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Post by the light works on Jan 11, 2015 4:27:10 GMT
the acid test of the new season. first episode of the season.
the graphic overlays aren't really all that obtrusive. I do miss the build team, and it looks like they have presumably lower paid crew becoming visible around the edges.
as for themyths - one complaint on the cherry bomb myth - threaded steel drain pipe isn't very common - school plumbing would more likely use cast iron - which would provide another possible fail point. I also would have liked to see the test done with a properly functioning system, but i understand the effort to give it the best chance of success.
as or the homer wrecking ball pad - I have to say I was not expecting quite the result they got. good method, good result.
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 11, 2015 6:17:43 GMT
While I miss the build team, I liked the new format and style of the show. The science explanations are clear for even the average dummy like me, and the graphics were not crazy busy and distracting. Bring on the Indiana Jones special next week!
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 11, 2015 15:30:29 GMT
M5 is a working business and has more than just the staff who work on Mythbusters. These members of staff are usually busy doing M5's normal day to day work and were not brought in for MB work unless time was pressing and the work facing A&J was something they couldn't hope to do by themselves in that time.
The original build team, Kari, Tory and Scotty were all originally just normal workers at M5 who ended up being called in to help out so often that they ended up being asked to co-host the show. The people you see working around the edges are basically doing that job, and were probably brought in to help out with the big builds or aspects of them that A&J couldn't manage alone - and educated guess would be that some of the money needed to keep M7 open for business now allows M5 to hire some additional people to help out on builds. (In fact I wouldn't be surprised to find that they were brought over from M7).
I'm wondering if some of these people might end up being more visible as time goes on, not quite co-hosts but named helpers if they (like the first build team) seem to do well in front of the camera. (I watched the first season of the show again over Christmas, and noticed that Kari and Tory did have a presence that made them stand out even in the short periods they were on screen).
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jan 11, 2015 16:53:15 GMT
Pros: The graphics were unobtrusive and clear. The new intro music is going to take some getting used to, but it's not bad. It's nice to see more of the build process. Cons: The intro bit (Jamie and Adam watching TV) desperately needed to be edited shorter. The regular clips from The Simpsons didn't seem to serve any purpose other than padding and reminding everyone that this was a Simpsons special. Is there some clause in the contract that states whenever there's a guest-star producer, he must second-guess the results? What's-his-name from last night wasn't as obnoxious as Seth Rogan was, but it's still annoying.
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Post by the light works on Jan 11, 2015 16:54:41 GMT
M5 is a working business and has more than just the staff who work on Mythbusters. These members of staff are usually busy doing M5's normal day to day work and were not brought in for MB work unless time was pressing and the work facing A&J was something they couldn't hope to do by themselves in that time. The original build team, Kari, Tory and Scotty were all originally just normal workers at M5 who ended up being called in to help out so often that they ended up being asked to co-host the show. The people you see working around the edges are basically doing that job, and were probably brought in to help out with the big builds or aspects of them that A&J couldn't manage alone - and educated guess would be that some of the money needed to keep M7 open for business now allows M5 to hire some additional people to help out on builds. (In fact I wouldn't be surprised to find that they were brought over from M7). I'm wondering if some of these people might end up being more visible as time goes on, not quite co-hosts but named helpers if they (like the first build team) seem to do well in front of the camera. (I watched the first season of the show again over Christmas, and noticed that Kari and Tory did have a presence that made them stand out even in the short periods they were on screen). yes, that was the manner I meant. while the build team were co-hosts, those I saw around the edges in the episode were more at the level of stagehand. the other change seen was that for the most part, Adam and Jamie did portions of the builds separately, and then paired up for the tests.
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Post by the light works on Jan 11, 2015 16:56:26 GMT
Pros: The graphics were unobtrusive and clear. The new intro music is going to take some getting used to, but it's not bad. It's nice to see more of the build process. Cons: The intro bit (Jamie and Adam watching TV) desperately needed to be edited shorter. The regular clips from The Simpsons didn't seem to serve any purpose other than padding and reminding everyone that this was a Simpsons special. Is there some clause in the contract that states whenever there's a guest-star producer, he must second-guess the results? What's-his-name from last night wasn't as obnoxious as Seth Rogan was, but it's still annoying. I had the impression the claims about the springfield toilets being stronger was meant to be funny.
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Post by breesfan on Jan 11, 2015 17:43:20 GMT
I thought this episode was boring but interesting. It probably wasn't possible but I thought they could have maybe used a system to drop the bomb IN the toilet bowl instead of what they actually did but then you couldn't get any flushing.
House one was interesting as well and was surprised at the result even though, in reality, you can't swing a wrecking ball the way it is show in the cartoon.
EDIT: Maybe it wasn't possible but I wanted to see the shaking of the soda can like they did in one of the episodes of the Simpsons.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 11, 2015 18:42:17 GMT
The soda can shake was considered, along with driving with driving with a wheel clamp (which was posted on TC). If they decide to do a sequel those two ideas would probably be near the top of the list.
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Post by the light works on Jan 11, 2015 21:38:35 GMT
yes, I would have liked to see them actually flush the cherry bomb, too - but I understand why that was problematic.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jan 12, 2015 14:20:01 GMT
I thought this episode was intesting and it was nice to hear the explanations from A&J, as well as seeing the overlays, of the science. I think this may be one of those episodes designed more for new viewers than it was for long time viewers.
Toilet Bomb: Toilets in an elementary school would be bolted into concrete. Adam's toilets were attached to plywood. Definitely problematic. Al Jean's comments about the strength of the toilets due to the nuclear power plant should have been funny, except his delivery of it was terrible.
