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Post by WhutScreenName on Feb 29, 2016 13:48:55 GMT
I was referring to the people being passed. What I meant was, they either don't want to be passed and therefore speed up (because they are jerks) OR they didn't realize how slow they were going until someone tries to pass, resulting in them speeding up as well.
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Post by the light works on Feb 29, 2016 14:42:01 GMT
I was referring to the people being passed. What I meant was, they either don't want to be passed and therefore speed up (because they are jerks) OR they didn't realize how slow they were going until someone tries to pass, resulting in them speeding up as well. yeah, I was being clear. - and the root of the question is whether it is as pervasive as it feels.
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Post by the light works on May 19, 2018 1:17:10 GMT
waking this back up, because I commented on it with the friends we were on vacation with, and he mentioned someone else he knew had formulated the theory of road friction, which states that roads which are perceived as being narrower tend to cause people to drive slower, regardless of whether the road will actually support a higher speed.
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Post by silverdragon on May 19, 2018 15:29:18 GMT
waking this back up, because I commented on it with the friends we were on vacation with, and he mentioned someone else he knew had formulated the theory of road friction, which states that roads which are perceived as being narrower tend to cause people to drive slower, regardless of whether the road will actually support a higher speed. I like this working theory. If the road has high hedges "inches" from the carriageway both sides, narrow country lane, even if you could see quite well, people may slow down, especially when passing. I seem to remember that this is quite liable to be true from what I remember, but then again, a sudden truck the size of what I drive[Drove?.] on a road barely wide enough for two VW Beetles to pass, dont half slow down the traffic.....
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Post by the light works on May 19, 2018 15:50:11 GMT
waking this back up, because I commented on it with the friends we were on vacation with, and he mentioned someone else he knew had formulated the theory of road friction, which states that roads which are perceived as being narrower tend to cause people to drive slower, regardless of whether the road will actually support a higher speed. I like this working theory. If the road has high hedges "inches" from the carriageway both sides, narrow country lane, even if you could see quite well, people may slow down, especially when passing. I seem to remember that this is quite liable to be true from what I remember, but then again, a sudden truck the size of what I drive[Drove?.] on a road barely wide enough for two VW Beetles to pass, dont half slow down the traffic..... as the truck is driving with two or three wheels off on the shoulder to avoid the SUV that won't get off the center line... yeah. it happened.
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Post by silverdragon on May 19, 2018 16:00:46 GMT
I like this working theory. If the road has high hedges "inches" from the carriageway both sides, narrow country lane, even if you could see quite well, people may slow down, especially when passing. I seem to remember that this is quite liable to be true from what I remember, but then again, a sudden truck the size of what I drive[Drove?.] on a road barely wide enough for two VW Beetles to pass, dont half slow down the traffic..... as the truck is driving with two or three wheels off on the shoulder to avoid the SUV that won't get off the center line... yeah. it happened. "Nearly" had that happen a few weeks back when a "new" 18 plate Range-Wover tried tgo bully the centre line and push me into the gutter... except I didnt swerve to avoid them and they couldn't pass without getting back over their own side, so we end up stopped, and me pointing at the camera... He pulled over. I dont think he liked me swearing at him as I called him a [duckling] fool?.. But he did that thing of just staring straight ahead trying to pretend I didnt exist thing that people do when they are in the wrong?. Thing is, replacing his front wing and bumper, thats worth more than my whole car is worth.... and I dont care, because my insurance is cheep and NCD protected?.
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Post by the light works on May 19, 2018 16:15:49 GMT
as the truck is driving with two or three wheels off on the shoulder to avoid the SUV that won't get off the center line... yeah. it happened. "Nearly" had that happen a few weeks back when a "new" 18 plate Range-Wover tried tgo bully the centre line and push me into the gutter... except I didnt swerve to avoid them and they couldn't pass without getting back over their own side, so we end up stopped, and me pointing at the camera... He pulled over. I dont think he liked me swearing at him as I called him a [duckling] fool?.. But he did that thing of just staring straight ahead trying to pretend I didnt exist thing that people do when they are in the wrong?. Thing is, replacing his front wing and bumper, thats worth more than my whole car is worth.... and I dont care, because my insurance is cheep and NCD protected?. problem comes when the responsible driver is driving the more valuable car.
