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Post by silverdragon on Aug 16, 2017 9:39:13 GMT
This is a slight sideways step to the fear sound, but this is taking sound and playing with it.
Simple scenario, take a set dressed with say some Pirate type pirate ship that may or may not have spent its recent life as a wreck at the bottom of the sea, dress with fake skeletons etc, have some fun here.
Invite a crowd to walk through one by one, or in small groups.
Play the music from Pirate of the Caribbean over the top, one of the lighter light hearted bits of that music, as "mood music".
Have a heavily emblazoned skull and crossbones door as an optional exit at the far end, you will see why in a moment... but make it look sort of evil, a definite "You should not open this door" look...
Take a second crowd , change the music, to a "Darker" sound track, maybe one from a well known horror movie. That second optional exit?.. see how many are willing to open that door against the "escape route"....
Take a poll of how people feel on viewing the set, and how "Haunted" the presence of the music has made it feel.
You may also play around with the lighting to see if its just the music but also the light that alters peoples perception?.
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Post by GTCGreg on Aug 16, 2017 13:06:36 GMT
I have no doubt that both sound and lighting would have a significant effect on how people perceive the situation.
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Post by the light works on Aug 16, 2017 14:09:31 GMT
I think play the pirates main theme for two groups, but underlay one of them with "the fear sound" and put a jump scare at the end of the tour.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 17, 2017 7:47:20 GMT
I know many of us here will know that the sound track of a movie is just as important as the voice script. This is for the younger viewers who may not have made that mental jump yet?.
As for "The fear sound", yes, but what is it?. I know a few sound engineers who have played about with various pitch variations to see if they can isolate it.. But as of yet, other than the high-pitch inaudible to adults one that they use as anti-cat or anti-rodent garden pest control that Kids below a certain age can "Hear" and encourages them to go elsewhere, I havnt yet heard one myself that makes me uneasy, either audible or not. Only the ones that hurt the hearing, and that isnt Fear, its just the same as having to sit in a restaurant or supermarket till queue whilst the kid in the next isle screams some top "C's" because they cant get what they want?.. Fingernails on a blackboard type pain in the ear....
So what is the actual "Sound of fear" and have they managed to find one yet?.
Or do they just default to the "Jagged" bit from that certain horror film in everyone's conciousness?.. Which is, in its self, a "Learned" queue for "Something is about to happen"?...
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Post by the light works on Aug 17, 2017 13:18:14 GMT
I know many of us here will know that the sound track of a movie is just as important as the voice script. This is for the younger viewers who may not have made that mental jump yet?. As for "The fear sound", yes, but what is it?. I know a few sound engineers who have played about with various pitch variations to see if they can isolate it.. But as of yet, other than the high-pitch inaudible to adults one that they use as anti-cat or anti-rodent garden pest control that Kids below a certain age can "Hear" and encourages them to go elsewhere, I havnt yet heard one myself that makes me uneasy, either audible or not. Only the ones that hurt the hearing, and that isnt Fear, its just the same as having to sit in a restaurant or supermarket till queue whilst the kid in the next isle screams some top "C's" because they cant get what they want?.. Fingernails on a blackboard type pain in the ear.... So what is the actual "Sound of fear" and have they managed to find one yet?. Or do they just default to the "Jagged" bit from that certain horror film in everyone's conciousness?.. Which is, in its self, a "Learned" queue for "Something is about to happen"?... the explanation I heard - which comes from a teen mystery (Three Investigators, for those who grew up reading the same books I did) was that the fear sound is a subharmonic - so you are not aware you are hearing anything, but the frequency is such that it registers, and it makes you uneasy. the plot point in the story was that some pipe organs can produce it - which adds the question of whether electromagnetic loudspeakers can reproduce it at all, or if it is so low frequency that you just get pulses from them.
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Post by GTCGreg on Aug 17, 2017 13:48:46 GMT
A number of years ago, my son was blasting some movie soundtrack. I told him I didn't know what movie it came from, but it made me feel like something bad was going to happen. Like the hot water tank was about to explode or something. He just laughed and said, yeah, that's what the composer had in mind.
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Post by the light works on Aug 17, 2017 14:06:03 GMT
A number of years ago, my son was blasting some movie soundtrack. I told him I didn't know what movie it came from, but it made me feel like something bad was going to happen. Like the hot water tank was about to explode or something. He just laughed and said, yeah, that's what the composer had in mind. and that is the part where it is a question of whether that is inherent or trained into us.
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Post by GTCGreg on Aug 17, 2017 14:26:04 GMT
It could also be some instinctive survival thing. I believe that subconsciously, are brains are programmed to want to identify sounds we don't recognize as being friend or foe.
My Jeep is a noisy vehicle. It has more squeaks, creeks and rumbles that you can count. But if one changes or a new one appears, it drives me nuts until I figure out what's causing it.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 18, 2017 6:13:31 GMT
Low frequency... if low frequency "Below that of normal hearing" is the key, why dont I [cr@p] my shorts every time I go in water where there are whales swimming?. They use very low frequency to communicate over very long distance [up to thousands of mile?..] Do "Normal" sound systems and speakers carry such frequency?. Yeah, but "Badly", is the answer from an audiophile that helped me choose the replacement cones for my not cheap AR22BX speakers... I now have silicone cones, guaranteed to last 20 yrs or more, and definitely capable of transmitting any sound ever recorded and available for playback. Just because the designers decided that more is definitely better and why not?. Cheep cardboard cones may limit themselves to the human audio range, because why would you need something you cant hear. On the subject of Pipe organs and sub-audible frequencies, that low low low bass note range is a "Carrier" for other low notes, its helps them propagate, and is also capable of transmitting "Ambience" when playing Toccata and Fuge in D Minor. [..D Minor is D Man with D Lamp?.. .. aww come on, this is decent material here... ] You also get "The shakes", that bit that shakes your inside about, commonly used in many discotheque for the young people these days, a good night is not good unless your insides have been churned better than any washing machine could do. Its that beat that makes you wanna dance.. I dont see many people running screaming away from that type of music?.. well, not young people,, and us olders just amble away gently, we dont run, we just retire gracefully making noises like "Do it need to be THAT loud?.. " We have one in this street who likes to settle his foundations, and everyone elses, with that bass beat that makes rings in yer coffee same as you saw on Jurassic Park. Why?.. because he is an annoying twit. And he has "good" speakers... "Marshal". So Bass rumble being "Fear", maybe if you played that to someone who is used to being in an earthquake zone, and knows the precursors to a decent shake of the mountain, they will "suspect" something, but then again, nature or nurture, is it inherent fear or learned response?. I suspect Learned there?.. as in, I know, because we had a few months back around 2004 [ish] where we had frequent earthshakes around these parts. I could "feel" them starting about 5 mins before the actual shake...
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 18, 2017 6:24:33 GMT
It could also be some instinctive survival thing. I believe that subconsciously, are brains are programmed to want to identify sounds we don't recognize as being friend or foe. My Jeep is a noisy vehicle. It has more squeaks, creeks and rumbles that you can count. But if one changes or a new one appears, it drives me nuts until I figure out what's causing it. Thats the "Driving by the seat of your pants" that our generations know, but them youngsters ignore until they get a warning lamp on the dash?.
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