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Post by Lokifan on May 8, 2014 4:53:51 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on May 8, 2014 5:41:55 GMT
Why?..... a "Jet pack" would be a rocket that delivered a cat. Wouldnt a rocket propelled device be better delivering an explosive payload rather than an angry cat?...
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Post by Cybermortis on May 8, 2014 11:10:34 GMT
I actually did some research into this.
Those are not rockets.
The plan, as written down in a German Artillery guide, was to take a cat. Strap a bag filled with incendiary materials and a (presumably long) match to the cat, then light the fuse. The cat would, it was claimed, automatically run into the nearest city and start fires.
Thankfully there is no evidence that this was ever tried. Probably (judging from the date) not because of moral concerns but because anyone with an ounce of sense would realise that there was probably a greater chance of the cat running back into your camp than in deciding to try and scale a thirty foot stone wall when on fire.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on May 9, 2014 14:16:48 GMT
Using cats as weapons to set fire to towns sounds like a modern variation of an actual technique used by Olga of Kiev back in the 10th-century to deal with rebellious subjects.
Princess Olga was the wife of Igor of Kiev, who was killed by the Drevlians. Upon her husband's death, their son, Svyatoslav, was three years old, making Olga the official ruler of Kievan Rus (later Russia) until he reached adulthood. The Drevlians wanted Olga to marry their Prince Mal, making him the ruler of Kievan Rus, but Olga was determined to remain in power and preserve it for her son.
The Drevlians sent twenty of their best men to persuade Olga to marry their Prince Mal and give up her rule of Kievan Rus. She had them buried alive. Then she sent word to Prince Mal that she accepted the proposal, but required their most distinguished men to accompany her on the journey in order for her people to accept the offer of marriage. The Drevlians sent their best men who governed their land. Upon their arrival, she offered them a warm welcome and an invitation to clean up after their long journey in a bathhouse. After they entered, she locked the doors and set fire to the building, burning them alive.
With the best and wisest men out of the way, she planned to destroy the remaining Drevlians. She invited them to a funeral feast so she could mourn over her husband's grave, where her servants waited on them. After the Drevlians were drunk, Olga's soldiers killed over 5,000 of them. She returned to Kiev and prepared an army to attack the survivors. The Drevlians begged for mercy and offered to pay for their freedom with honey and furs. She asked for three pigeons and three sparrows from each house, since she did not want to burden the villagers any further after the siege. They were happy to comply with such a reasonable request.
Olga then gave to each soldier in her army a pigeon or a sparrow, and ordered them to attach by thread to each pigeon and sparrow a piece of sulfur bound with small pieces of cloth. When night fell, Olga bade her soldiers release the pigeons and the sparrows. So the birds flew to their nests, the pigeons to the cotes, and the sparrows under the eaves. The dove-cotes, the coops, the porches, and the haymows were set on fire. There was not a house that was not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames, because all the houses caught on fire at once. The people fled from the city, and Olga ordered her soldiers to catch them. Thus she took the city and burned it, and captured the elders of the city. Some of the other captives she killed, while some she gave to others as slaves to her followers. The remnant she left to pay tribute.
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Post by the light works on May 9, 2014 15:21:51 GMT
Using cats as weapons to set fire to towns sounds like a modern variation of an actual technique used by Olga of Kiev back in the 10th-century to deal with rebellious subjects. Princess Olga was the wife of Igor of Kiev, who was killed by the Drevlians. Upon her husband's death, their son, Svyatoslav, was three years old, making Olga the official ruler of Kievan Rus (later Russia) until he reached adulthood. The Drevlians wanted Olga to marry their Prince Mal, making him the ruler of Kievan Rus, but Olga was determined to remain in power and preserve it for her son. The Drevlians sent twenty of their best men to persuade Olga to marry their Prince Mal and give up her rule of Kievan Rus. She had them buried alive. Then she sent word to Prince Mal that she accepted the proposal, but required their most distinguished men to accompany her on the journey in order for her people to accept the offer of marriage. The Drevlians sent their best men who governed their land. Upon their arrival, she offered them a warm welcome and an invitation to clean up after their long journey in a bathhouse. After they entered, she locked the doors and set fire to the building, burning them alive. With the best and wisest men out of the way, she planned to destroy the remaining Drevlians. She invited them to a funeral feast so she could mourn over her husband's grave, where her servants waited on them. After the Drevlians were drunk, Olga's soldiers killed over 5,000 of them. She returned to Kiev and prepared an army to attack the survivors. The Drevlians begged for mercy and offered to pay for their freedom with honey and furs. She asked for three pigeons and three sparrows from each house, since she did not want to burden the villagers any further after the siege. They were happy to comply with such a reasonable request. Olga then gave to each soldier in her army a pigeon or a sparrow, and ordered them to attach by thread to each pigeon and sparrow a piece of sulfur bound with small pieces of cloth. When night fell, Olga bade her soldiers release the pigeons and the sparrows. So the birds flew to their nests, the pigeons to the cotes, and the sparrows under the eaves. The dove-cotes, the coops, the porches, and the haymows were set on fire. There was not a house that was not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames, because all the houses caught on fire at once. The people fled from the city, and Olga ordered her soldiers to catch them. Thus she took the city and burned it, and captured the elders of the city. Some of the other captives she killed, while some she gave to others as slaves to her followers. The remnant she left to pay tribute. Prince Mal seems kind of dim and Olga kind of vindictive.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on May 10, 2014 6:51:00 GMT
