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Post by OziRiS on May 27, 2013 16:01:12 GMT
Maybe that's actually the way to test this...
Adam and Jamie (or each member of the build team) each get a car. They drive that car to work every day for a month to "get to know "it.They then switch and proceed to sabotage the other persons car, possibly rigging it to fail by remote control, take it to a track and see what happens when failure kicks in. How do they react and why?
Just a thought...
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Post by the light works on May 27, 2013 16:24:24 GMT
It would be funny, but probably doesn't match the myth.
flying a simulator with the screens blanked out might be closer.
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Post by silverdragon on May 28, 2013 7:29:26 GMT
TLW, Cant see what you disagree to there.....
In the situations posted, you refer to "Out of the box" experiences?... that IS seat of the pants stuff?...
The term "Out of the box", I have it on good authority that this is an aviation term, the "Box" being the envelope a plane is supposed to fly in, as in, designed to do a 3-g turn, ceiling at 50,000 ft.
When a test pilot pulls a 4-g turn at 52,000 ft, he has literally taken it out of the box?...
I got to say I also survive on a version of "Seat of the pants" driving.....
In my job, now and again, I am asked to drive a vehicle I have never driven before, or it has been several years since I have driven it.
Of course, as quick cockpit familiarisation session is in order... this is one reason why us Drivers insist on "Daily checks" EVERY day, it gives us those extra few mins on a strange vehicle to go look where the wheels are at.... ;D
But to actually load up/hook up and get on the move...
I am relying on experience and knowledge of all other vehicles, not THIS vehicle, just any other vehicle I have ever driven, to drive this one...
For the first few miles, I am relying on "What feels right" to know if I have the shiny side up and the black sticky things on the tarmac.
Flying by the seat of your pants, for me, is to denote that you know its right, but you cant explain how you know properly....
"Winging it", is this a derivative of that?...
Doing something "On the fly", same thing?...
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Post by the light works on May 28, 2013 14:02:58 GMT
TLW, Cant see what you disagree to there..... In the situations posted, you refer to "Out of the box" experiences?... that IS seat of the pants stuff?... The term "Out of the box", I have it on good authority that this is an aviation term, the "Box" being the envelope a plane is supposed to fly in, as in, designed to do a 3-g turn, ceiling at 50,000 ft.
When a test pilot pulls a 4-g turn at 52,000 ft, he has literally taken it out of the box?...I got to say I also survive on a version of "Seat of the pants" driving..... In my job, now and again, I am asked to drive a vehicle I have never driven before, or it has been several years since I have driven it. Of course, as quick cockpit familiarisation session is in order... this is one reason why us Drivers insist on "Daily checks" EVERY day, it gives us those extra few mins on a strange vehicle to go look where the wheels are at.... ;D But to actually load up/hook up and get on the move... I am relying on experience and knowledge of all other vehicles, not THIS vehicle, just any other vehicle I have ever driven, to drive this one... For the first few miles, I am relying on "What feels right" to know if I have the shiny side up and the black sticky things on the tarmac. Flying by the seat of your pants, for me, is to denote that you know its right, but you cant explain how you know properly.... "Winging it", is this a derivative of that?... Doing something "On the fly", same thing?... that is just it. I do not consider that to be seat-of-the-pants. I consider that to be business as usual. now, if they were to throw you into an airplane, dump you out in the middle of Alaska, stuff you into an ambulance, and say "you have to have this patient to Fairbanks ASAP, leave now." THAT would be flying by the seat of your pants. |
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Post by the light works on May 28, 2013 14:07:17 GMT
and when Adam and Jamie tested the myth of whether a civilian can make an emergency landing in a jumbo jet - that also qualifies.
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Post by Cybermortis on May 28, 2013 22:06:28 GMT
I suspect that that term *might* come from wing-walking, which was a popular stunt at air shows in the 1920/30's.
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Post by the light works on May 29, 2013 0:53:12 GMT
I suspect that that term *might* come from wing-walking, which was a popular stunt at air shows in the 1920/30's. I do not see much in common between the common usage of "winging it" meaning improvising and wingwalking - which is certainly not done spur of the moment. the internet suggests it might come from the theatre where a walk on understudy might be studying his lines in the wings to prepare for the show. |
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Post by oscardeuce on Jun 24, 2013 2:22:18 GMT
Google "death spiral or spatial disorientation ". It killed JFK Jr and many other pilots. You cannot believe what you feel if you lose the horizon. In that case flying but the seat of your pants will kill you.
Other than that the plane will talk to you though sounds, smells etc.
I hold single engine and multi engine ratings
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 24, 2013 8:43:27 GMT
Good point Oscar.....
Flying by the seat is also about knowing just how much you can push and when to push?...
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