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Post by Lokifan on Sept 27, 2015 15:59:20 GMT
Went to the SF Giants/Oakland A's baseball game yesterday.
Wow. A back-and-forth battle that saw a combined 30 hits. For a while, I thought both teams would run out of pitchers.
Final score:
Giants 14 A's 10
Giants rookie Jarrett Parker hit 3 homers, the last a grand slam. Knocked in 7 runs in the same game. The last Giant outfielder that did this was Willie Mays in 1961.
He just came up from the minor leagues on the 21st.
If the kid keeps this up, he'll have one heck of a career. He's homered 5 times in the last 10 at bats.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 27, 2015 17:47:12 GMT
You may find it interesting that there are many fans of playing handball in the US--there is a place full of courts near me, for example, and I've known a few very dedicated players. However, for whatever reason, it's not considered a spectator sport. Badminton is similar. There are public courts that pretty busy, but I've never seen it on TV. Heck, I've even seen folks playing cricket in the park near me. I know handball isn't completely foreign in the US, but as you say, it's not considered a spectator sport, which I don't really understand. As I've mentioned earlier, if you compare it to many other spectator sports enjoyed in the US (basketball and hockey to name a few), it seems to have all the ingredients most Americans like. It's fast paced, it's physical, there's a lot of scoring and many plays are just plain spectacular. Have a look for yourself. Athletically, some of the things these guys can do are downright insane! Especially the guys at the wing position (far edges of the court). These guys make some crazy jumps and incredible screw shots that sometimes defy belief. I would have included a video of French left winger Luc Abalo, but the only one I could find in HD has an unfortunate soundtrack that's NSFW and therefore not fit for this board (rap music). It's worth a look though, so if you find these other videos interesting, go to YouTube and search for "Luc Abalo". If you like feats of incredible athleticism, you're in for a rare treat with that guy! And I just have to include a highlight video of one of the best Danes to ever play the game - Mikkel Hansen The guy has one of the fastest and most feared shots in all of international handball. His shots have been measured in excess of 70 MPH! Tell me that's not a spectator sport
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Post by Lokifan on Sept 27, 2015 18:23:31 GMT
Oops.
I just realized I'd never seen this version of handball in my life.
I literally had no idea it existed.
The handball I've seen is played more like tennis.
This is the handball I'm familiar with:
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 27, 2015 20:02:25 GMT
Oops. I just realized I'd never seen this version of handball in my life. I literally had no idea it existed. The handball I've seen is played more like tennis. This is the handball I'm familiar with: Right, I should have been more clear. I think you guys call it "Team Handball". I know there are a couple of places in New York City where they play, but the way I understand it, it's purely as a form of exercise and not all that competitive. They have scrimmage games, but not an actual "league". But again, look at those videos and tell me that with the right kind of marketing, that wouldn't appeal to Americans. It's fast, it's high scoring, it's athletically spectacular to look at and the rules are very similar to basketball, except instead of a basket you have a goal and a goal keeper in each end. The attacking team has to attack from outside the goal area, but they can jump into the goal area as long as they let go of the ball before they touch the floor again, which can lead to some pretty awesome looking goals, as you saw in the videos. If you're a basketball fan, or you at least understand the game of basketball, you'll grasp the basic rules of team handball within the first 10 minutes of watching a game and again, as you can probably tell from the videos, there's not much risk of you getting bored within those first ten minutes.
