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Post by PK on May 3, 2013 22:40:04 GMT
I'd be willing to bet that, if they stiffened the steering wheel of the RC rig, they probably could better control a car while the truck is in motion. That's a common issue with their full-scale RC set ups, it seems. I think what would help more - particularly if you coupled the two - would be more isolation for the RC driver. Cut off his peripheral vision of the landscape (or lack thereof) going by in addition to the forward view. Heck, even a pair of glasses with those blinders on the sides would probably help. The sort you see mountain climbers wearing. |
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Post by OziRiS on May 3, 2013 22:48:22 GMT
I don't really think that was the problem. As Adam stated (and I could very well imagine), sitting in a moving vehicle while trying to remotely steer a different moving vehicle just messes up your senses completely. Your eyes are telling you one thing while the sensations in your body are telling you something else.
With some training it might work though. Probably just a question of getting used to blocking out the signals from your body and focusing completely on the remote vehicle. I bet that's easier said than done though.
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Post by breesfan on May 3, 2013 22:53:20 GMT
If Adam had issues with it then why didn't Jamie have issues with it when he did it?
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Post by OziRiS on May 3, 2013 22:56:54 GMT
Because when Jamie did it they'd already agreed to keep the truck parked because of Adam's experience earlier on. He was sitting still the whole time.
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Post by breesfan on May 3, 2013 23:02:30 GMT
Because when Jamie did it they'd already agreed to keep the truck parked because of Adam's experience earlier on. He was sitting still the whole time. That's right, I forgot about that. Thanks. ;D |
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Post by blazerrose on May 4, 2013 2:01:06 GMT
I think it was more a case of getting one set of information through peripheral vision and the other through the screen that messed Adam up. The RC worked great on the test drive.
I hope they keep using the Beast - that thing is rad!
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Post by OziRiS on May 4, 2013 12:29:01 GMT
Well, motion sickness is most often caused by visual input not corresponding with the motion (or lack thereof) felt by the body. A lot of people get car sick when they sit in a moving vehicle and stare at something stationary. If they're reading a book for example.
Same thing goes for being stationary while having the visual illusion of movement. That's happeneed to me while in a drive-in carwash. I'm sitting still, but with all the water and steam making everything fuzzy to look at and the brushes moving toward and past the car, the sensation is that it's the car that's moving and not the surroundings. All I can do to stop that feeling is block out the false input by focusing on something stationary or covering my eyes.
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Post by Antigone68104 on May 4, 2013 13:10:42 GMT
I think it was more a case of getting one set of information through peripheral vision and the other through the screen that messed Adam up. I agree. Kinesthesia (did I spell that right) shouldn't have been an issue, because the Beast and the RC car were both traveling in the same direction. I noticed that Jamie had cardboard covering the passenger window on his drive ... but that could have been to block sunglare on the monitor. I imagine most of you have already seen the video of Jamie taking a new VR rig out for a test run ( www.tested.com/tech/455063-jamie-hyneman-tests-oculus-rift-virtual-reality-goggles/). Something like that probably could have let them drive after the car; but it's probably too expensive to blow up with the car. |
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Post by the light works on May 5, 2013 0:53:18 GMT
my critiques:
1: lose the half ton bumper and move the rocket cradle up to the dashboard to get the center of thrust further forward.
2: build a ramp that the car won't be breaking through. C'mon, guys... PLYWOOD? I won't PARK a car on plywood, let alone hit it at 200 MPH.
3: block the suspension so you don't get compression effects when the car hits the ramp.
4: fire the rockets earlier, so the car has more velocity still under control, and the flight phase is more cruising than accelerating. having 12,000 pounds of thrust driving the car into the ground is cool, but doesn't get any distance.
(of course, this is for "replicate the effects" rather than for the bust)
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Post by OziRiS on May 5, 2013 1:10:31 GMT
I agree. Kinesthesia (did I spell that right) shouldn't have been an issue, because the Beast and the RC car were both traveling in the same direction. Roughly, yes. But not in exactly the same direction. In other words, when the Impala hit a bump and veered slightly off to one side, Adam didn't feel that effect in his body because Jamie was keeping the Beast straight. That discepancy between input, however slight it may be, is enough to at least delay Adam's reaction. I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm just saying it'll take some training to override the kinesthetic input and only react to the visual. Adam said it best himself. Quote: "Trying to drive the rocket car via the remote screen while the dump truck is moving, threw my sense of direction and steering completely out of lack. It's just... It's not feasible." End quote. |
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Post by the light works on May 5, 2013 1:13:29 GMT
I agree. Kinesthesia (did I spell that right) shouldn't have been an issue, because the Beast and the RC car were both traveling in the same direction. Roughly, yes. But not in exactly the same direction. In other words, when the Impala hit a bump and veered slightly off to one side, Adam didn't feel that effect in his body because Jamie was keeping the Beast straight. That discepancy between input, however slight it may be, is enough to at least delay Adam's reaction. I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm just saying it'll take some training to override the kinesthetic input and only react to the visual. Adam said it best himself. Quote: "Trying to drive the rocket car via the remote screen while the dump truck is moving, threw my sense of direction and steering completely out of lack. It's just... It's not feasible." End quote. and since it was ALSO not NECESSARY... |
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Post by OziRiS on May 5, 2013 1:16:12 GMT
Luckily, yes, since Grant did a great job with the RC unit.
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Post by blazerrose on May 5, 2013 3:57:32 GMT
Well, motion sickness is most often caused by visual input not corresponding with the motion (or lack thereof) felt by the body. A lot of people get car sick when they sit in a moving vehicle and stare at something stationary. If they're reading a book for example. That would be me. I can needlepoint in the car just fine because it's easy for me to put it down and look around, but I cannot read in the car. I sometimes have difficulty reading on airplanes if there's turbulence. Car washes I do ok because I watch the equipment. |
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Post by OziRiS on May 5, 2013 20:32:47 GMT
You're not alone with the reading part. I can't read in the car for more than a couple of minutes, before I have to look up and out of the windows. Which is why I'm most often the driver and not the passenger, 'cause my girlfriend does fine and then she can text away with all her friends and give me some quiet time on the long trips ;D
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on May 6, 2013 0:11:37 GMT
Here's a good question at this point:
Does the degree of carsickness you feel depend on what row of the car (Front, 2nd/middle, 3rd/back) you sit in?
I tend to feel the effects most if I'm stuck sitting in the third row.
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Post by blazerrose on May 6, 2013 1:24:51 GMT
For me, no. I get equally queasy regardless of seat. I just find it easier to sleep in the middle/back seat  Unless I'm driving, then I can drive all day with no problems. |
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Post by the light works on May 6, 2013 1:45:49 GMT
You're not alone with the reading part. I can't read in the car for more than a couple of minutes, before I have to look up and out of the windows. Which is why I'm most often the driver and not the passenger, 'cause my girlfriend does fine and then she can text away with all her friends and give me some quiet time on the long trips ;D my wife and I used to do "books on copilot" on long road trips. unless it was a winding road, she could read just fine. now she just sleeps. |
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Post by PK on May 9, 2013 15:08:59 GMT
Watched a bit of this episode again last night, and caught something I missed the first time around: At one point they had a clip of the JATO segment from the film "Darwin Awards" (the bit with David Arquette in a purple car with a JATO attached).
Which begs the question, why didn't they include a clip from the movie showing the two guys who sold him the rocket?
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Post by watcher56 on May 15, 2013 16:25:27 GMT
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Post by blazerrose on May 16, 2013 1:32:22 GMT
Those are very cool! Do you know him?
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