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kharnynb Evil Senior Member Posts: 2,834	New, safer cloud service. Oct 1, 2013 11:57:51 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kharnynb on Oct 1, 2013 11:57:51 GMT For those of you looking for a cloudservice that isn't owned by one of the big US companies. younited.com/ Starting beta is next week, the service is owned by the well known finnish av software company F-secure.
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the light works Demi-God Posts: 38,750	New, safer cloud service. Oct 1, 2013 15:43:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by the light works on Oct 1, 2013 15:43:01 GMT I still have a hard time with the idea of off-site storage. it always feels to me like buying books and putting them in the library so I can go check them out when I want to read them.

watcher56 Full Member Posts: 288	New, safer cloud service. Oct 2, 2013 0:06:41 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by watcher56 on Oct 2, 2013 0:06:41 GMT That's a good analogy lw.

kharnynb Evil Senior Member Posts: 2,834	New, safer cloud service. Oct 2, 2013 7:29:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kharnynb on Oct 2, 2013 7:29:28 GMT I tend to use it more like an always accessible system, not as a main storage. I'd never trust a cloudservice as my only backup, but it's a great way to have stuff available on the move.
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New, safer cloud service. Oct 2, 2013 14:19:38 GMT

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Oct 2, 2013 7:29:28 GMT kharnynb said:

I tend to use it more like an always accessible system, not as a main storage.

I'd never trust a cloudservice as my only backup, but it's a great way to have stuff available on the move.

I have actually toyed with the concept of a private cloud. I.E. your desktop acts as your server, and all your portable devices can use it as a cloud. that would be coupled with the idea of putting a higher power cellular modem in your laptop, and letting your handset or earpiece route calls through it while on the move.

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New, safer cloud service. Oct 3, 2013 8:18:54 GMT

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Post by silverdragon on Oct 3, 2013 8:18:54 GMT

I have an entire terabyte of memory here on the network.
I DONT need to access it away from the network, I have memory sticks for what I need in that respect?...

I DONT trust cloud storage at all.
One power cut in the wrong place, no cloud?....
Ok, so the cloud has battery backup and emergency generators... maybe....
Even with my VERY reliable cable service, I have had service drop outs caused by some twit with a jack-hammer causing damage...
No internet, no cloud.
You can just bet that the day you NEED that internet, is the day you need the cloud?... its called sods law.

As for relying on it for the ONLY source of memory?... whoever does that is a fool.
You stick personal details or even bank details on there, you invite hackers.
And where there is a lock, there is a lock-picker.....

I know, part of my job as Beta tester for a well known anti-nasty site is testing software to stop hackers...
To know your adversary is to know your adversary.
I know where Troll Central is. I know what they get up to.

My Terabyte of memory is on portable drives that I can even "Hot Swap" from one machine to another, so if my main machine fails, I can just put the drive on another machine...

I have actually toyed with the concept of a private cloud. I.E. your desktop acts as your server, and all your portable devices can use it as a cloud. that would be coupled with the idea of putting a higher power cellular modem in your laptop, and letting your handset or earpiece route calls through it while on the move.

If you have a Wi-Fi, or even wired network, you can "File share" with any portable or any other device....
Just set file to share, add security (Password etc) and away you go.
Tell the portable device where to look on the network, and its done.

Also, you can get a wi-fi that is NOT connected to the internet, for extra security.....
That is how this system works.
All our machines have two wi-fi connections, one is internet, the other is VPN network sharing, or "Personal cloud" if you will.

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New, safer cloud service. Oct 3, 2013 13:18:16 GMT

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Post by the light works on Oct 3, 2013 13:18:16 GMT

Oct 3, 2013 8:18:54 GMT silverdragon said:

I have an entire terabyte of memory here on the network.
I DONT need to access it away from the network, I have memory sticks for what I need in that respect?...

I DONT trust cloud storage at all.
One power cut in the wrong place, no cloud?....
Ok, so the cloud has battery backup and emergency generators... maybe....
Even with my VERY reliable cable service, I have had service drop outs caused by some twit with a jack-hammer causing damage...
No internet, no cloud.
You can just bet that the day you NEED that internet, is the day you need the cloud?... its called sods law.

As for relying on it for the ONLY source of memory?... whoever does that is a fool.
You stick personal details or even bank details on there, you invite hackers.
And where there is a lock, there is a lock-picker.....

I know, part of my job as Beta tester for a well known anti-nasty site is testing software to stop hackers...
To know your adversary is to know your adversary.
I know where Troll Central is. I know what they get up to.

My Terabyte of memory is on portable drives that I can even "Hot Swap" from one machine to another, so if my main machine fails, I can just put the drive on another machine...

I have actually toyed with the concept of a private cloud. I.E. your desktop acts as your server, and all your portable devices can use it as a cloud. that would be coupled with the idea of putting a higher power cellular modem in your laptop, and letting your handset or earpiece route calls through it while on the move.

If you have a Wi-Fi, or even wired network, you can "File share" with any portable or any other device....
Just set file to share, add security (Password etc) and away you go.
Tell the portable device where to look on the network, and its done.

Also, you can get a wi-fi that is NOT connected to the internet, for extra security.....
That is how this system works.
All our machines have two wi-fi connections, one is internet, the other is VPN network sharing, or "Personal cloud" if you will.

my design concept was more along the lines of hardware coding - you have to physically introduce each part of the network to each other.

silverdragon Demi-God Busters Stunt Double, .. because "Life" is something that happens when your planning something else. Posts: 19,452	New, safer cloud service. Oct 4, 2013 7:32:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by silverdragon on Oct 4, 2013 7:32:06 GMT my design concept was more along the lines of hardware coding - you have to physically introduce each part of the network to each other. You have me intrigued.... How does that work, and why do it that way?....
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New, safer cloud service. Oct 4, 2013 14:33:17 GMT

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Post by the light works on Oct 4, 2013 14:33:17 GMT

I don't have the tech skills to pull it off - but it would have to use a physical ID, like SIM card technology, and that way you could have a much higher level of security, and none of this "oh, I found a WiFi signal, should I connect to it, and what permissions should I have?" nonsense. if your cell phone was in radio range of your laptop, your laptop would appear as part of the phone, and vice versa.

the idea is a higher level of integration than we currently have with WiFi/Bluetooth technology.

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