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Post by the light works on Sept 27, 2015 21:09:55 GMT
Oops. I just realized I'd never seen this version of handball in my life. I literally had no idea it existed. The handball I've seen is played more like tennis. This is the handball I'm familiar with: Right, I should have been more clear. I think you guys call it "Team Handball". I know there are a couple of places in New York City where they play, but the way I understand it, it's purely as a form of exercise and not all that competitive. They have scrimmage games, but not an actual "league". But again, look at those videos and tell me that with the right kind of marketing, that wouldn't appeal to Americans. It's fast, it's high scoring, it's athletically spectacular to look at and the rules are very similar to basketball, except instead of a basket you have a goal and a goal keeper in each end. The attacking team has to attack from outside the goal area, but they can jump into the goal area as long as they let go of the ball before they touch the floor again, which can lead to some pretty awesome looking goals, as you saw in the videos. If you're a basketball fan, or you at least understand the game of basketball, you'll grasp the basic rules of team handball within the first 10 minutes of watching a game and again, as you can probably tell from the videos, there's not much risk of you getting bored within those first ten minutes. so - ball movement rules? it looks more like a hands-instead-of-feet version of soccer than basketball to me.
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 27, 2015 21:23:06 GMT
In the Rugby World Cup last night. England 25 Wales 28 England could have made it a draw by taking a penalty kick in the last couple of minutes for 3 more points, instead they tried to get a lineout, catch and drive then a try for 5 points and a win. This naturally failed. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34350871does a draw result in a draw, or does it result in overtime in rugby? some of our sports can end in a draw, others keep going until there is a winner. Except for a quarter fina, semi-final or final the game a draw would have awarded 1 point to either side. Wales in this case got 4 points for their win. The issue is slightly more complicated as there are bonus points in the table awarded if a team wins by scoring more than 4 tries or if they lose by less than 7 . The problem with this World Cup group is it is a group of death, it has the 2nd, 3rd and 4th ranked teams in the world standings Australia, England and Wales respectively and only the first and second placed team will go through to the next stage.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 27, 2015 22:05:57 GMT
so - ball movement rules? it looks more like a hands-instead-of-feet version of soccer than basketball to me. Except for there being goals and goalies, it's not at all like soccer. Ball movement rules are pretty much the same as in basketball. Players can dribble basketball style or pass the ball. If you stop with the ball in your hands, you have to let it go within 3 seconds, either by passing it or taking a shot at the goal. If you dribble again, you're called for double dribbling and you lose the ball. There's also the option to take three steps with the ball in your hand after receiving it or after the last time it hit the floor while dribbling, but this still has to be done within 3 seconds. Those 3 steps are mostly used to get in position for a shot by faking out your opponents. Take more than 3 steps and you get called for travelling and lose the ball. Starting to see the basketball connection? Or at least starting to see that soccer doesn't have rules that come even remotely close? Dribbling is mostly used to get from one end of the court to the other during fast breaks and not so much during the actual attacks. Those are mostly carried out by passing, using your three steps and then either passing again or shooting. There's not as much fancy dribbling as in basketball, which is one of the reasons why the game is so fast paced. Players don't stop mid-court and stand there bouncing the ball, using up a lot of time and trying to dribble around their opponents. It's much faster and much more efficient to pass it and quickly move into position somewhere else to make yourself playable again. The name of the game while on offense is to spread out the defense and make a hole for someone to shoot through. If you look at the floor in the videos, you'll notice there's a semi-circle outside the goal. That's the goal area. Only the goalie is allowed to have his feet on the floor with the ball in his hands inside that area. The defense stays outside the goal area, trying to prevent the offense from getting a clear shot and trying to steal the ball away from them for a fast break in the other direction. This is often done by getting very physical with your opponent - pushing, pulling, "tackling" (which is basically just grabbing your opponent to prevent them from moving and disrupting their rythm and timing while they pass the ball around) and blocking shots. Again, unlike soccer, which is more about just getting in the way and trying to take the ball. The offense uses quick passes, shot fakes and