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Post by c64 on Mar 30, 2014 13:58:24 GMT
Which is when you get the length of scaffolding bar on handle of the wheel wrench. Nope, that's when I just take my ordinary "wheel cross". I am strong enough to apply over 300Nm with it I broke 3 of them so far but the one my dad gave me which came with his furniture delivery truck which was built in the early 60s is a keeper.
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Post by the light works on Mar 30, 2014 14:30:31 GMT
Which is when you get the length of scaffolding bar on handle of the wheel wrench. and the head shears off and you then have to replace the hub. which is why the US went to studs and lug nuts about 50 years ago.
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Post by c64 on Mar 30, 2014 16:23:01 GMT
Which is when you get the length of scaffolding bar on handle of the wheel wrench. and the head shears off and you then have to replace the hub. which is why the US went to studs and lug nuts about 50 years ago. Funny, we switched FROM the lug nuts 50 years ago. I've never had any head shaved off. Those bolts are not like cheap bolts from a hardware store, they are meant to tolerate a lot of forces to prevent that the wheels fall off while driving.
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Post by the light works on Mar 30, 2014 23:00:03 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 31, 2014 8:25:08 GMT
If its the scaf-bar time, you usually does it with WD40 before and leave it an hour if you even expect that it may shear?...
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Post by c64 on Mar 31, 2014 10:55:49 GMT
If its the scaf-bar time, you usually does it with WD40 before and leave it an hour if you even expect that it may shear?... Oil and brakes ... my dad did that one once on his bicycle. At least the brakes didn't screech any more!
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Post by kharnynb on Mar 31, 2014 19:58:22 GMT
The citroen and the suzuki never have had any issues with the bolts, swapping twice per year on each.
The old chevy van we had, you could order new bolts every third year, in advance, those things were hopeless....
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Post by the light works on Mar 31, 2014 23:53:04 GMT
The citroen and the suzuki never have had any issues with the bolts, swapping twice per year on each. The old chevy van we had, you could order new bolts every third year, in advance, those things were hopeless.... and like I said, the only time I ever had a problem with wheel studs was because the lug nuts were not torqued properly - they loosened, and the wheel ground on the threads - ultimately caught it because one finally broke. (checked it because I could hear it rattling inside the cover) and that was on one of only two vehicles I've driven in the past 26 years that has covers over the lug nuts.
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 1, 2014 8:35:48 GMT
Check out modern wagons... not many have covers over the lug nuts.... Do they get dirty?... yes, but of you have to change a wheel, its the long bar on the socket, they usually do come off eventually.
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Post by c64 on Apr 1, 2014 10:49:24 GMT
they usually do come off eventually. They all do sooner or later!
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 1, 2014 11:07:06 GMT
I can state beyond all doubt I have never ever lost a whole wheel from anything I drove.
[touch wood, thank ye gods from all religions in the world and ask that long may that continue....]
I have lost a complete tyre when I ran over something that fell of another vehicle.... I saw it slide underneath the cab, I felt the bump, I felt and heard the bang as rubber exploded, I started praying it wasnt a front wheel.....
My Guardian angel was keeping up with me that day, one tyre from a double wheel ("Dually?")blew, thankfully the outside one, kerbside, and I managed to get to the side of the road safely to change it.
The blown rubber?... well, I wasnt climbing that tree to fetch it back, so it stayed where it was....
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Post by c64 on Apr 1, 2014 12:39:26 GMT
well, I wasnt climbing that tree to fetch it back, so it stayed where it was.... You can have a bucket of rubber I picked out of my car. I was about to pass a Romanian 18-wheeler when I noticed that there was black smoke coming from the rear wheels of the tractor. I thought about braking but I feared that when the truck gets out of control, I'll be stuck behind it and might even be rear ended. So full throttle it was - and that was the wrong decision! A very large piece had barely missed my windwhield and left a neat tire tread print on the back of the left mirror. A lot of smaller chunks sat in the radiator cover, a fist full of tiny fragments were in the air filter and a rather large bit was glued next to the radiator intake, this stuff must have been molten, there is still some rubber smeared over the front of my car I can't remove. And the brake balance regulator cover was missing, the incident could have taken out both brake circuits at once. I know that those tires are made out of a lot of rubber, but I never thought that they can make such a vast mess! And I've lost a couple of wheels but never on a car or truck. I had lost a wheel on a trailer when the axis had snapped in half driving offroad towing it with my car and I had lost a front wheel of a farming tractor about a mile after slipping down a steep and rocky hill sidewards. On cars I only had "silent flats" and two broken steel belts, nothing real serious and I could always stop safely.
