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Post by the light works on Sept 2, 2014 3:52:07 GMT
"The show's creators (Grant Naylor) have stated it was not related to a medical term and was a made up swear word. The show has consistently claimed to know nothing of the word "smegma", and that "smeg" was entirely made up, sounding as it did like a generic, four-letter, single-syllable swear-word that might be used in the future (and so could be used in the programme in place of swear words that, at the time, would not usually be used in mainstream sitcoms). " this was the same as they said on the bonus material in the DVDs. |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 2, 2014 6:45:17 GMT
It was around before Red Dwarf....
Smeg is a known rued word in Liverpool/Manchester area for a polite way of not swearing.
Not sure of other local variants.
Its also a term for something sticky that has oozed out of somewhere and is now a mess on the floor.
It can be used for a lot of things.
As for Ass as a donkey and [*r**] as you backside, ass is just the American way of saying the British version, you take one letter out and it makes a difference...
Well...
No.
Calling someone a donkey in UK is about as offensive as calling them an ass.
Pronouncing the "R" in *R** with a roll in a semi- posh accent is humorous, I think its because some comedy star used to use it that way.
But being told you have the brains of an Ass is derogatory... but humour....
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Post by freegan on Sept 2, 2014 6:49:53 GMT
"The show's creators (Grant Naylor) have stated it was not related to a medical term and was a made up swear word. The show has consistently claimed to know nothing of the word "smegma", and that "smeg" was entirely made up, sounding as it did like a generic, four-letter, single-syllable swear-word that might be used in the future (and so could be used in the programme in place of swear words that, at the time, would not usually be used in mainstream sitcoms). " this was the same as they said on the bonus material in the DVDs. Well, they would, wouldn't they if reprimands from the BBC hierarchy were pending? |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 2, 2014 7:54:40 GMT
BBC would never admit to knowing a word may be offensive.
Just look at the trouble Jeremy Clarkson got into for NOT saying an offensive word?...
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 2, 2014 13:11:26 GMT
"The show's creators (Grant Naylor) have stated it was not related to a medical term and was a made up swear word. The show has consistently claimed to know nothing of the word "smegma", and that "smeg" was entirely made up, sounding as it did like a generic, four-letter, single-syllable swear-word that might be used in the future (and so could be used in the programme in place of swear words that, at the time, would not usually be used in mainstream sitcoms). " this was the same as they said on the bonus material in the DVDs. Well, they would, wouldn't they if reprimands from the BBC hierarchy were pending? I was actually thinking of the part below that . The Young Ones book was written by Ben Elton, probably best know as on of the co writers of BlackAdder , in 1984, so that predates Red Dwarf by a few years, it was I think something that we knew at the time as teenagers even if adults did not know it. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 2, 2014 13:53:54 GMT
Well, they would, wouldn't they if reprimands from the BBC hierarchy were pending? I was actually thinking of the part below that . The Young Ones book was written by Ben Elton, probably best know as on of the co writers of BlackAdder , in 1984, so that predates Red Dwarf by a few years, it was I think something that we knew at the time as teenagers even if adults did not know it. Then I am going to claim that the epithet "frack" and "fracking" used in Battlestar Galactica is based on the controversial practice of hydraulic fracturing used to extract natural gas from isolated pockets. just because they did not know it was a word does not mean that some cosmic subconsciousness did not cause them to use it. |
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 2, 2014 16:48:34 GMT
It not the same thing, Smegs origin as an insult and its use in British comedy is clearly predates it's use in Red Dwarf, and with a meaning that people understood that matches its use in Dwarf.