screens to get the defense to make coverage mistakes and open up for a shot. If an offensive player can break through the defense, he's allowed to jump into the goal area to make his shot, but the ball has to leave his hands before he touches the floor. That's why you see all those crazy jumps. The closer you can get to the goalie, the easier it is to get the ball around him. Also, unlike soccer, there's not as much whining. These guys are physically tough, so unless they get a palm directly to the nose or an underarm to the throat or something like that, they keep going. Hell, even if they DO get a palm to the nose, many of them will still try to push through and get a shot off and won't complain about the pain until they've seen whether it went in or not. These dudes will jump through defenders, into the goal area nose first and throw a screwball past the goalie before landing on the hardwood floor, chest first with no padding. One of the best defensive players we've ever had on our national team once stated that if he ever came home from a tournament without a broken nose, there would be no excuse for not coming home with gold medals and a trophy, because that would mean they'd only been up against weak opponents. These guys are not wimps! Again, unlike in soccer, the ball is never moved backwards. Once you're attacking, the ball stays on your opponent's side of the court and you're constantly looking for a chance to score. There's also a time limit on how long you can run your offense before you're forced to take a shot. This is to prevent teams from refusing to attack and just passing the ball around indefinitely, playing the clock. That whole soccer thing where someone scores in the first 5 minutes and then they spend the next 85 minutes kicking the ball around to prevent the other team from scoring, that doesn't happen in handball. The rules don't allow it. Once you're on the offensive, you typically get 30-60 seconds to set up your shot. If the ref decides you're just buying time and not actively attacking, he sticks his hand in the air to signal that you have 5 seconds to finish your attack, so you either take a shot, or the ref blows the whistle and you lose the ball. As I said, apart from there being goals and goalies, you really can't compare this sport to soccer at all!
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 27, 2015 22:18:26 GMT
Here's another little video to illustrate my point about this game being much more physical than soccer will ever be. Note the guy at 0:53 being pancaked and hit in the face. He still tries to get a shot off. There's another one at 1:47 where Danish national team player Jesper Nøddesbo (playing for Barcelona in that clip) tries to get a shot in, even though he's almost horizontal in the air because of a tackle. Right towards the end is one more of the French national team player Cedric Sorhaindo who actually succeeds in getting the ball in while two players try to drag him to the floor.
Speaking of Sorhaindo, I've never seen that man come out for a post game news conference without at least a black eye. IIRC, he played the final of the European Championship in 2014 with a broken nose, two black eyes, a dislocated thumb on his left hand and a broken pinky on his right and was still instrumental in helping France secure the win.
It's worth mentioning that many of these tackles will result in 2 minute suspensions and some might even result in a red card (player permanently thrown out of the game), but this is not at all uncommon for the sport. Not even with the women. They play just as hard as the men.
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Post by the light works on Sept 28, 2015 0:18:34 GMT
so - ball movement rules? it looks more like a hands-instead-of-feet version of soccer than basketball to me. Except for there being goals and goalies, it's not at all like soccer. Ball movement rules are pretty much the same as in basketball. Players can dribble basketball style or pass the ball. If you stop with the ball in your hands, you have to let it go within 3 seconds, either by passing it or taking a shot at the goal. If you dribble again, you're called for double dribbling and you lose the ball. There's also the option to take three steps with the ball in your hand after receiving it or after the last time it hit the floor while dribbling, but this still has to be done within 3 seconds. Those 3 steps are mostly used to get in position for a shot by faking out your opponents. Take more than 3 steps and you get called for travelling and lose the ball. Starting to see the basketball connection? Or at least starting to see that soccer doesn't have rules that come even remotely close? Dribbling is mostly used to get from one end of the court to the other during fast breaks and not so much during the actual attacks. Those are mostly carried out by passing, using your three steps and then either passing again or shooting. There's not as much fancy dribbling as in basketball, which is one of the reasons why the game is so fast paced. Players don't stop mid-court and stand there bouncing the ball, using up a lot of time and trying to dribble around their opponents. It's much faster and much more efficient to pass it and quickly move into position somewhere