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Post by silverdragon on May 20, 2018 9:19:11 GMT
"Nearly" had that happen a few weeks back when a "new" 18 plate Range-Wover tried tgo bully the centre line and push me into the gutter... except I didnt swerve to avoid them and they couldn't pass without getting back over their own side, so we end up stopped, and me pointing at the camera... He pulled over. I dont think he liked me swearing at him as I called him a [duckling] fool?.. But he did that thing of just staring straight ahead trying to pretend I didnt exist thing that people do when they are in the wrong?. Thing is, replacing his front wing and bumper, thats worth more than my whole car is worth.... and I dont care, because my insurance is cheep and NCD protected?. problem comes when the responsible driver is driving the more valuable car. The term for that around here is "Banger racing". Friend of mine has a plan to go get a retired transit van, armour it up, and go hunt them banger racers, see how many we can get off the road, before we get stopped ourself?. Is it a service to the community to punt the no-tax-no-mot-no-licence bangers into the nearest wall?.
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Post by the light works on May 20, 2018 11:25:02 GMT
problem comes when the responsible driver is driving the more valuable car. The term for that around here is "Banger racing". Friend of mine has a plan to go get a retired transit van, armour it up, and go hunt them banger racers, see how many we can get off the road, before we get stopped ourself?. Is it a service to the community to punt the no-tax-no-mot-no-licence bangers into the nearest wall?. here, the law is if there's no insurance, the car gets impounded until there is and the fines are paid. the ones who whined they were being picked on got met with a resounding chorus of "ain't no right to drive." but I'd estimate the cost of repairing the motorhome to be up to ten times the cost of replacing the average "beater" and motorhomes ain't exactly built to take a hit - and our liability laws typically say if you have the ability to avoid the crash, you have the liability if you allow it to happen. (Beater - a car where the scrap value is higher than the resale value)
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Post by GTCGreg on May 20, 2018 14:53:03 GMT
I don't believe that most drivers do this on purpose, it's just that they drive in their own little bubble. Unless you are in their direct field of view (mirrors don't count) you don't exist.
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Post by the light works on May 20, 2018 15:18:12 GMT
I don't believe that most drivers do this on purpose, it's just that they drive in their own little bubble. Unless you are in their direct field of view (mirrors don't count) you don't exist. well, you're right that most people don't wake up saying "let's see who I can be a totally oblivious jerk to, today" but you have to admit, a big white box on wheels isn't exactly the least conspicuous vehicle there is.
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Post by GTCGreg on May 20, 2018 16:35:30 GMT
well, you're right that most people don't wake up saying "let's see who I can be a totally oblivious jerk to, today" To some, it just comes naturally.
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Post by the light works on May 20, 2018 23:25:29 GMT
well, you're right that most people don't wake up saying "let's see who I can be a totally oblivious jerk to, today" To some, it just comes naturally. have to admit, it WAS nice the times I've been assigned to drive a truck that more or less resembled an urban tank.
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Post by silverdragon on May 21, 2018 6:31:33 GMT
well, you're right that most people don't wake up saying "let's see who I can be a totally oblivious jerk to, today" To some, it just comes naturally. To some, mostly drivers of Audi these days, they dont consider being a jerk to be a problem, because they see the target of their jerkiness to be less than human, we dont count to them unless they can have a meeting to decide your problems are not any consideration of theirs. These people are jerks of the highest award, they are the same people who are nasty to shop workers if they dont get served straight away, they think its their right to cut in queues, "Because", and they always want served more than they pay for.
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Post by GTCGreg on May 21, 2018 6:36:40 GMT
Yes, we have those types here also. Except their car of choice is BMW.
