMT
At least for me, my commute is 35 minutes each way and I tend to do best with talk shows*. Music is alright once in a while, but I tend to get bored with it. For me, interesting talk is a good way to stay awake and stay calm for a drive.
* By talk shows, I listen to podcasts. I go for special interest shows like ham radio shows, or NPR's shows like Planet Money, or old reruns of Car Talk. I don't do politics or sports.
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Post by the light works on Oct 30, 2015 2:27:01 GMT
At least for me, my commute is 35 minutes each way and I tend to do best with talk shows*. Music is alright once in a while, but I tend to get bored with it. For me, interesting talk is a good way to stay awake and stay calm for a drive. * By talk shows, I listen to podcasts. I go for special interest shows like ham radio shows, or NPR's shows like Planet Money, or old reruns of Car Talk. I don't do politics or sports. if I'm driving, I tend to listen to whatever's on. - within reason. I tend to favor classic rock, but interesting talk is fine, too.
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Post by GTCGreg on Oct 30, 2015 3:49:57 GMT
I don't think I've listened to the radio in years. I have bluetooth links on our car radios. I either listen to my own collection of music on my phone while driving, or just go with Pandora. I have a number of different musical genre stations set up on Pandora and just pick the style of music I'm in the mood for. Got to say, I think Pandora is one of the greatest things to come along since FM.
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