else to make yourself playable again. The name of the game while on offense is to spread out the defense and make a hole for someone to shoot through. If you look at the floor in the videos, you'll notice there's a semi-circle outside the goal. That's the goal area. Only the goalie is allowed to have his feet on the floor with the ball in his hands inside that area. The defense stays outside the goal area, trying to prevent the offense from getting a clear shot and trying to steal the ball away from them for a fast break in the other direction. This is often done by getting very physical with your opponent - pushing, pulling, "tackling" (which is basically just grabbing your opponent to prevent them from moving and disrupting their rythm and timing while they pass the ball around) and blocking shots. Again, unlike soccer, which is more about just getting in the way and trying to take the ball. The offense uses quick passes, shot fakes and screens to get the defense to make coverage mistakes and open up for a shot. If an offensive player can break through the defense, he's allowed to jump into the goal area to make his shot, but the ball has to leave his hands before he touches the floor. That's why you see all those crazy jumps. The closer you can get to the goalie, the easier it is to get the ball around him. Also, unlike soccer, there's not as much whining. These guys are physically tough, so unless they get a palm directly to the nose or an underarm to the throat or something like that, they keep going. Hell, even if they DO get a palm to the nose, many of them will still try to push through and get a shot off and won't complain about the pain until they've seen whether it went in or not. These dudes will jump through defenders, into the goal area nose first and throw a screwball past the goalie before landing on the hardwood floor, chest first with no padding. One of the best defensive players we've ever had on our national team once stated that if he ever came home from a tournament without a broken nose, there would be no excuse for not coming home with gold medals and a trophy, because that would mean they'd only been up against weak opponents. These guys are not wimps! Again, unlike in soccer, the ball is never moved backwards. Once you're attacking, the ball stays on your opponent's side of the court and you're constantly looking for a chance to score. There's also a time limit on how long you can run your offense before you're forced to take a shot. This is to prevent teams from refusing to attack and just passing the ball around indefinitely, playing the clock. That whole soccer thing where someone scores in the first 5 minutes and then they spend the next 85 minutes kicking the ball around to prevent the other team from scoring, that doesn't happen in handball. The rules don't allow it. Once you're on the offensive, you typically get 30-60 seconds to set up your shot. If the ref decides you're just buying time and not actively attacking, he sticks his hand in the air to signal that you have 5 seconds to finish your attack, so you either take a shot, or the ref blows the whistle and you lose the ball. As I said, apart from there being goals and goalies, you really can't compare this sport to soccer at all! not to pro soccer, maybe. and in basketball, a guy can plant his feet on the floor and hold the ball as long as he wants, as long as he doesn't move both feet. - either way, it is sort of a basketball/soccer hybrid.
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Post by the light works on Sept 28, 2015 0:24:49 GMT
Here's another little video to illustrate my point about this game being much more physical than soccer will ever be. Note the guy at 0:53 being pancaked and hit in the face. He still tries to get a shot off. There's another one at 1:47 where Danish national team player Jesper Nøddesbo (playing for Barcelona in that clip) tries to get a shot in, even though he's almost horizontal in the air because of a tackle. Right towards the end is one more of the French national team player Cedric Sorhaindo who actually succeeds in getting the ball in while two players try to drag him to the floor. Speaking of Sorhaindo, I've never seen that man come out for a post game news conference without at least a black eye. IIRC, he played the final of the European Championship in 2014 with a broken nose, two black eyes, a dislocated thumb on his left hand and a broken pinky on his right and was still instrumental in helping France secure the win. It's worth mentioning that many of these tackles will result in 2 minute suspensions and some might even result in a red card (player permanently thrown out of the game), but this is not at all uncommon for the sport. Not even with the women. They play just as hard as the men. they seem to do the opposite of soccer. the guy that got nailed tries to pretend nothing happened, and the guy that hit him raises his hand to claim credit.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 28, 2015 1:18:02 GMT