Fracking existed as a technical term in Oil and Gas exploration, which is quite a rarefied field, was not used by many people as an insult before it's use in Galatica.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Sept 2, 2014 18:23:11 GMT
I was actually thinking of the part below that . The Young Ones book was written by Ben Elton, probably best know as on of the co writers of BlackAdder , in 1984, so that predates Red Dwarf by a few years, it was I think something that we knew at the time as teenagers even if adults did not know it. Then I am going to claim that the epithet "frack" and "fracking" used in Battlestar Galactica is based on the controversial practice of hydraulic fracturing used to extract natural gas from isolated pockets. just because they did not know it was a word does not mean that some cosmic subconsciousness did not cause them to use it. It would seem that just about every Sci Fi franchise has it's own version of 'made up' four letter words. If you have read any of the Star Wars series books their 'four letter words' of choice are Blaster Bolts, Poodoo & Stang. I have a theory that four letter words transcend any & all language barriers. Ten bucks says if we ever do meet ET the first word/words that'll be understood by both sides - despite not knowing what they actually mean - will be a 'four lettered word'.  |
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Post by the light works on Sept 2, 2014 18:54:38 GMT
Then I am going to claim that the epithet "frack" and "fracking" used in Battlestar Galactica is based on the controversial practice of hydraulic fracturing used to extract natural gas from isolated pockets. just because they did not know it was a word does not mean that some cosmic subconsciousness did not cause them to use it. It would seem that just about every Sci Fi franchise has it's own version of 'made up' four letter words. If you have read any of the Star Wars series books their 'four letter words' of choice are Blaster Bolts, Poodoo & Stang. I have a theory that four letter words transcend any & all language barriers. Ten bucks says if we ever do meet ET the first word/words that'll be understood by both sides - despite not knowing what they actually mean - will be a 'four lettered word'. "poodoo" is huttese for manure or fodder - depending on what source you use - Jabba originally accused Han of being bantha poodoo in ROTJ - meaning all he was good for was feeding to a bantha - but the meaning drifted to manure in subsequent usage. In my own writing, this is one of my major decisions - and I've wavered back and forth between the "approved for TV substitutions - and the actual words - and am strongly leaning towards the "everybody understands they are swearing, so let them actually swear." plus it makes a commentary on society that it is actually as so commonplace that people don't even notice it. (and when you add in that homicides are so common that they are treated more as a public nuisance than a crime...) |
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Sept 2, 2014 19:09:24 GMT
It would seem that just about every Sci Fi franchise has it's own version of 'made up' four letter words. If you have read any of the Star Wars series books their 'four letter words' of choice are Blaster Bolts, Poodoo & Stang. I have a theory that four letter words transcend any & all language barriers. Ten bucks says if we ever do meet ET the first word/words that'll be understood by both sides - despite not knowing what they actually mean - will be a 'four lettered word'. "poodoo" is huttese for manure or fodder - depending on what source you use - Jabba originally accused Han of being bantha poodoo in ROTJ - meaning all he was good for was feeding to a bantha - but the meaning drifted to manure in subsequent usage. In my own writing, this is one of my major decisions - and I've wavered back and forth between the "approved for TV substitutions - and the actual words - and am strongly leaning towards the "everybody understands they are swearing, so let them actually swear." plus it makes a commentary on society that it is actually as so commonplace that people don't even notice it. (and when you add in that homicides are so common that they are treated more as a public nuisance than a crime...) True but Poodoo was re appropriated by Lucas in Phantom Menace when Sebulba loses to Anakin in the pod race he yells Poodoo. I interpreted it that he was yelling the F word when he lost. As for swearing on screen I think there are still too many people who still get their knickers in a knot over it. So I don't think that we'll see full on swearing in a G rated film any time soon. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 2, 2014 19:18:02 GMT
"poodoo" is huttese for manure or fodder - depending on what source you use - Jabba originally accused Han of being bantha poodoo in ROTJ - meaning all he was good for was feeding to a bantha - but the meaning drifted to manure in subsequent usage. In my own writing, this is one of my major decisions - and I've wavered back and forth between the "approved for TV substitutions - and the actual words - and am strongly leaning towards the "everybody understands they are swearing, so let them actually swear." plus it makes a commentary on society that it is actually as so commonplace that people don't even notice it. (and when you add in that homicides are so common that they are treated more as a public nuisance than a crime...) True but Poodoo was re appropriated by Lucas in Phantom Menace when Sebulba loses to Anakin in the pod race he yells Poodoo. I interpreted it that he was yelling the F word when he lost. As for swearing on screen I think there are still too many people who still get their knickers in a knot over it. So I don't think that we'll see full on swearing in a G rated film any time soon. as I said - the meaning drifted from fodder to manure. - so rather than the F word, he was yelling the S word. - which begs the question of why a dug is swearing in another species' native language. and yeah - no odds of my story being made into a G-rated film. Violent is a bit of an understatement. |
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 2, 2014 19:19:19 GMT
