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Post by silverdragon on Nov 13, 2014 9:53:54 GMT
America became independent on 4th July, 1776 ...
Declaration of Independence was signed by the founding fathers of America, On 4th July, 1776, this we know, because you have that document, and there are copies of it as well.
The war continued for another seven years (Or so?..)
so independence was finally achieved on 3rd September, 1783. ......
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 13, 2014 14:09:54 GMT
Well, you have to start somewhere. It just took that long to convince the Brits that we were serious about it.
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Post by the light works on Nov 13, 2014 15:15:11 GMT
That's like saying our election happened on November 10, because that was the day the last close race was conceded.
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Post by GTCGreg on Nov 13, 2014 15:46:00 GMT
That's like saying our election happened on November 10, because that was the day the last close race was conceded. Or January 3rd, as that's the date the newly elected members are seated. |
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 14, 2014 8:53:45 GMT
Light the blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance...... heh heh heh...  ow before you all go and get serially offended, remember this is ME, I do know the truth, I just want this "Myth" put out there... for inspection.... Not just for you damn yankees, even though some of your countrymates who should know better dont, but for the REST of the world who still believe that Independence was Achieved, yeas actually achieved on the fourth of july. Yes, some people believe that is when you "Finished" the war, its a bit like when we do "D" day in eurozone, thats the day we did start of the final assault, the victory was on VE day, victory in europe, some people just cant keep up?... I believe truly that the signing of the Independence document was an important thing, and if it isnt for loonie louie the something-th, you wouldnt have had it so easy.... he did kind of loose his head on his war with England didnt he?.. and lending you his navy kinda threw you the victory... although it lost frenchland their monarchy, and a big statue was sent your way because they didnt want it any more. But anyway, signing the Magna Carter didnt change England "On that day", it took a while for the new laws to settle in.... History is written by the winners... Hmm. |
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Post by the light works on Nov 14, 2014 15:24:51 GMT
Light the blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance...... heh heh heh... ow before you all go and get serially offended, remember this is ME, I do know the truth, I just want this "Myth" put out there... for inspection.... Not just for you damn yankees, even though some of your countrymates who should know better dont, but for the REST of the world who still believe that Independence was Achieved, yeas actually achieved on the fourth of july. Yes, some people believe that is when you "Finished" the war, its a bit like when we do "D" day in eurozone, thats the day we did start of the final assault, the victory was on VE day, victory in europe, some people just cant keep up?... I believe truly that the signing of the Independence document was an important thing, and if it isnt for loonie louie the something-th, you wouldnt have had it so easy.... he did kind of loose his head on his war with England didnt he?.. and lending you his navy kinda threw you the victory... although it lost frenchland their monarchy, and a big statue was sent your way because they didnt want it any more. But anyway, signing the Magna Carter didnt change England "On that day", it took a while for the new laws to settle in.... History is written by the winners... Hmm. don't forget that we bought half the country from Napoleon for pennies on the dollar. - yet when we were offended at the french for not falling into line we attacked them by "freedom fries" (but we DO still refuse to kowtow to their measuring system) |
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Post by Cybermortis on Nov 15, 2014 0:48:25 GMT
It wasn't just the Navy, just as important was sending experienced army officers (and related equipment) to help the colonials. It was these officers who created a viable American Army that could hold its own against the British.
The major contribution of the French Navy was really to distract, and owing to having better ship designs* alarming, the Royal Navy. Most of the British forces ended up being stuck in Europe, to guard against a French invasion, which prevented Britain from being able to throw anything close to its full weight against the American forces. Had they been able to do this, and keeping in mind that rather a lot of the colonials were quite happy to be under British Rule, it is fairly certain that even with 'unofficial' aid from France the revolution wouldn't have lasted long. (It wasn't just France that got involved, Spain and the Netherlands were also helping the Americans btw. You know the other two European powers Britain liked to beat up when they got tired of fighting the French...)
(*Better being relative. French ships of the period were more stable and faster than their British counterparts owing to having longer thinner hulls. British ships were considerably more agile, being literally capable of sailing circles around French ships, and were much more rugged with longer service lives. The catch for the French was that their ships, impressive as they were, were short lived designs - typically their service lives were 5-10 years at best, compared to 20+ years for British designs. This was due to heavier framing and hulls and higher quality, if more expensive, builds. What broke the French wasn't exactly the war itself, rather it was having to replace most of the ships straight afterwards in addition to the cost of the war.)
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Post by rmc on Jan 26, 2015 12:22:35 GMT
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on Jan 27, 2015 10:33:55 GMT
America became independent on 4th July, 1776 ... Declaration of Independence was signed by the founding fathers of America, On 4th July, 1776, this we know, because you have that document, and there are copies of it as well. The war continued for another seven years (Or so?..) so independence was finally achieved on 3rd September, 1783. ...... & now for a bit of light humour. The REAL reason Americans celebrate Independence Day on the 4th of July...............  Philadelphia July 3rd 1776: |
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