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Post by blazerrose on Jan 24, 2014 3:28:23 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jan 24, 2014 6:24:19 GMT
so... you set up an enclosure with a big litter box with potted plants in it; and surprise, they use the litter box as needed...  |
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 25, 2014 6:38:59 GMT
Shocking!!  |
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 26, 2014 10:40:58 GMT
I liked this episode a lot more than the two previous ones. It was fun and some of the results were a little counterintuitive. Who would have thought that the passenger taking the wheel was actually so easy?
There are some things though (as always) that I think are worth pointing out.
Car Chase Chaos: The tests themselves were great and yielded some results that can't really be contested. The only finger I can put on it is that they didn't try them with a car with manual gears. I think that would have made it A LOT harder.
I'm a little sad to see that they made this great rig where the car's throttle and breaks could be steered from the back seat and we didn't get to see any of the build process. Part of the fun of this show for me has always been to watch the guys work these things out. I know they've done similar things before, so it probably wasn't all that hard for them at this point, but still. I'd have liked to see at least a little of it. It's great that they can cram so many tests into one show, but it's a shame that we don't get to see as much of the builds as we used to. At least we got to see a little of how Tory built the Indiana Jones set.
Snake deterrent: It would have been interesting to see if the snakes would have crossed the cayenne pepper if they had somewhere else to go. The way the test was set up, they had two places to be. Out in the open where they really don't like to be or in a closed, heated space that was perfect for them. I think there should have been another closed, heated space further away in the opposite direction, leaving them with the choise of crossing the cayenne pepper to get into one quickly or opting for the longer distance and avoiding the pepper. If I've been out in the cold for a long time and I see two abondoned houses, one a hundred feet away and one 500 feet away, I'm going for the closest one. But if that one has bundles of barbed wire all around, that I have to get through to get in and the other one doesn't, I'm going the longer distance. If the house with the barbed wire is the ONLY one around, I'll take my chances to get out of the cold.
Bear deterrent: I wasn't too surprised that the cayenne pepper worked on the bear. What I would have liked to see though was how much (or little) you'd actually need to keep the bear away. I mean, who's going to cover their car or house both inside and out in cayenne? Sure, it keeps the bear out, but would you want to get back into that car or house? Where's the threshold? Would it have worked if you'd just drawn a thin line of pepper on the ground all the way around the car? Maybe you could have hung small bags/containers of the stuff (with holes for the scent to get out of course) on all the door handles and that would have done the trick? Or do you actually need to dump 10 pounds of it on pretty much everything for it to work? I'd have liked to see those questions answered.
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Post by the light works on Jan 26, 2014 14:55:38 GMT
I liked this episode a lot more than the two previous ones. It was fun and some of the results were a little counterintuitive. Who would have thought that the passenger taking the wheel was actually so easy? There are some things though (as always) that I think are worth pointing out. Car Chase Chaos: The tests themselves were great and yielded some results that can't really be contested. The only finger I can put on it is that they didn't try them with a car with manual gears. I think that would have made it A LOT harder. I'm a little sad to see that they made this great rig where the car's throttle and breaks could be steered from the back seat and we didn't get to see any of the build process. Part of the fun of this show for me has always been to watch the guys work these things out. I know they've done similar things before, so it probably wasn't all that hard for them at this point, but still. I'd have liked to see at least a little of it. It's great that they can cram so many tests into one show, but it's a shame that we don't get to see as much of the builds as we used to. At least we got to see a little of how Tory built the Indiana Jones set. Snake deterrent: It would have been interesting to see if the snakes would have crossed the cayenne pepper if they had somewhere else to go. The way the test was set up, they had two places to be. Out in the open where they really don't like to be or in a closed, heated space that was perfect for them. I think there should have been another closed, heated space further away in the opposite direction, leaving them with the choise of crossing the cayenne pepper to get into one quickly or opting for the longer distance and avoiding the pepper. If I've been out in the cold for a long time and I see two abondoned houses, one a hundred feet away and one 500 feet away, I'm going for the closest one. But if that one has bundles of barbed wire all around, that I have to get through to get in and the other one doesn't, I'm going the longer distance. If the house with the barbed wire is the ONLY one around, I'll take my chances to get out of the cold. Bear deterrent: I wasn't too surprised that the cayenne pepper worked on the bear. What I would have liked to see though was how much (or little) you'd actually need to keep the bear away. I mean, who's going to cover their car or house both inside and out in cayenne? Sure, it keeps the bear out, but would you want to get back into that car or house? Where's the threshold? Would it have worked if you'd just drawn a thin line of pepper on the ground all the way around the car? Maybe you could have hung small bags/containers of the stuff (with holes for the scent to get out of course) on all the door handles and that would have done the trick? Or do you actually need to dump 10 pounds of it on pretty much everything for it to work? I'd have liked to see those questions answered. since I was too tired to fight for my episode last night when I got home, I haven't seen it, yet - but I can say with that volume of cayenne floating around, I would certainly look somewhere else. an ex GF of mine thought cayenne was a food group, and I never really liked the taste to begin with. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 26, 2014 15:57:34 GMT
Car chase chaos part 1: mail carriers have been driving from the passenger seat for years. it has only been recently that rural carriers (who own their own delivery vehicle) have bought cars with the controls on the "mailbox" side of the car.
cat capers: keep your cats from pooping in your flower bed by putting Lion poop in your flower bed... next we will determine whether it is possible to prevent stubbing your toe by hitting it with a hammer.
driving and shooting: I expected that result. driving fast without hitting anything is easier than driving fast and hitting selected things. with a gun, particularly when someone else is interfering with the stability of your platform.