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Post by silverdragon on May 22, 2018 9:26:23 GMT
Yes, we have those types here also. Except their car of choice is BMW. Then take note, because its coming your way, the choice of weapon for the berk in the Merc {Mercedes} that had a twrp in a beamer has now moved on to a "chav-mobile" of a tarted up audi, typically the styling is "murdered out" black-on-black-on-black, as in tinted windows on black upper and black lower, sometimes in Matt black paint, because the twerps believe that makes them radar-proof, [myth busted, it isnt...] The typical Audi driver will be usually noticed at the front of the queue or at the side of the queue trying to push in, HAS to be "there first", every single trip is a world record attempt at that road, if they can get away with the loudest exhaust in the locality, they have it. Variations on the theme. Colour, Grey, "Executive" grey, as in the same colour as fog and mist, again tinted windows, so you cant see inside the back, "spotlessly clean", these cars spend more time in a car wash than TLW does on a typical week, have "ultra cool" wheels, low profile tyres, that they think look good, but are as more uncomfortable on the ride that strapping a skateboard underneath a milk crate on a cobbled road, its all about the look, but the engine is highly tuned, because what use having a car like that if you dont drive it at world record beating lap times. White, ICE white, maybe a very small tint of blue in that, typically on a rag-top, this may gain a lot of popularity in USA in sunnier climates because when the top goes down the price goes up, but in that, its always a "Minimalist" interior. There are no other "fashionable" colours. Except the Orange one. This will be a race replica so expect to be able to see Brembo Brakes inside the wheels in dayglow colours usually bright red, but they are re-coloured if that dont work with other colours, you will see "Bucket seats" with a fashionable makers name on them, four or five point dayglow harnesses, and this is the car that holds the world record for going fast with no apparent need. Other variations are "All of the above" in Rag-Top version. Convertibles, not that popular in UK, but you see more of them when the sun shines that you see the whole of the rest of the year. All WILL have the LED lights lit and in use as running lights in all weather, because the audi lights are "sculpted" into the audi "look", you can tell an audi in the queue of cars behind you just by the shape of the LED strip light around the headlights. All WILL have the best sound system they can afford, to annoy you with constant pounding all sounds the same type "toons". An audi not making unnecessary noise is the one parked up whilst the owner is shopping. Most are "de-badged" at the back, no alphabet spaghetti, just the Audi interlinked loops, and a numberplate. The move from Mercedes to BMW to Audi is a progression of fashion and false "cool", so beware, its coming to the streets near you, soon. Typical audi owner, "sharp" dressed, restrained cool look, has a set of sunglasses somewhere, but mostly all fur coat and no knickers as my Gran would say, its all show, all they have is on credit, and thats all.
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Post by the light works on May 22, 2018 14:09:20 GMT
Yes, we have those types here also. Except their car of choice is BMW. Then take note, because its coming your way, the choice of weapon for the berk in the Merc {Mercedes} that had a twrp in a beamer has now moved on to a "chav-mobile" of a tarted up audi, typically the styling is "murdered out" black-on-black-on-black, as in tinted windows on black upper and black lower, sometimes in Matt black paint, because the twerps believe that makes them radar-proof, [myth busted, it isnt...] The typical Audi driver will be usually noticed at the front of the queue or at the side of the queue trying to push in, HAS to be "there first", every single trip is a world record attempt at that road, if they can get away with the loudest exhaust in the locality, they have it. Variations on the theme. Colour, Grey, "Executive" grey, as in the same colour as fog and mist, again tinted windows, so you cant see inside the back, "spotlessly clean", these cars spend more time in a car wash than TLW does on a typical week, have "ultra cool" wheels, low profile tyres, that they think look good, but are as more uncomfortable on the ride that strapping a skateboard underneath a milk crate on a cobbled road, its all about the look, but the engine is highly tuned, because what use having a car like that if you dont drive it at world record beating lap times. White, ICE white, maybe a very small tint of blue in that, typically on a rag-top, this may gain a lot of popularity in USA in sunnier climates because when the top goes down the price goes up, but in that, its always a "Minimalist" interior. There are no other "fashionable" colours. Except the Orange one. This will be a race replica so expect to be able to see Brembo Brakes inside the wheels in dayglow colours usually bright red, but they are re-coloured if that dont work with other colours, you will see "Bucket seats" with a fashionable makers name on them, four or five point dayglow harnesses, and this is the car that holds the world record for going fast with no apparent need. Other variations are "All of the above" in Rag-Top version. Convertibles, not that popular in UK, but you see more of them when the sun shines that you see the whole of the rest of the year. All WILL have the LED lights lit and in use as running lights in all weather, because the audi lights are "sculpted" into the audi "look", you can tell an audi in the queue of cars behind you just by the shape of the LED strip light around the headlights. All WILL have the best sound system they can afford, to annoy you with constant pounding all sounds the same type "toons". An audi not making unnecessary noise is the one parked up whilst the owner is shopping. Most are "de-badged" at the back, no alphabet spaghetti, just the Audi interlinked loops, and a numberplate. The move from Mercedes to BMW to Audi is a progression of fashion and false "cool", so beware, its coming to the streets near you, soon. Typical audi owner, "sharp" dressed, restrained cool look, has a set of sunglasses somewhere, but mostly all fur coat and no knickers as my Gran would say, its all show, all they have is on credit, and thats all. your chavs must have better credit than ours. here, it's a low end VW or Honda with a "turbo muffler" and stickers all over it. it used to be fashionable to have one fender primered to make it look like it had gotten into a wall and had a half finished repair. I don't know if you remember the "exhaust whistle" prank that was popular among kids here when I was a kid, but now they have something similar that kids put in their exhaust on purpose to make it sound like they have a badly tuned turbocharger. the badging gets taken off so people can't see it is the lowest trim package for the model.
