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Post by Cybermortis on May 21, 2014 17:17:48 GMT
I got to thinking about this after seeing Antigone once again taking the time, effort and money to do home testing in regards the Plane Ice Cream myth.
I was thinking that we should have 'Awards' for those who go above and beyond the call of duty. I'd love to have these as 'medals' that could be attached to a members sig, but there is no option for me to do that beyond buying 'gifts' from proboards for individual members - which would cost money I simply don't have. So such awards would have to basically be in a thread noting who has what.
First is, naturally, to see what people think of this. The second would be to figure out what the awards should be for and what they should be called - naturally with a MB slant.
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Post by the light works on May 21, 2014 17:25:44 GMT
I got to thinking about this after seeing Antigone once again taking the time, effort and money to do home testing in regards the Plane Ice Cream myth. I was thinking that we should have 'Awards' for those who go above and beyond the call of duty. I'd love to have these as 'medals' that could be attached to a members sig, but there is no option for me to do that beyond buying 'gifts' from proboards for individual members - which would cost money I simply don't have. So such awards would have to basically be in a thread noting who has what. First is, naturally, to see what people think of this. The second would be to figure out what the awards should be for and what they should be called - naturally with a MB slant. well, I think we are honorable enough to all honor unwritten sumptuary laws - which would allow awards to be mentioned in taglines, as well as having an honors board. but yes, there should definitely be an award for doing tests and developing things. and Antigone definitely deserves a top award. but what to call them... I'm blanking at the moment as well as needing to print out a couple invoices and go finish a project. |
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Post by Cybermortis on May 21, 2014 17:33:41 GMT
{Deleted the double post - CM}
I agree that those who have won awards would be entitled to add the (shortened) version to their tagline. The listing (which would be set up so only mods could post/alter it) would simply be a way to confirm that an individual has won that award - a wall of honour if you will.
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Post by Cybermortis on May 21, 2014 21:55:34 GMT
Maybe something like;
Order of the Bleeding Dummy (OBD)
The Bronze Buster (BB)
Distinguished Service Mythbustering (DSM)
(All of which could come with 'Giant Nuts'* if awarded two or more times - eg OBN-GN)
Medal of Savagery (MS - Intended for those who posted an idea on TC which made it onto the show, but where it can't be conclusively proven that the idea was taken from TC in part or in whole)
The Hyneman Medal of Honour (HMH - Only given for those who get a name check on the show, and/or in cases when it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that an idea posted on TC was used on the show. The latter would go with the former in most cases. This would be the most difficult award to win.)
(The latter two would have 'Giant Balls'* if awarded more than once - eg MS-GB)
(*Both being a reference to the famous 'giant nuts' line and the resulting 'Jamie keeps his balls in his desk' discussion at Com-Con a while back. I don't think we should ever let Grant forget that little gaff...)
If anyone has better ideas I'm open to them. We'd also need to work out fair criteria for being awarded all of these, as they should not be something that should be easy to pick up - so for example they would not depend on post count but content and actions.
Working out if someone should be given an award would be a simple matter of someone being put forward by at least two other members, then the case in question being discussed by the moderators to decide if it fits the set criteria. (Naturally members could not nominate themselves, nor could staff members who's names have been put forward be involved in the discussion)
That is my thinking as to how things should be worked out.
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Post by OziRiS on May 22, 2014 0:13:54 GMT
Any plans to have awards that pertain less to the show and more to the community that is TC?
I'm thinking specifically of members who help other members with stuff, either helping with small things on a regular basis or occasionally with something that's very important to the member(s) needing the help, be that technical or personal in nature. Could be something like posting the solution to a technical problem, giving truly helpful advice or insightful/inspiring comments on personal matters or just someone who consistently puts a smile on people's faces with their posts (I'm sure both Lex and I could put a couple of names into that last hat).
Members who in some way contribute significantly to the overall positive experience of being part of TC.
Just tossing it out there as a suggestion...
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Post by the light works on May 22, 2014 1:03:36 GMT
both suggestions sound good.
perhaps for citadel awards:
CS: for confirmed cases of putting coffee on screens
Mentioned in Dispatches: for helpful advice (technical or otherwise) (MiD)
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Post by silverdragon on May 22, 2014 10:25:00 GMT
I like the idea.
I especially like the idea of getting Board related medals for helping the board and members...
And I thing distinguished service gong (DSG) should be the first medals to be given out, to every single member of the Admin, all of them, for being Admin in the first place, for creation of the board, and keeping it running.
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Post by OziRiS on May 22, 2014 10:36:10 GMT
I like the idea. I especially like the idea of getting Board related medals for helping the board and members... And I thing distinguished service gong (DSG) should be the first medals to be given out, to every single member of the Admin, all of them, for being Admin in the first place, for creation of the board, and keeping it running. With all those stars they all have, where are they gonna put it?  |
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Post by silverdragon on May 22, 2014 10:55:30 GMT
I could suggest something, but I would have my awards removed if I did...
Oh...
I dont have any awards?.....
