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Post by PK on Mar 6, 2013 17:01:15 GMT
I've never been charged sales tax on itunes. Not for music, books or apps.
Still hate it. Particularly the latest version, which is absolutely horrible.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 6, 2013 18:22:54 GMT
Because I have an Apple TV unit, my Netflix subscription is billed through the iTunes store each month. They do charge me 0.50 tax.
Did I mention that I HATE iTunes?
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Post by watcher56 on Mar 6, 2013 18:26:04 GMT
Did I mention that I HATE iTunes? Needed to put some pictures on the wife's iPod Touch the other day. Plugged it into my laptop (instead of hers), and started trying to figure out how to do it. Seems like the only way is to select the mobile device, and open the photo tab. Then tell it what folder you want to transfer to the iPod and the click on 'Sync'. Problem is that it started to 'Sync' (whatever this term means to Apple) everything on *my* computer to her iPod. My computer does not in any way represent what should be on her iPod. Managed to stop it before too much damage was done. Just had to remove a couple of 'app' icons that had transferred that she does not use. The pictures actually did transfer, so at least that was done. Why can't I just plug the iPod into the USB port, and copy/paste from my computer into the appropriate folder on the iPod like every other rational device allows? I really think those engineers at Apple have been spending too much time with the funny smoke. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 6, 2013 18:39:10 GMT
Had something similar but even more scary happen with iTunes. I wanted to update the OS on my wife's iPhone but it wouldn't let me do it over WiFi because it said the phone didn't have enough available memory. My son suggested just updating the OS by plugging the phone into my computer and using iTunes. So that's what I did. Everything seemed to be OK until about three days later when my wife told me she keeps getting all my text messages on her phone. Sure enough, iTunes duplicated my account on here phone. Every time I would send or receive a text message through the Apple iMessage service, she would get a copy on her phone.
It finally took me about two hours to resolve that and get her phone off my account.
Did I mention that I HATE iTunes?
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Post by ironhold on Mar 7, 2013 6:37:18 GMT
Is it possible that the price listed doesn't include sales tax? They just got back to me, and it turns out that this was the *exact* problem - they don't list the price w/ sales tax up front, and by their own admission the tax on the receipt they give you is just a rough estimate. Guess that means I'm going to have to recalculate the budget I had in place for purchases. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 7, 2013 7:19:14 GMT
As Cyber said.....
... in the UK its known as VAT.
Also, is there some form of shipping costs attached....
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Post by ironhold on Mar 7, 2013 15:51:13 GMT
Digital download.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 7, 2013 16:08:28 GMT
Is it possible that the price listed doesn't include sales tax? They just got back to me, and it turns out that this was the *exact* problem - they don't list the price w/ sales tax up front, and by their own admission the tax on the receipt they give you is just a rough estimate. Guess that means I'm going to have to recalculate the budget I had in place for purchases. As I understand it, in the US the price listed for goods often doesn't include sales tax - something that often catches British visitors out since under British (and for that matter I think EU) law the price shown has to include any and all taxes. If I'm also understanding US sales taxes correctly, each state can place sales taxes on those items it likes and set whatever level it wants to - within reason. This would be why Amazon probably can't tell you exactly how much tax you'd have to pay on some items - it's likely to differ based on which state you happen to live in. |
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Post by PK on Mar 7, 2013 16:36:08 GMT
If I'm also understanding US sales taxes correctly, each state can place sales taxes on those items it likes and set whatever level it wants to - within reason. This would be why Amazon probably can't tell you exactly how much tax you'd have to pay on some items - it's likely to differ based on which state you happen to live in. And just to make it more confusing for visitors, each county or city within a state can tack on additional sales taxes (in California it has to be with voter approval), meaning that at the local Kmart (city) you pay 8.5%, but go across the street to the tire store (county) and it's 7.5%. |
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Post by ironhold on Mar 7, 2013 16:44:34 GMT
They just got back to me, and it turns out that this was the *exact* problem - they don't list the price w/ sales tax up front, and by their own admission the tax on the receipt they give you is just a rough estimate. Guess that means I'm going to have to recalculate the budget I had in place for purchases. As I understand it, in the US the price listed for goods often doesn't include sales tax - something that often catches British visitors out since under British (and for that matter I think EU) law the price shown has to include any and all taxes. If I'm also understanding US sales taxes correctly, each state can place sales taxes on those items it likes and set whatever level it wants to - within reason. This would be why Amazon probably can't tell you exactly how much tax you'd have to pay on some items - it's likely to differ based on which state you happen to live in. Believe it or not, not including the sales tax can actually lead to *greater* transparency - if the customer knows in advance to expect one. Modern cash registers in the US are designed to print both the tax rate and the total taken for tax at the bottom of the receipt, allowing people to see in print what the established tax rate is. In contrast, whenever a VAT is proposed here in the US, the prospect is raised that someone - the government, the retailer, or the supplier - will jack up the price / tax rate and let the other two take the blame. But like I said, though: this all assumes that the customer knows there will even be some sort of sales tax in the first place. Nothing was mentioned on the actual purchase page itself, and IIRC the receipts I was getting from previous purchases didn't clearly mention it (if they did, I missed it). |
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 7, 2013 16:54:15 GMT
That is just an excuse. The REAL reason people object to VAT in the US is because it would remove power from the State to the Federal government.