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Post by the light works on Apr 1, 2014 14:26:38 GMT
I can state beyond all doubt I have never ever lost a whole wheel from anything I drove. [touch wood, thank ye gods from all religions in the world and ask that long may that continue....]
I have lost a complete tyre when I ran over something that fell of another vehicle.... I saw it slide underneath the cab, I felt the bump, I felt and heard the bang as rubber exploded, I started praying it wasnt a front wheel.....
My Guardian angel was keeping up with me that day, one tyre from a double wheel ("Dually?")blew, thankfully the outside one, kerbside, and I managed to get to the side of the road safely to change it.
The blown rubber?... well, I wasnt climbing that tree to fetch it back, so it stayed where it was....I met a guy who had come due for tires on his way out of Flagstaff Arizona in the middle of the summer, and the transport company demanded to put retreads on it. he told them it was the worst idea in the world, and refused to drive it unless they at least put new tires on the steering axle. he said about 20 miles out of Flagstaff, it threw all 8 retreads at once, and when he got it stopped, he called them up and told them now they got to send a wrecker and sign the order for the 8 new tires to replace the retreads he only got 20 miles out of. any more you can get a pretty good idea between a reputable trucking company and a fly by night operation by whether they have retreads on the trucks.
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Post by kharnynb on Apr 1, 2014 14:43:21 GMT
change of pants time, c64?
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Post by silverdragon on Apr 2, 2014 8:21:48 GMT
Re-Treads are now illegal in europe... or it it re-moulds?... Anyway, the practise of glueing a new tread round an old existing tyre is illegal.
There is now concern about the actual age of a tyre after a coach crash that caused deaths being proven to be the fault of tyres that were over 20 years old..... They are also looking into nut indicators... those bright plastic triangles you see attached to wheel nuts... The things all point in one direction, if the nut moves, its immediately obvious by that indicator, should they make the things a legal requirement or not. I say yes. Anything that obviously helpful should be a requirement.
I still cant get past the fact that one millimetre of tread is legal on a truck.
I have a problem with driving old tyres, I just cant do that.
But, we digress, this is Tyres and we are supposed to be at Hub-Caps on this thread?... I have opened a new thread concerning tyres on a bike, should we open a new thread concerning other tyre related problems to continue this tangent?...
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Post by the light works on Apr 2, 2014 14:29:57 GMT
Re-Treads are now illegal in europe... or it it re-moulds?... Anyway, the practise of glueing a new tread round an old existing tyre is illegal. There is now concern about the actual age of a tyre after a coach crash that caused deaths being proven to be the fault of tyres that were over 20 years old..... They are also looking into nut indicators... those bright plastic triangles you see attached to wheel nuts... The things all point in one direction, if the nut moves, its immediately obvious by that indicator, should they make the things a legal requirement or not. I say yes. Anything that obviously helpful should be a requirement. I still cant get past the fact that one millimetre of tread is legal on a truck. I have a problem with driving old tyres, I just cant do that. But, we digress, this is Tyres and we are supposed to be at Hub-Caps on this thread?... I have opened a new thread concerning tyres on a bike, should we open a new thread concerning other tyre related problems to continue this tangent?... sounds like a good idea. maybe "wheel and tire tech battles."
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Post by c64 on Apr 4, 2014 13:28:18 GMT
change of pants time, c64? Actually not. I didn't even stop since I didn't had realized that my car was badly hit by fragments. Being on the side of the Autobahn which is highly dangerous isn't my idea of spending my time right after work. Also there are emergency phones installed every few kilometers and if the truck had crashed, there literally hundreds of people trapped by the crash which have nothing better to do than to help. But actually, if that would have taken out my brakes, this could have been fatal since this was right in front of my exit where there is a T intersection you approach with great speed and this one is very busy. Even if I wouldn't had hit another car, I couldn't had made the turn and would have ran straight off the road on top of the river dam crashing right into the whitewater of the river.
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