Snakes: I think I am inclined to agree - you have to give them an alternative, for a deterrent to be effective. maybe they should try using bright lights as a deterrent...
the crossover: I agree. doable, but don't try it in traffic.
dead driver: there might have been a few strategy points that would have made it go better - including the fact that hollywood drivers who plan on dying behind the wheel tend to not wear seat belts.
bear in the car: one concern I have is if it might have skewed the test by first showing him that the car is a feeding station.
science question: do bears scent mark with urine? (I know they scent mark with their claws)
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jan 26, 2014 16:47:15 GMT
I liked this episode a lot more than the two previous ones. It was fun and some of the results were a little counterintuitive. Who would have thought that the passenger taking the wheel was actually so easy? Anyone who took Drivers' Ed at my high school, for starters. The school district was too cheap to shell out for dual-control cars ... at least for my school, the rich-kid schools may have had them. So whenever you were on the road and the instructor didn't like your lane position, he'd reach across and steer for you. Something I noticed on the initial tests was that Adam was leaning over to look out the center of the windshield, and Jamie stayed in his seat and (presumably) used the right fender to monitor his position in the lane. Seems odd, given that Adam's the one who owns a right-hand-control car. But I wonder if that's where some of the difference between their runs came from. It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who noticed the scoopable kitty litter in their "flower bed". But how else were they going to make sure the cats went over there in the first place? Kari said on Twitter that they tested aluminum foil to keep cats out of the flower bed, hopefully that clip will make its way to the website. It sounds like a more reasonable option than the water bottles. Lion poop -- one of my aunts had an indoor-outdoor cat when she lived in Colorado in the 50s, and apparently Pete (the cat) ran straight home after sniffing a pawprint left behind by a mountain lion, so I can see where this one is coming from. But Pete was an only-cat; if the test kitties were used to a shared litter box the scent of someone else's poop isn't going to be as big an issue. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 27, 2014 0:56:25 GMT
I liked this episode a lot more than the two previous ones. It was fun and some of the results were a little counterintuitive. Who would have thought that the passenger taking the wheel was actually so easy? Anyone who took Drivers' Ed at my high school, for starters. The school district was too cheap to shell out for dual-control cars ... at least for my school, the rich-kid schools may have had them. So whenever you were on the road and the instructor didn't like your lane position, he'd reach across and steer for you. Something I noticed on the initial tests was that Adam was leaning over to look out the center of the windshield, and Jamie stayed in his seat and (presumably) used the right fender to monitor his position in the lane. Seems odd, given that Adam's the one who owns a right-hand-control car. But I wonder if that's where some of the difference between their runs came from. It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who noticed the scoopable kitty litter in their "flower bed". But how else were they going to make sure the cats went over there in the first place? Kari said on Twitter that they tested aluminum foil to keep cats out of the flower bed, hopefully that clip will make its way to the website. It sounds like a more reasonable option than the water bottles. Lion poop -- one of my aunts had an indoor-outdoor cat when she lived in Colorado in the 50s, and apparently Pete (the cat) ran straight home after sniffing a pawprint left behind by a mountain lion, so I can see where this one is coming from. But Pete was an only-cat; if the test kitties were used to a shared litter box the scent of someone else's poop isn't going to be as big an issue. I think the big difference between Adam and Jamie taking over the wheel was that Jamie was not taking it as seriously as Adam was. |
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 27, 2014 19:38:14 GMT
Jamie did seem much more casual about the test, until he almost drove off the runway.
I don't know that driving a stick would have made switching drivers any different - pop the transmission into neutral and switch away. I wonder how easy it would have been without the skyroof, however, and if they had tried it in a Honda instead of a big American car.
I had to laugh at the Build Team using kitty litter and then sticking potted plants in it, thinking that would serve as a "flower bed". It made cleaning up after the cats easier, but they really needed to use dirt instead to make it a proper test. Litter and dirt do not even come close to smelling the same.
The cayenne pepper test didn't surprise me, since commercial bear sprays are often pepper sprays. It would have been interesting to test what my sister always believed worked - a big bell. She never went hiking in Colorado without one.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 27, 2014 22:42:28 GMT
I don't know that driving a stick would have made switching drivers any different - pop the transmission into neutral and switch away. I wonder how easy it would have been without the skyroof, however, and if they had tried it in a Honda instead of a big American car. Good points about the skyroof and the size of the car. I still think manual gears would have made a difference in pretty much every test they did in that car. With the passenger taking the wheel and the driver operating throttle and brakes while he's shooting, there's not much of a problem in that as far as an automatic goes. But throw in a clutch and a stick and a couple of turns where they'd have to slow down enough to also have to shift down and you're gonna have trouble. |
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Post by breesfan on Jan 28, 2014 0:39:48 GMT
I did think of the test with the switching of the driver without the sun roof. I think they need to retest that because I bet it would be more difficult. Maybe that's why they ruled it plausible?
I thought Grant holding the cat was cute and laughed at the cats uh.. doing their business on the kitty litter.
The Cayenne pepper was interesting but I have to admit, who is going to douse their car with that stuff.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jan 28, 2014 14:24:00 GMT
I thought the whole reason they cut the roof out of their test car was so they could film the switchover. I don't see an intact-roof revisit unless they can get some tiny cameras with the same video quality as what they're currently using.
Another thing that made the switch easier is the fact that Jamie and Adam are almost the same height. I'm short, so if I'm driving someone else's car Step One is always "move the seat". A Kari-Tory switchover revisit would either mean Kari has trouble reaching the pedals or Tory has trouble fitting behind the wheel, either way it would be harder to escape the bad guys.
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Post by the light works on Jan 28, 2014 14:55:04 GMT
I found it interesting that they did the opposite of what you see in most movies. most movies show the first driver climbing over the second driver to get out of the way.
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