It would seem that just about every Sci Fi franchise has it's own version of 'made up' four letter words. If you have read any of the Star Wars series books their 'four letter words' of choice are Blaster Bolts, Poodoo & Stang. I have a theory that four letter words transcend any & all language barriers. Ten bucks says if we ever do meet ET the first word/words that'll be understood by both sides - despite not knowing what they actually mean - will be a 'four lettered word'. "poodoo" is huttese for manure or fodder - depending on what source you use - Jabba originally accused Han of being bantha poodoo in ROTJ - meaning all he was good for was feeding to a bantha - but the meaning drifted to manure in subsequent usage. In my own writing, this is one of my major decisions - and I've wavered back and forth between the "approved for TV substitutions - and the actual words - and am strongly leaning towards the "everybody understands they are swearing, so let them actually swear." plus it makes a commentary on society that it is actually as so commonplace that people don't even notice it. (and when you add in that homicides are so common that they are treated more as a public nuisance than a crime...) As I've said before, I've always found it a disturbing testament to the moral standards of the people making the FCC rules that blood and guts and gore and murder are perfectly fine to show on TV, as long as no one swears or shows butts, boobs, penises or vaginas. Apparently, to these people, graphic violence is less disturbing than dirty words and the inside parts of a human being are more wholesome than the outside parts. Show a decapitated head on a stick with blood dripping from it on prime time TV and no one bats an eyelid. A news anchor says "holy sh*t" during a gruesomely detailed live broadcast following a major terrorist event and the country's "moral elite" is in an uproar, demanding the anchor be fired immediately. Makes sense... |
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Post by the light works on Sept 2, 2014 19:26:22 GMT
"poodoo" is huttese for manure or fodder - depending on what source you use - Jabba originally accused Han of being bantha poodoo in ROTJ - meaning all he was good for was feeding to a bantha - but the meaning drifted to manure in subsequent usage. In my own writing, this is one of my major decisions - and I've wavered back and forth between the "approved for TV substitutions - and the actual words - and am strongly leaning towards the "everybody understands they are swearing, so let them actually swear." plus it makes a commentary on society that it is actually as so commonplace that people don't even notice it. (and when you add in that homicides are so common that they are treated more as a public nuisance than a crime...) As I've said before, I've always found it a disturbing testament to the moral standards of the people making the FCC rules that blood and guts and gore and murder are perfectly fine to show on TV, as long as no one swears or shows butts, boobs, penises or vaginas. Apparently, to these people, graphic violence is less disturbing than dirty words and the inside parts of a human being are more wholesome than the outside parts. Show a decapitated head on a stick with blood dripping from it on prime time TV and no one bats an eyelid. A news anchor says "holy sh*t" during a live broadcast following a major terrorist event in gruesome detail and the county's "moral elite" is in an uproar, demanding the anchor be fired immediately. Makes sense... actually, it depends on whether it is "broadcast" TV or cable TV. in the old days of the FCC, blood was very sternly frowned upon. you were allowed to kill people as long as nobody actually SAW them die. cable TV, on the other hand, being a closed system, was able to ignore rules for quite some time - though now there are ratings systems much like for movies. actually, we are reminded at intervals to watch what we say over the radio. its a combination of professionalism and not giving the people in scannerland anything to get worked up about - in either direction. |
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Sept 10, 2014 12:03:34 GMT
Another reason why this twerp is in Room 101 (besides his arrest is Canada last week): Crowds boo Justin Bieber to put his clothes back onWhen the ladies are chanting 'Put it on' rather than 'Take it off', it's time to remove yourself from 'pop culture'... |
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Post by the light works on Sept 10, 2014 16:30:43 GMT
Another reason why this twerp is in Room 101 (besides his arrest is Canada last week): Crowds boo Justin Bieber to put his clothes back onWhen the ladies are chanting 'Put it on' rather than 'Take it off', it's time to remove yourself from 'pop culture'... somebody obviously didn't know how to read an audience, and it wasn't just Justin |
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Sept 12, 2014 13:38:32 GMT
Has Miley Cyrus been enshrined here yet? If not, I hereby enter her existence into Room 101.
I am sick of hearing where she is, who she's with, what she may or may not be wearing and anything else related to her and the term "twerking". I think a better term for it may be "Twerping" because the people doing it are twerps...
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Post by the light works on Sept 12, 2014 13:55:19 GMT
Has Miley Cyrus been enshrined here yet? If not, I hereby enter her existence into Room 101. I am sick of hearing where she is, who she's with, what she may or may not be wearing and anything else related to her and the term "twerking". I think a better term for it may be "Twerping" because the people doing it are twerps... I am going to use that - if I ever have sufficient reason to refer to that. (I've been known to refer to it as "the stripper dance") |
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Room 101.
Sept 12, 2014 15:29:07 GMT
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Post by kharnynb on Sept 12, 2014 15:29:07 GMT
I thought stripping was supposed to be sensual. Twerking is like stripping while on a mechanical bull
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Sept 12, 2014 15:30:40 GMT
I thought stripping was supposed to be sensual. Twerking is like stripping while on a mechanical bull ...while having a seizure. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 12, 2014 15:35:24 GMT
I thought stripping was supposed to be sensual. Twerking is like stripping while on a mechanical bull many American strippers are a bit lower class. |
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