not to pro soccer, maybe. and in basketball, a guy can plant his feet on the floor and hold the ball as long as he wants, as long as he doesn't move both feet. - either way, it is sort of a basketball/soccer hybrid. You can call it that if you want, but the pace of the game is much more like basketball, which is why - at least to me - it seems like a sport Americans could find a lot more interesting than most other sports not traditionally played in the US. they seem to do the opposite of soccer. the guy that got nailed tries to pretend nothing happened, and the guy that hit him raises his hand to claim credit. Yes and no. If you claim credit for doing something nasty to another player, you're generally frowned upon. Sportsmanship is a big part of this game and if you get a reputation for being THAT guy, you can easily end up getting kicked off the team, because no team wants to win that way and have that reputation. If an illegal hit is accidentally made - and most of them really are accidental - most players will aplogize immediately and offer their opponent a hand to get them up off the floor. I've even heard of players visiting opponents they've injured in the hospital because they feel bad about what's happened. That's not something you see or hear about very often in other sports, but it's just the level of respect most of these players have for each other and the realization that it might as well have been you in that hospital bed with an ACL tear and you'd like it if the guy who hurt you showed that kind of remorse and respect. Most of these players start as kids and good sportsmanship is something they've been taught from as early as age 4 or 5. And part of that good sportsmanship upbringing is that you don't throw a hissy fit on the floor like a soccer player to try and get a penalty either. If you're not hurt, you get up and you get back in the game as fast as possible, because the other team has already taken the ball and are headed for your end of the court, so while you're on the floor, whining like a baby, you're hanging your team mates out to dry by letting them do your job for you in the other end. With a game this fast paced, that can easily result in a quick score for your opponent and a loss for your team and you don't want to be THAT guy either.
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Post by the light works on Sept 28, 2015 1:36:33 GMT
not to pro soccer, maybe. and in basketball, a guy can plant his feet on the floor and hold the ball as long as he wants, as long as he doesn't move both feet. - either way, it is sort of a basketball/soccer hybrid. You can call it that if you want, but the pace of the game is much more like basketball, which is why - at least to me - it seems like a sport Americans could find a lot more interesting than most other sports not traditionally played in the US. they seem to do the opposite of soccer. the guy that got nailed tries to pretend nothing happened, and the guy that hit him raises his hand to claim credit. Yes and no. If you claim credit for doing something nasty to another player, you're generally frowned upon. Sportsmanship is a big part of this game and if you get a reputation for being THAT guy, you can easily end up getting kicked off the team, because no team wants to win that way and have that reputation. If an illegal hit is accidentally made - and most of them really are accidental - most players will aplogize immediately and offer their opponent a hand to get them up off the floor. I've even heard of players visiting opponents they've injured in the hospital because they feel bad about what's happened. That's not something you see or hear about very often in other sports, but it's just the level of respect most of these players have for each other and the realization that it might as well have been you in that hospital bed with an ACL tear and you'd like it if the guy who hurt you showed that kind of remorse and respect. Most of these players start as kids and good sportsmanship is something they've been taught from as early as age 4 or 5. And part of that good sportsmanship upbringing is that you don't throw a hissy fit on the floor like a soccer player to try and get a penalty either. If you're not hurt, you get up and you get back in the game as fast as possible, because the other team has already taken the ball and are headed for your end of the court, so while you're on the floor, whining like a baby, you're hanging your team mates out to dry by letting them do your job for you in the other end. With a game this fast paced, that can easily result in a quick score for your opponent and a loss for your team and you don't want to be THAT guy either. I was being a bit facetious. the vignettes I saw, the one who tackled the ballcarrier looked like he was admitting to fouling him.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 28, 2015 12:22:18 GMT
If anyone is interested in watching just 10-15 minutes of a full game to get a feel for how it's played, go to YouTube and search for "EHF EURO 2014". There are full games in HD from last year's European Championships with English commentary.
Look for games with France, Spain, Denmark, Germany and Croatia to get the best of the best. The quarter final between Denmark and Croatia was a particularly good game. Very equal for most of it and our star player Mikkel Hansen was more or less taken out of the game by good Croatian man coverage, forcing everyone else to step up and him to make a ton of assists, instead of scoring himself.
