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Post by silverdragon on Jul 27, 2014 10:16:09 GMT
When I ran the Pub, ash trays were always emptied into a metal can with a lid.
To start, this stopped ash dust floating about the place, but also, if anything was still alight, it was a simple job to put the thing in the service sink and shower it with water.
I think I had about half a dozen fires... which is one reason it was always kept next to the service sink at the and of the bar in sight.
One thing that always annoyed me were the people who when they had finished a bag or crisps would lay the bag over the top of an ash tray....
For starters, it stops anyone else using the ash tray.
Secondly, Crisp bags are highly flammable.
If you cant be as--d walking to the trash can, put your empty snack bags UNDER the ash tray?....
Is that too hard?....
I have always had a health fear for Fires.
I once trialled for the job of Fireman... before I applied for RAF.
I failed the eyesight test....
I have long sight, I need glasses for close work, apparently thats not good for fire-fighters....
To be honest, If I havnt seen something already when it gets that close, I am in a whole heap of do-do anyway, and I wont be needing Glasses?....
But never mind, after that, I got to be a fly-boy.
They apparently appreciated my ability to read warning signs from a distance some people were saying "What sign?..."
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 29, 2014 8:13:19 GMT
<SNIP> One thing that always annoyed me were the people who when they had finished a bag or crisps would lay the bag over the top of an ash tray.... For starters, it stops anyone else using the ash tray. Secondly, Crisp bags are highly flammable. If you cant be as--d walking to the trash can, put your empty snack bags UNDER the ash tray?.... Is that too hard?.... I've always found it extremely annoying that many non-smokers are so busy telling smokers that they "have no respect for their surroundings" and then turn around and throw their trash in the ash tray. And it's not just the ones you put on the table inside. No, it's the big ones outside that are beginning to pop up in obscure corners because smokers are now banned from pretty much everywhere. Here's my problem with that: You want smokers and their smoke as far away from you as possible. Fair enough. But why the *BLEEP* would you then throw all sorts of flammable *BLEEP* into their *BLEEPING* ash trays, starting fires that create even more *BLEEPING* smoke and spreads it over a much larger area?! If you don't like to be around smoke, why the *BLEEP* are you even in the same *BLEEPING* obscure, out-of-the-way area that the smokers have been exiled to because of YOUR *BLEEPING* sensitivities in the first place?! Either you stop complaining about the smoke, or you go away and stay there! Either way, the ash tray is NOT your personal trash can! I've seen people walk right past a trash can and litterally STUFF their trash into one of these:  And please, before the barrage starts, keep in mind that I'm not attacking all non-smokers. Just the BLEEPS who complain about smokers and then, not only seek them out when they've been exiled from more or less everywhere but the most secluded corner that can be found, but then proceed to create a fire hazard with even more smoke to follow and think that's perfectly acceptable. And this is an opinion I would have even if I wasn't a smoker. I don't like to drink a lot of alcohol and don't like being around drunk people, so I stay away from them. I don't walk into bars, start acting like a fool and throw trash into their beer kegs and glasses. That would just make me an obnoxious idiot. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 29, 2014 8:24:41 GMT
"I will stop you smoking"
I had someone announce that to me once.
She is probably still annoyed that I just didnt take any notice... when she started to get annoying with the "Did you hear what I said" for the 20th dozen time, I just said "...do you think you are that important to anyone?..."
Shrugged my shoulders and continued to ignore her.
There are some people who's life is so shallow they look for an argument....
Anti-Smokers think they have an easy target.
I recently stopped smoking.... last year...
I dreaded the fact I may turn into a born-again- anti-smokeist pain in the backside....
It just doesnt bother me?...
If someone smokes, thats their business.
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 29, 2014 11:20:58 GMT
"I will stop you smoking" I had someone announce that to me once. She is probably still annoyed that I just didnt take any notice... when she started to get annoying with the "Did you hear what I said" for the 20th dozen time, I just said "...do you think you are that important to anyone?..." Shrugged my shoulders and continued to ignore her. There are some people who's life is so shallow they look for an argument.... Anti-Smokers think they have an easy target. I recently stopped smoking.... last year... I dreaded the fact I may turn into a born-again- anti-smokeist pain in the backside.... It just doesnt bother me?... If someone smokes, thats their business. Most smokers have become more considerate than ever before (there are still some who are obnoxious a-holes and there probably always will be), so if you don't want to have their smoke in your face, most of the time you won't have to. Many people don't even smoke inside their own homes anymore, which means that the most pedantic and, dare I say it, extremist non-smokers have to seek them out to b**ch and moan these days. And they will. Gladly! And you know why? It's not because they hate tobacco smoke or smokers. It's because they think they have a legitimate reason to feel morally superior to a certain group of people. These are the types of people who, if parenthood had been frowned upon by society at large, would have stood outside kindergartens or schools at the end of the day, lecturing parents on why they were deplorable for having children. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 29, 2014 14:45:07 GMT
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Post by the light works on Jul 29, 2014 15:25:25 GMT
getting back to topic, there is still a significant population in America for whom, once they are done with something it simply ceases to exist in their world - and this includes cigarette stubs, beverage containers, and candy wrappers. the detritus simply falls to the ground unnoticed wherever they happen to be, and they are functionally oblivious to its continued existence.