Homer-wrecker: I thought this was well done and the results were as expected. How were the chimneys constructed? Wood or cinderblocks? One part I think they could have explained more was the wrecking balls loss of energy due to Homer being a squishy object; whereas, the ball rebounded and made multiple hits on the house in the control test, it only hit the house once during the Homer test.
Quote of the day: "Jamie wirebrushes his balls every morning."
There were definitely times when this episode got a little sophomoric (Adam's repeated #2 references), but it was overall good. I watched it with my kids (5 & 7) and, of course, they loved it. I am hoping to turn them into MB fans and create a love of science in general.
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Post by the light works on Jan 12, 2015 15:30:41 GMT
I thought this episode was intesting and it was nice to hear the explanations from A&J, as well as seeing the overlays, of the science. I think this may be one of those episodes designed more for new viewers than it was for long time viewers. Toilet Bomb: Toilets in an elementary school would be bolted into concrete. Adam's toilets were attached to plywood. Definitely problematic. Al Jean's comments about the strength of the toilets due to the nuclear power plant should have been funny, except his delivery of it was terrible. Homer-wrecker: I thought this was well done and the results were as expected. How were the chimneys constructed? Wood or cinderblocks? One part I think they could have explained more was the wrecking balls loss of energy due to Homer being a squishy object; whereas, the ball rebounded and made multiple hits on the house in the control test, it only hit the house once during the Homer test. Quote of the day: "Jamie wirebrushes his balls every morning." There were definitely times when this episode got a little sophomoric (Adam's repeated #2 references), but it was overall good. I watched it with my kids (5 & 7) and, of course, they loved it. I am hoping to turn them into MB fans and create a love of science in general. toilet bomb: toilets are installed the same no matter what the floor is - there are studs on the flange of the plumbing, and the toilet secures to the studs - they were on either steel or iron flanges, and this was obvious because the toilets were shattering rather than pulling the studs out. and yes, the delivery was terrible, that's why he is a producer and not a voice actor. homer wrecker: the chimneys appeared to be cinder blocks, by the way they broke away. I was expecting homer's cushioning effect to result in more of a splat. he was, after, all, essentially a giant sponge.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 13, 2015 8:49:43 GMT
I'm not going to bash Al Jean for not being funny or comment on Adam's #2 jokes. I'm just glad to see more of the builds again!
Watching Adam build a life size Homer Simpson was just fun and Jamie's ingenius idea for making the wrecking ball was probably one of his best yet.
Speaking of Jamie: Did anyone else notice how much more natural his bits to camera seemed for this opener than they've done in almost all the other episodes combined? I guess that could come from him growing more accustumed to speaking during the tour, but it also seemed to me that it came more easily to him when he was explaining his own idea (the half sphere drill). Either way, anything that makes Jamie more comfortable in front of the cameras when he's doing his thing is good for the show.
I'm also glad to see the new graphic overlays aren't as intrusive as I feared they'd be. They keep the info short and to the point, but it's not crucial to understanding what's going, so you can still follow the show without reading it and they've kept it in a color scheme that actually allows you to ignore it. As long as they keep the Twitter feed off the screen, I'm good with it.
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Post by the light works on Jan 13, 2015 15:37:57 GMT
I'm not going to bash Al Jean for not being funny or comment on Adam's #2 jokes. I'm just glad to see more of the builds again! Watching Adam build a life size Homer Simpson was just fun and Jamie's ingenius idea for making the wrecking ball was probably one of his best yet. Speaking of Jamie: Did anyone else notice how much more natural his bits to camera seemed for this opener than they've done in almost all the other episodes combined? I guess that could come from him growing more accustumed to speaking during the tour, but it also seemed to me that it came more easily to him when he was explaining his own idea (the half sphere drill). Either way, anything that makes Jamie more comfortable in front of the cameras when he's doing his thing is good for the show. I'm also glad to see the new graphic overlays aren't as intrusive as I feared they'd be. They keep the info short and to the point, but it's not crucial to understanding what's going, so you can still follow the show without reading it and they've kept it in a color scheme that actually allows you to ignore it. As long as they keep the Twitter feed off the screen, I'm good with it. wasn't bashing al jean - just pointing out he's not a performer. I fully agree on keeping the twitter feed off the screen.
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 13, 2015 18:18:14 GMT
Didn't say you were. Just that I wasn't going to
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Post by the light works on Jan 13, 2015 19:49:55 GMT
Didn't say you were. Just that I wasn't going to as contrasted to Seth Rogen who I bash.
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Post by blazerrose on Jan 14, 2015 4:42:48 GMT
When it comes to Seth Rogen, you have my full permission to bash.
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Post by the light works on Jan 14, 2015 6:36:22 GMT
When it comes to Seth Rogen, you have my full permission to bash. After the movie, we watched the original miniseries. it was less cheesy.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 14, 2015 16:59:09 GMT
I liked the episode overall. My complaint was that, while Homer clearly made a difference, they never even mentioned that it would be deadly to him. I would have loved to have seen sensors and such added into him to show what a terribly bad idea that would be in RL.
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Post by the light works on Jan 14, 2015 17:25:10 GMT
I liked the episode overall. My complaint was that, while Homer clearly made a difference, they never even mentioned that it would be deadly to him. I would have loved to have seen sensors and such added into him to show what a terribly bad idea that would be in RL. that's sort of why I was hoping for the "splat" effect.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Jan 14, 2015 17:37:50 GMT
There was that 1 camera angle they showed in slower time with him getting squished. I must say that was rather satisfying
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