We lost the championship to France in the next game, but other than that we had a great tournament, winning every game up until then.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Sept 28, 2015 14:56:24 GMT
Van Gaal knows. What some of the players didnt like was his almost immediate "My way" approach, discipline. He has led several teams to high positions. I am a sort of Armchair Supporter of Manchester United, I hate the owner{s}, but like what the team can do. But as Van Gall has announced he wont be with them after next season, I have to hope the next manager is good enough. Giggs?... yeah, someday, I dont think he is ready yet. As for where they are, thanks to Man CITY getting a 4-1 disgraceful drubbing down at Tottenham, beaten by a much better team on the day, I have to admit I am keen to meet the fans that usually have it all smug over their apparent "lead" over United... Oh no you dont!. Boo-Yah, get back down there, Man United, despite their frequent obituary from many sources, are far from "Dead". They took a 3-0 lead over troubled sunderland, again, "Not good enough" to the critics, who were out to demand telephone-number scores against a team struggling to stay in the league... Yeah, sunderland have trouble, but better be a fan of them than City, Who's glory days are OVER right of now.... I have to say that in fairness, because thats what they said about United the first time they dropped a point from head of the premier league. The Truth. and irrespective of alignment, an un-biased view. You cant predict anything before Christmas in the leagues, nothing at all, so why try? The pundits provoked response when they predicted a two-horse race this year before a ball was kicked between Chelsea and Man-City, Neither of which are showing that promise. All teams have been re-structured during the transfer window, it takes time for changes to settle in, and during the first few months, you get to play other teams with as much chance as you. You cant predict a win EVERYTHING against equal sides?...
Its not even a three horse race, its the premier league, out of the 20 odd teams up there hoping for the top, 10 will be there with a real chance of that. Man Utd?.. Will ALWAYS be in the top 10, mostly in the top 5. Just not when Moyes is in charge.
If sportswriters were asked what color the sky was, they'd probably say brown... New York Yankees vs New York Mets The Yankees are expected to be first place every year and teach every team they play a lesson along the way...because the owners pay enough money to make that happen. On the other hand, the Mets are usually seen as the lowly younger brothers of the Yankees, without much for expectations. Back in July, the sportswriters were practically engraving the Yankees name on the World Series trophy while penning the Mets epitath. The season ain't over til October... The Yankees are currently second in their division to the Toronto Blue Jays. The best the Yankees can hope for at this time is to get the Wild Card to make the playoffs. On the other hand, the New York Mets have captured their division as of Saturday night (with eight games left in the season). I'm a Mets fan who will gladly disparage the Yankees anytime the chance arises. A Bit of History Yes, the Yankees (founded 1901) have history on their side and have been in New York longer. Back in the day, New York actually had three baseball teams: New York Yankees, New York Giants, & Brooklyn Dodgers. Life was good. But, then Major League Baseball (MLB) expanded all the way to the west coast. With promises of big crowds & beautiful weather, the Brooklyn Dodgers skipped town to become the Los Angeles Dodgers (1957) while the New York Giants moved out & became the San Francisco Giants (1957). New Yorkers were left heartbroken with only one team to cheer for. While the Dodgers & Giants fans no longer had a local team to root, they certainly weren't about to convert to Yankees fans. So, baseball pergatory followed temporarily. In 1961, MLB decided to award New York with the rights to have an expansion team and the Mets were born. The beleagured Giants/Dodgers fans rejoiced. For 1962-1964, the Mets played at the Polo Ground (former home of the New York Giants). From 1964-2008, they played in Shea Stadium (what's that trough doing in the mens' room??) In 2009, the Mets began playing in Citi Field. Yankees fans will always see the Mets as the overeager younger always trying to steal their spotlight. Mets fans will always see the Yankees as bullies with too much money.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Sept 28, 2015 18:18:47 GMT
breesfan... what happened to the Saints this week? @oz... I like your commentary/post from: Sep 26, 2015 at 7:41pm
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 28, 2015 21:38:38 GMT
breesfan... what happened to the Saints this week? @oz... I like your commentary/post from: Sep 26, 2015 at 7:41pm Would that be the one about Europeans getting over the "foot" part of football and actually trying to understand the game before they knock it? I think the time stamps on the posts are region specific, because on my end, I can't see that I posted anything with that time stamp.