Using cats as weapons to set fire to towns sounds like a modern variation of an actual technique used by Olga of Kiev back in the 10th-century to deal with rebellious subjects. Princess Olga was the wife of Igor of Kiev, who was killed by the Drevlians. Upon her husband's death, their son, Svyatoslav, was three years old, making Olga the official ruler of Kievan Rus (later Russia) until he reached adulthood. The Drevlians wanted Olga to marry their Prince Mal, making him the ruler of Kievan Rus, but Olga was determined to remain in power and preserve it for her son. The Drevlians sent twenty of their best men to persuade Olga to marry their Prince Mal and give up her rule of Kievan Rus. She had them buried alive. Then she sent word to Prince Mal that she accepted the proposal, but required their most distinguished men to accompany her on the journey in order for her people to accept the offer of marriage. The Drevlians sent their best men who governed their land. Upon their arrival, she offered them a warm welcome and an invitation to clean up after their long journey in a bathhouse. After they entered, she locked the doors and set fire to the building, burning them alive. With the best and wisest men out of the way, she planned to destroy the remaining Drevlians. She invited them to a funeral feast so she could mourn over her husband's grave, where her servants waited on them. After the Drevlians were drunk, Olga's soldiers killed over 5,000 of them. She returned to Kiev and prepared an army to attack the survivors. The Drevlians begged for mercy and offered to pay for their freedom with honey and furs. She asked for three pigeons and three sparrows from each house, since she did not want to burden the villagers any further after the siege. They were happy to comply with such a reasonable request. Olga then gave to each soldier in her army a pigeon or a sparrow, and ordered them to attach by thread to each pigeon and sparrow a piece of sulfur bound with small pieces of cloth. When night fell, Olga bade her soldiers release the pigeons and the sparrows. So the birds flew to their nests, the pigeons to the cotes, and the sparrows under the eaves. The dove-cotes, the coops, the porches, and the haymows were set on fire. There was not a house that was not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames, because all the houses caught on fire at once. The people fled from the city, and Olga ordered her soldiers to catch them. Thus she took the city and burned it, and captured the elders of the city. Some of the other captives she killed, while some she gave to others as slaves to her followers. The remnant she left to pay tribute. Prince Mal seems kind of dim and Olga kind of vindictive. welcome to Medieval Russia need I say more.
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Post by the light works on May 10, 2014 12:05:59 GMT
it IS true that a frightened cat will go to its "safe spot". the challenge of course, will be that any cats they can capture will likely be from areas they already control.
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Post by chriso on May 13, 2014 23:58:52 GMT
What, no one has mentioned batbombs yet? During WWII, in a bid to make incindiaries far more effective, the allies surgically attatched 2 pound incindiaries to bats. The plan was to release these bats over enemy cities and targets, then when the bats went to roost in attics and such, the incindiary would kick in, lighting the building on fire. I am not sure if it was ever used in warefare, but it was effective enough that during development they set fire to the barracks when a bat got lose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb
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Post by the light works on May 14, 2014 0:45:43 GMT
What, no one has mentioned batbombs yet? During WWII, in a bid to make incindiaries far more effective, the allies surgically attatched 2 pound incindiaries to bats. The plan was to release these bats over enemy cities and targets, then when the bats went to roost in attics and such, the incindiary would kick in, lighting the building on fire. I am not sure if it was ever used in warefare, but it was effective enough that during development they set fire to the barracks when a bat got lose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bombI think that program petered out shortly after that.
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Post by chriso on May 14, 2014 1:14:44 GMT
*Facepalm* I seriously meant to put that in there.... What, no one has mentioned batbombs yet? During WWII, in a bid to make incindiaries far more effective, the allies surgically attatched 2 pound incindiaries to bats. The plan was to release these bats over enemy cities and targets, then when the bats went to roost in attics and such, the incindiary would kick in, lighting the building on fire. I am not sure if it was ever used in warefare, but it was effective enough that during development they set fire to the barracks when a bat got lose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bombI think that program petered out shortly after that. err... whoops, yea the bomb was never deployed.
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Post by blazerrose on May 14, 2014 5:47:21 GMT
"Rocket cats, burning out on mews on fur alone."
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Post by Lokifan on May 14, 2014 6:04:13 GMT
"Rocket cats, burning out on mews on fur alone." *clapping* That's so bad it's good...
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Post by blazerrose on May 16, 2014 3:46:40 GMT
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on May 19, 2014 14:31:35 GMT
What, no one has mentioned batbombs yet? During WWII, in a bid to make incindiaries far more effective, the allies surgically attatched 2 pound incindiaries to bats. The plan was to release these bats over enemy cities and targets, then when the bats went to roost in attics and such, the incindiary would kick in, lighting the building on fire. I am not sure if it was ever used in warefare, but it was effective enough that during development they set fire to the barracks when a bat got lose. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bombThe bat bombs (no Batman jokes PLEASE!) remind me of another 'animal weapon' used (this time by the Russians) during WWII. Needless to say due to Soviet efficiency it was a complete disaster. Soviet Suicide Dogs of WWII
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Post by silverdragon on May 20, 2014 8:37:53 GMT
I do not believe that the animal lovers of the world who watch the show will be too happy with testing on animals....
But robotic zombie cats?....
GRANT!... wake up... time to party.....
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