Well, in that case............
[ behave....]
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Post by Cybermortis on May 22, 2014 11:14:05 GMT
Citadel Awards are a good idea, maybe;
Mentioned in Discussions (MiD - For consistently providing helpful and accurate advice in threads. This would, therefore, apply to threads board-wide rather than just for the Oracle and Hobbies sections although it is mainly aimed at the latter two)
Screen Wipe Award (SWA - For consistently causing members to laugh out loud and/or generally keeping good humour flowing)
Mythbusters Awards;
Order of the Bleeding Dummy (OBD - For providing potentially useful comments on show ideas on a regular basis, or for providing a useful comment/information on a topic that changes how that topic would be viewed and hence how it might or might not be tested - Sometimes realising that something couldn't realistically be tested can be just as important as figuring out if something can be tested)
The Bronze Buster (BB - For providing extremely valuable information in a thread, where such information would otherwise be difficult to find)
Distinguished Service Mythbustering (DSM - For consistently providing valid material that could be tested on the show, or going above and beyond the call of mythbusting duty in helping develop ideas. This would not automatically relate to individuals posting ideas, but include developing ideas posted by others into something practical.)
Medal of Savagery (MS - Intended for those who posted an idea on TC which made it onto the show, but where it can't be conclusively proven that the idea was taken from TC in part or in whole)
The Hyneman Medal of Honour (HMH - Only given for those who get a name check on the show, and/or in cases when it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that an idea posted on TC was used on the show. The latter would go with the former in most cases. This would be the most difficult award to win.)
{The specific criteria needs some work}
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Post by silverdragon on May 22, 2014 11:21:30 GMT
I wanna be the first to get that....
Am I silly enough?.....
Can I try?...
[heards a flock of Gouda cheese through the thread for no reason at all.... its just Gouda for-a the-a discission-a.... eh?....]
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Post by craighudson on May 22, 2014 11:46:11 GMT
If you know how Gouda is really pronounced, it doesn't work.
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Post by OziRiS on May 22, 2014 11:49:04 GMT
I'm also thinking that to make the awards actually be useful for something (i.e. allowing members to figure out who to aks if you have a problem) we could divide the "being helpful to others" awards into a technical help category and a personal help category.
For example, we have people here that are great with computers and often offer up their knowledge to help others, just as people know things about cars, water heaters, carpentry and all sorts of other stuff that they're more than willing to share. On the other side of that, we have people who truly care about other members' personal problems and often lend an ear and offer up useful advice on how to handle different situations.
Both types of help deserve recognition for being something that makes it a positive experience to be part of this forum, but they're kind of far apart in their nature, so maybe we divide them into two different categories of award?
How about:
The Imahara Helpful Geek Award (IHGA - Intended for those who often give helpful advice to other members on technical matters)
The Golden Shoulder (TGS - Intended for members who truly care about others and often try to help them with personal matters, perhaps even going so far as to take the time to discuss a problem in depth via PM if needed)
For these 'labels' to be truly helpful, members have to be made aware that they've been nominated and approved for the award, so they have the option of turning it down if they don't want people to specifically come to them with their problems. Offering up good advice from time to time isn't neccesarily the same as saying "Come one, come all! My door is always open!", which is pretty much what the award will signal to others. For me personally, my door is always open for personal stuff and I know for a fact that SD will gladly answer technical questions via PM, but there may be others who are happy to offer advice in a thread, but don't want long talks over PM. They should have the option to turn it down.
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Post by Cybermortis on May 22, 2014 15:08:11 GMT
Maybe;
The Grant Geek Award - for giving helpful technical advice and information outside the Show Ideas Boards.
The Kind Kari Award - for those who have aided and assisted others on a more personal level.
***
I'd like to avoid having too many awards, so maybe it would be best to stick to those two as 'TC' awards, with BB, DSM*, MoS and the HMH as 'Mythbusters' ones - as in they relate more to the show than to the board in general. Mentioned in Discussions would fill the grey area between TC and MB awards.
(*Maybe rename this as the Belleci Service Medal - BSM. That way we have all of the cast, including Buster, mentioned)
That would give a total of seven awards, which is I think more than enough. My thinking is that being given any of the awards should not be easy, so being given one has a greater meaning.
That would, in order, give us;
Mentioned in Discussions
Grant Geek
Kind Kari
Bronze Buster
Belleci Service Medal
Medal of Savagery
Hyneman Medal of Honour
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Post by the light works on May 22, 2014 15:27:38 GMT
Maybe; The Grant Geek Award - for giving helpful technical advice and information outside the Show Ideas Boards. The Kind Kari Award - for those who have aided and assisted others on a more personal level. *** I'd like to avoid having too many awards, so maybe it would be best to stick to those two as 'TC' awards, with BB, DSM*, MoS and the HMH as 'Mythbusters' ones - as in they relate more to the show than to the board in general. Mentioned in Discussions would fill the grey area between TC and MB awards. (*Maybe rename this as the Belleci Service Medal - BSM. That way we have all of the cast, including Buster, mentioned) That would give a total of seven awards, which is I think more than enough. My thinking is that being given any of the awards should not be easy, so being given one has a greater meaning. That would, in order, give us; Mentioned in Discussions Grant Geek Kind Kari Bronze Buster Belleci Service Medal Medal of Savagery Hyneman Medal of Honour sounds like a reasonable spectrum of award. |
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Post by blazerrose on May 23, 2014 3:20:28 GMT
I love this idea! Fun and community minded. As for medal suggestions, I got nuthin'. Y'all are much more creative than I.