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Post by silverdragon on May 23, 2018 10:04:17 GMT
Our "Chav" is a childish adult who now primarily has enough to be semi-affluent but not enough to buy their own home so is typically a mid 20's upwards living with parents, or in a flat, rented. The thing with turbo whistle? fake is fail... Its that kind of noise the big boys make of "Call that an engine we got real engines", and We have Real Turbo's over here, we still delight in getting s small compact sub 2ltr engine to get the same kind of performance as your honking V8's, because our cars are more compact, lighter, often quicker, and more nimble. 3ltr is "Huge" to a typical family 5 seat car. Turbo "Howl" is not seen as a good thing, turbo presence of a real turbo spooling up is easily recognisable, so fake noise is seen as just that, "phake". Performance here is numbers, 0-60 in sub 4 seconds is impressive, to get to the ultimate level of being "Boss", get a small 2ltre to do that and more and keep up all day long with v6/v8/etc?.
BTW, the V8 is a rare beast over here, its bloody noisy, the whine of a well tuned engine thats 4cylinder 6 cylinder, V6 perfect tune, they make a noise thats just delightful... Big Brash Cylinder bashing and industrial clanking of a V8 is a bit "Vulgar" to the tuner boys?.
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Post by GTCGreg on May 23, 2018 13:05:44 GMT
V-8's are becoming less common over here also. But then there is my wife's excursion with its V-10.
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Post by the light works on May 23, 2018 14:25:19 GMT
Our "Chav" is a childish adult who now primarily has enough to be semi-affluent but not enough to buy their own home so is typically a mid 20's upwards living with parents, or in a flat, rented. The thing with turbo whistle? fake is fail... Its that kind of noise the big boys make of "Call that an engine we got real engines", and We have Real Turbo's over here, we still delight in getting s small compact sub 2ltr engine to get the same kind of performance as your honking V8's, because our cars are more compact, lighter, often quicker, and more nimble. 3ltr is "Huge" to a typical family 5 seat car. Turbo "Howl" is not seen as a good thing, turbo presence of a real turbo spooling up is easily recognisable, so fake noise is seen as just that, "phake". Performance here is numbers, 0-60 in sub 4 seconds is impressive, to get to the ultimate level of being "Boss", get a small 2ltre to do that and more and keep up all day long with v6/v8/etc?. BTW, the V8 is a rare beast over here, its bloody noisy, the whine of a well tuned engine thats 4cylinder 6 cylinder, V6 perfect tune, they make a noise thats just delightful... Big Brash Cylinder bashing and industrial clanking of a V8 is a bit "Vulgar" to the tuner boys?. now, see, to us, a loud four banger is brash. as in the kid on the drive home with the unbadged rabbit with the big sticker on the back saying "blown" and the engine noise like throwing the chain on a badly tuned saw. of course, he HAD to put in the clutch and stomp the gas under the overpass. I dearly wanted to open the window and tell him I could recommend a good mechanic to fix his blown engine. seriously, my lawnmower sounds off with more authority than that. I see part of your problem. you guys don't know how to make an engine that just runs this is how a v-8 is supposed to sound.
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