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Post by privatepaddy on Feb 13, 2013 15:57:43 GMT
I don't think you can get into trouble after 25 years for talking about old weapons One such system was the Australian "Ikara anti submarine missile torpedo system. It employed a rocket (cruse) launcher and a US type 44 torpedo. It allowed older type frigates (type 12) to attack submarines at a distance when they could not carry helicopters as is the norm now.
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Post by privatepaddy on Feb 14, 2013 12:20:00 GMT
USS Newport News
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Post by privatepaddy on Feb 15, 2013 12:45:58 GMT
A WWII tank show
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Post by oscardeuce on May 12, 2013 12:21:53 GMT
Learning to reload for an 1884 Springfield Trapdoor Rifle
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Post by privatepaddy on May 14, 2013 13:23:13 GMT
Learning to reload for an 1884 Springfield Trapdoor Rifle Presumably this is the weapon you refer to.
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Post by oscardeuce on May 14, 2013 21:37:56 GMT
Yes it is. Just cast about 20 405 gr hallow base bullets. Need to find black powder then I will be good to go. I also have my dad's .45 flintlock Kentucky Rifle.
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Post by oscardeuce on May 17, 2013 2:03:49 GMT
Yes and aKentucky long rifle flintlock
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Post by mrfatso on Jun 6, 2013 15:40:05 GMT
Saw the same Matilda Tank, Tiger Tank, etc., later that year at TankFest 2012, also at Bovington, a couple of months later.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 7, 2013 12:36:43 GMT
Hope no one minds but I changed the name of this thread. @ mrfatso I enjoyed visiting the museum and being surrounded by the icons of tank warfare I grew up with. I had hoped to revisit this year but circumstances have changed and revisiting the UK this year has become impossible.
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Post by mrfatso on Jun 7, 2013 16:17:13 GMT
That`s a shame, I hope that you have the chance to visit again once those circumstances have changed for the better. Pretty Much the same feeling here, I was even able to show my Mother the type of ARVE her uncle was in when he was killed I 1944.
Did you visit the near by Monkey World when you where in the area, it was funny for me watching a group of chimps and hearing Challenger Tanks go past just passed the Hedge line.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 8, 2013 9:26:44 GMT
That`s a shame, I hope that you have the chance to visit again once those circumstances have changed for the better. Pretty Much the same feeling here, I was even able to show my Mother the type of ARVE her uncle was in when he was killed I 1944. Did you visit the near by Monkey World when you where in the area, it was funny for me watching a group of chimps and hearing Challenger Tanks go past just passed the Hedge line. No, not really into monkeys I believe we did go to Lulworth cove after, they have/had a place where the sea came through an eroded opening in some rocks. I was hoping to get some spectacular photos but the sea was like a mill pond. So my wife and aunt enjoyed some Ice cream cones, down in the bay area, while my oldest daughter and I went exploring.
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Post by the light works on Jun 8, 2013 15:57:34 GMT
It took be a lot of searching to find this clip - my family used to vacation at Fort Stevens state park regularly, and I remember this film from my youth.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 8, 2013 16:38:33 GMT
It took be a lot of searching to find this clip - my family used to vacation at Fort Stevens state park regularly, and I remember this film from my youth. Take 2 take 1 disappeared. In the discovery military forum I did some research in a thread "Bismark V North/South Carolina" WWII fast modern Battleship. Nine 16 inch 45 Cal Guns/Rifles, the Bismark with 8 15 inch 52 Cal guns out ranged her. With the demise of the forums much was lost. They never met in combat as any student of the period would tell you, it was a Hypothetical. The thing that stood out to me was even with the best trained crews and despite the gunnery control system ie Royal Navy USS Navy or Kriegsmarine, the hit ratio was 10 or 11 percent. In fact the Bismark did not score a single hit on any Royal Navy unit prior to her imminent sinking/scuttling. From memory their were about 11 Battleship on Battleship engagements in WWII, hit ratios appeared from my research to hold to those figures. Shore batteries had a distinct disadvantage in an artillery duel. They were stationary, while Naval Units could manoeuvrer toward or away from the last fall of shot. I recall the KM Tirpitz in her operations in Norway had a brief engagement with Norwegian shore batteries.
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Post by mrfatso on Jun 11, 2013 9:53:32 GMT
No, not really into monkeys I believe we did go to Lulworth cove after, they have/had a place where the sea came through an eroded opening in some rocks. I was hoping to get some spectacular photos but the sea was like a mill pond Before this turns into a things to do in Dorset thread, that sounds like Durdle Door. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Durdle_Door_Overview.jpgIf you go east from Lulworth Cove, on days when the Army are not using it as a firing range, there`s a different coloured flag telling you when it`s safe or dangerous, Sundays and the school holidays mostly, towards Kimmeridge Cove, there is a Petrified Forest, that is pretty good. But to get back on topic, have you seen the story about the RAF Museum in Hendon paying for the lift of a Donier-17 "Flying Pencil" fuselage from the Goodwin Sands of the Kent coast? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22850596It happened yesterday and this and early this morning during slack water, when lifted the aircraft even had one of it`s tyres still inflated.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 11, 2013 11:40:47 GMT
It could have been Durdle but from that photo it looks further from the beach. No I hadn't seen the retrieval of the Dornier, our 24hr news cycle is full of local politics. I'll try to see it if/when I get back there.
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Post by the light works on Jun 11, 2013 13:21:24 GMT
WOW, some of the grease survived being immersed in water! [/sarcasm]
It's kind of a shame that some models of old warbirds were not preserved for posterity.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 12, 2013 3:26:34 GMT
WOW, some of the grease survived being immersed in water! [/sarcasm] It's kind of a shame that some models of old warbirds were not preserved for posterity. Without highlighting any one issue or overcomplicating the matter. I presume that after 6 years of bloody conflict which required the rebuilding of many cities in Germany, England, Poland ETC., the nostalgia factor wasn't there. The USS Enterprise CV6 for a while was the sole US aircraft carrier in the Pacific, was awarded the most Battle stars of any US unit at the time or perhaps since was scraped, one would have imagined that if any ship of that era should have became a museum it should have been her.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 13, 2013 5:58:42 GMT
And there is the problem... How do you "Mothball" a ship until its current technology passes beyond "Useful knowledge" to your enemies?...
Yes some of these ships should be museum pieces... I have no doubt that that is true.
.... but just where?... Any dock facility that has the space is being used. And the upkeep of the ship to prevent it deteriorating into scrap, who pays for that?...
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Post by the light works on Jun 13, 2013 13:48:37 GMT
I think Paddy is talking about the selection process, rather than saving all of them. preserve the SS hero with all its battle scars rather than the SS nobody.
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Post by privatepaddy on Jun 13, 2013 13:52:58 GMT
And there is the problem... How do you "Mothball" a ship until its current technology passes beyond "Useful knowledge" to your enemies?... Yes some of these ships should be museum pieces... I have no doubt that that is true. .... but just where?... Any dock facility that has the space is being used. And the upkeep of the ship to prevent it deteriorating into scrap, who pays for that?... There are currently 5 (?) Ex front-line combat US aircraft carriers as Museum ships. 4 Essex class and 1 Midway class. There are also a number of US Battleships serving as museum ships, the oldest being the USS Texas BB55 commissioned 1914, she laid down naval gunfire support at Normandy during the D-Day landings and one of the few remaining warships in service during both world wars to make it through to today. Museum ships are costly to maintain as are any other memorial to a nations sacrifice and history. The Essex class as well as the surviving Fast Battleships may have survived as units that may and in some cases did return from reserve to active service.
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