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Post by OziRiS on May 23, 2014 6:48:17 GMT
I think we've got the number of awards and the names down by now. Two questions remain:
1. Do we have the right criteria yet?
2. What's the procedure for nominations?
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Post by Cybermortis on May 23, 2014 11:49:56 GMT
I think we've got the number of awards and the names down by now. Two questions remain: 1. Do we have the right criteria yet? 2. What's the procedure for nominations? 1; Apart from the two highest awards not quite. The top two are fairly easy, since they require getting an idea on the air; The Savage Award when it can't be proven that the idea came from here, let alone from an individual poster. But where there is justifiable reason to suspect that this was if not the origin then certainly the thread posted on TC contributed to what made it on air. Using myself as an example. I would have 'won' this for Poo Hits the Fan, since the testing procedures from start to finish was exactly as outlined in the thread on MBFC. I would not have won this for Mini Myth Mayhem since, while I did come up with the name of the episode, nothing that was tested had any resemblance to what was aired in content or structure. In neither case was I or MBFC given a name check. The Hyneman award is for those who not only get ideas on the show, but are credited as being the 'source' of those ideas - that is given a name check in relation to that myth. Since MB have only done this half a dozen times in their entire run this would, naturally, be a VERY difficult award to get. To the best of my knowledge no one on TC would have won this. While an idea posted on here by rmc did make it on the show, that idea was taken from Discovery (he noted the screen name of the person who'd posted it, and their name was the one read out.) This would not make rmc eligible for a 'Hyneman', but maybe a MiD if only for not trying to pass said idea off as his own. The others are somewhat vague at this point, the MiD is for when someone deserves recognition but hasn't quite matched criteria for something else. The Kari and Grant awards are for helping members around the board with personal and more technical issues respectively. The other three are somewhat more vague right now and need clearer and 'stricter' criteria (as do the Grant and Kari awards). As I've said above, I don't want the awards to be easy to 'win'. Yes, it is a bit of fun but they are also meant as a more serious way of recognising input from individual members. In order for them to do the latter they have to be hard to get, the impact and 'worth' of any awards would be diluted if everyone can get one fairly easily or if everyone ends up with letters in their sig. As for nominations. I think that the simplest way would be for members to nominate individuals in the general forum, stating what that individual should win an award for - links to a thread or threads should be provided. In the case of nominations that are based on PM exchanges this should be noted, as the mods can then ask for copies of the PM exchange via PM (this is probably especially important for more personal issues where there may be some information one or both parties don't want posted on a public message board.) Nominations would need to be seconded, and possibly thirded, (As said don't want to make it too easy) by other members within a reasonable period of time - say a month from the date of the original nomination. (This would give all members time to have seen the nomination and responded to it). Once a nomination has become official the mods would discuss the matter, coming to a decision as to if an award is justified and if so which award should be given. This might take a while, after all the mods are busy people, but then it takes a while to get an award in the real world too. (Ironically the hardest two to win would be the easiest and shortest to get). If it is a member of staff who is nominated the other three members will discuss things with each other. |
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Post by Lex Of Sydney Australia on May 23, 2014 13:29:18 GMT
Any plans to have awards that pertain less to the show and more to the community that is TC? I'm thinking specifically of members who help other members with stuff, either helping with small things on a regular basis or occasionally with something that's very important to the member(s) needing the help, be that technical or personal in nature. Could be something like posting the solution to a technical problem, giving truly helpful advice or insightful/inspiring comments on personal matters or just someone who consistently puts a smile on people's faces with their posts (I'm sure both Lex and I could put a couple of names into that last hat). Members who in some way contribute significantly to the overall positive experience of being part of TC. Just tossing it out there as a suggestion... Would the Kind Karri Award cover this or no? Personally I don't think it should, but I do think it needs it's own award category. PLESAE don't ask me to come up with a name for it though cause my brain is fried!  Tax time loometh at the end of next month & we have a mountain of paper work to sort out before the end of next month. |
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Post by Cybermortis on May 23, 2014 14:02:39 GMT
It would depend on what kind of contribution the member in question usually makes. I think the Kari award should include contributing to an overall 'positive' experience. As noted above some people may be wary of accepting such an award if they are concerned that people may take that as a sign they can be talked to about personal issues every five minutes. So expanding the Kari to cover that would make it unclear if someone was given it for helping with personal issues or just for board-wide experience.
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Tax time loometh at the end of next month & we have a mountain of paper work to sort out before the end of next month.