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 28, 2015 21:49:54 GMT
breesfan... what happened to the Saints this week? @oz... I like your commentary/post from: Sep 26, 2015 at 7:41pm Would that be the one about Europeans getting over the "foot" part of football and actually trying to understand the game before they knock it? I think the time stamps on the posts are region specific, because on my end, I can't see that I posted anything with that time stamp. As a Brit who is a rugby fan I don't find it a problem at all. My team is Saracens Football Club, it is a member of the Rugby Football Union, RFU . Football is a name for a number of sports rugby union, rugby league, American football, Australian Rules football, Association Football and Gaellic football are all examples of various types.
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Post by OziRiS on Sept 28, 2015 21:59:41 GMT
Would that be the one about Europeans getting over the "foot" part of football and actually trying to understand the game before they knock it? I think the time stamps on the posts are region specific, because on my end, I can't see that I posted anything with that time stamp. As a Brit who is a rugby fan I don't find it a problem at all. My team is Saracens Football Club, it is a member of the Rugby Football Union, RFU . Football is a name for a number of sports rugby union, rugby league, American football, Australian Rules football, Association Football and Gaellic football are all examples of various types. Right. And the name "football" has been around in some form or other for much longer than what we know today as "association football" or "soccer", so why soccer fans get all bent out of shape over anything other than their prefered sport being called "football", I'll just never understand. Then again, if you look at how some soccer fans act before, during and after games, maybe it's not all that difficult to understand. The ones who do the rioting are very simple minded folks!
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 28, 2015 22:19:53 GMT
As a Brit who is a rugby fan I don't find it a problem at all. My team is Saracens Football Club, it is a member of the Rugby Football Union, RFU . Football is a name for a number of sports rugby union, rugby league, American football, Australian Rules football, Association Football and Gaellic football are all examples of various types. Right. And the name "football" has been around in some form or other for much longer than what we know today as "association football" or "soccer", so why soccer fans get all bent out of shape over anything other than their prefered sport being called "football", I'll just never understand. Then again, if you look at how some soccer fans act before, during and after games, maybe it's not all that difficult to understand. The ones who do the rioting are very simple minded folks! it's reason I prefer rugby to football, crowd behaviour I was at Wembley for the match between New Zealand and Argentina we were there as neutrals in a crowd withNew Zealanders behind us Argentinians next to and this and the beer was flowing we had a light conversation cheered the other players and there was not the swearing etc at a soccer match.. A round was brought by some nice New Zealand blocks which included the Argetines as well. .
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Post by the light works on Sept 29, 2015 4:45:56 GMT
Right. And the name "football" has been around in some form or other for much longer than what we know today as "association football" or "soccer", so why soccer fans get all bent out of shape over anything other than their prefered sport being called "football", I'll just never understand. Then again, if you look at how some soccer fans act before, during and after games, maybe it's not all that difficult to understand. The ones who do the rioting are very simple minded folks! it's reason I prefer rugby to football, crowd behaviour I was at Wembley for the match between New Zealand and Argentina we were there as neutrals in a crowd withNew Zealanders behind us Argentinians next to and this and the beer was flowing we had a light conversation cheered the other players and there was not the swearing etc at a soccer match.. A round was brought by some nice New Zealand blocks which included the Argetines as well. . I'm guessing for the association football fans, it's just another excuse to start a brawl.
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