I've always been somewhat amused by the 'One country under God' line. Since it seems that the United States are only united in their desire to have as little to do with each other as possible.
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Post by mrfatso on Mar 7, 2013 17:24:09 GMT
[ In contrast, whenever a VAT is proposed here in the US, the prospect is raised that someone - the government, the retailer, or the supplier - will jack up the price / tax rate and let the other two take the blame. [/quote] AS Cybermortis says that's just an excuse, when the rate of VAT is well know, 20% at the moment, people know what the price increase should be. If and when the Chancellor announces a new VAT rate, the annual Budget is soon, if retailors tried that type of shenanigans the Newspapers, Radio and TV consumer shows soon pick up on it. Though there are some ridiculous things to do with VAT in this country, with certain exclusions that apply, a case in point is Jaffa Cakes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_CakesIf they were cakes then they were a basic food stuff and Tax exempt, if biscuits covered in Chocolate have VAT added, the story is the manufactures went to court with a giant version to prove their point, but that may be a myth. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 7, 2013 17:54:02 GMT
That is just an excuse. The REAL reason people object to VAT in the US is because it would remove power from the State to the Federal government. I've always been somewhat amused by the 'One country under God' line. Since it seems that the United States are only united in their desire to have as little to do with each other as possible. If you read our Constitution, the purpose of the Federal government was only to administer the things that the individual States could not do on their own, such as national defense, negotiating with foreign countries and handling disputes between the States. Things have changed a lot since then, and not for the better. EDIT: Did I mention that I HATE iTunes? |
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Post by blazerrose on Mar 8, 2013 2:24:48 GMT
Another great download service is emusic - they have a lot of out of print music and indie artists. I have a $9.99 plan, and can sometimes download 4 full albums a month. DRM free, playable on any player.
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Post by User Unavailable on Mar 8, 2013 3:32:18 GMT
Sales tax and ordering online in the U.S. - it has always been my experience, that if the business I am ordering from does not have a facility in the state of Kentucky, I have never paid a sales tax for an online order. For example, I often order from Sportsmanship Guide which is solely based in Minnesota. I've never paid a sales tax on orders from them. I sometimes order from US Calvarly (also known as The Cav Store), which is headquarted in Radcliffe, Kentucky, outside Fort Knox. I always get charged sales tax by them. Today, I placed an order with Tandy Leather (no idea where its headquartered without looking), which has a store in Louisville, Kentucky. I was charged Kentucky sales tax, even though my order was processed and shipped from Nashville, TN. Though according to this article, things may be in the (slow) process of changing. www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/sales-tax-internet-29919.html |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 8, 2013 4:49:00 GMT
If the company you are ordering from has a physical office in your state, you are required to pay your state sales tax even it the item is ordered and shipped from another state. A number of states are starting to enforce a "user tax" on anything you buy out of state even if the company has no offices in the state. In fact, in my state of Illinois, if you are traveling out of state, say on vacation, and you purchase something and even pay the local sales tax, if you bring that item back into Illinois, you are required to pay the Illinois use tax. They are even sending out threatening letters trying to collect this bogus tax.
All of this is going to be changing as the Feds are trying to also get their fingers in the pie.
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Post by c64 on Mar 8, 2013 13:40:59 GMT
You know that you can also buy music from Amazon? I use them a LOT for buying music. I never use iTunes for anything except trying to download my music to my iPhone. And it doesn't really do that very well. Did I mention that I HATE iTunes? I have no iAnything at all. Also no twitter, no facebook, no socoal media at all - except ICQ and skype. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 8, 2013 15:17:09 GMT
I have no iAnything at all. Also no twitter, no facebook, no socoal media at all - except ICQ and skype. And I'm sure you're better off for it. I also don't "do" the social media thing. I do have a couple of Apple products. They do make some quality stuff, it's just the Apple attitude that sucks. Did I mention that I HATE iTunes? |
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Post by c64 on Mar 8, 2013 15:25:53 GMT
, it's just the Apple attitude that sucks. Did I mention that I HATE iTunes? You can also blame them for the cr***** USB stuff we have to use. They have demanded over a dollar for each Fire Wire port so the rest of the world had to come up with USB in a hurry. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 25, 2013 9:31:07 GMT
The Tax has to be notified, as in, it has to be CLEARLY stated inc or ex VAT, and it has to have a clear notification somewhere of what the price is with VAT included..... At Local rates. itunes, I dont have, but I do have a neat piece of homebrew software that can remove itunes and all associated crud from a computer that works from a USB drive and leaves no traces behind anywhere... its not commercially available unfortunately, as its extensively prejudice against itunes. I dont "Social media" anything, if I want people to know, I tell them direct. Heck I only just got this Email thing?.... Text?... it takes me less time to phone the person and tell them than text does... I aint the fastest at that stuff... the only time I actually really use TXT is sending and receiving postal addresses for work?... C64, that thing with Fire-wire... I didnt know (What?..?   ?.) that Fire-wire was owned by apple?... You learn something new every day... I have firewire hardware (and ports) , but its an old Cam-Corder, and its not an apple thing,..... |
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