I understand why old smokers continue smoking - it is a chemical addiction that most of them wish they did not have; but have not managed to overcome. its the young ones that baffle and mystify me. why would one choose to adopt such an expensive and self destructive hobby?
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Post by OziRiS on Jul 29, 2014 20:24:56 GMT
At least as far as my own adoption of said hobby, I can explain that last part.
When I started, I was a pretty high strung teen. I had a really crappy family (I know... All teens say that, but for me it was true) and they were constantly causing me stress. Drunken dad, mentally ill mother, all-knowing and all-meddling aunt and very judgemental, overly christian grandparents and great grandparents. I was a mess by age 15 when somebody offered me a smoke at a party. I said no to begin with, but then changed my mind and I was instantly hooked. It calmed me down right away. At that particular time in my life, I hadn't slept more than 4 hours straight in one night for over 3 years, I was so stressed. That night I slept like a baby for 12 hours straight. So I got a pack the next day and it took off from there.
Keep in mind that at this point in my life, I'd been drinking my brain out almost every weekend for 2 years (yes, I started at age 13 - kind of backs up my point about the crappy family, right?) and that hadn't helped me sleep. It had just helped me forget my troubles while I was drunk. I'd always kept away from drugs, but I was seriously beginning to think about trying something harder. In fact, I was prepared to try anything that would get me to sleep. I'd say I got off easy with a nicotine addiction, considering what I could have gotten myself into.
Tried quitting once when I was 21, but my heart wasn't in it. My cousin had entered a contest where he was supposed to help a smoker quit for 4 weeks, giving both of us a shot at winning $1,000 each. Thought I could do it, but after a week I was right back to where I left off at age 15. I was at work for 14 hours a day, went home, got something to eat, slept 2-4 hours and then went back to work. I was so high strung and stressed that I was getting on everyone's nerves, because instead of drowning myself in alcohol (I'd quit completely 2 years earlier) I was now working off the stress, setting a pace that no one else could keep up with, getting on their backs about not being fast enough and doing so with a fierce temper. I wasn't the proverbial "ticking time bomb", I was a velcro wall with little vials of nitroglycerine stuck to it and each and every one of them was hanging on by a thread, ready to fall to the ground at the slightest of wrong moves or comments!
2 weeks in and all my co-workers got together, sponsored two cartons of smokes for me and almost begged me to start smoking again, so I could become normal and they'd actually start liking me again. Even my boss, who was initially thrilled about my new found energy was in on it. You see, when I get that high strung, I notice EVERYTHING, including all of his little missteps and he couldn't defend those because, trivial as they might have been, they were ligitimate missteps, so he had no arguments against my remarks. He was as sick of me as everyone else at that point. I started up again, was told to take the next day off, went home and slept for 16 hours straight. Everything was back to normal two days later.
After that I've come to the realization that smoking actually makes me a better version of me. Furthermore, I enjoy smoking, so I've made the deal with myself that the day I wake up in the morning and my first smoke of the day isn't even remotely enjoyable, but just something I do out of pure habit, I'm quitting.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 29, 2014 22:29:27 GMT
Getting back to the OP.
The question that I suspect that would be asked by MB if they were to look at this is 'how to test?'. This isn't as simple as just throwing a ciggy into a pile of leaves and waiting, because clearly it can take hours before anything happens - assuming anything does. This doesn't exactly make for good TV or a tempting prospect for viable testing.
They need to have an idea as to the ideal conditions needed, and a reasonable time frame in which to expect a result; read that as 'an hour or two'.
The base idea is a fairly good one, its the nature of the testing and the rather tame results for the time needed that are currently problems.
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Post by the light works on Jul 30, 2014 0:11:38 GMT
Getting back to the OP. The question that I suspect that would be asked by MB if they were to look at this is 'how to test?'. This isn't as simple as just throwing a ciggy into a pile of leaves and waiting, because clearly it can take hours before anything happens - assuming anything does. This doesn't exactly make for good TV or a tempting prospect for viable testing. They need to have an idea as to the ideal conditions needed, and a reasonable time frame in which to expect a result; read that as 'an hour or two'. The base idea is a fairly good one, its the nature of the testing and the rather tame results for the time needed that are currently problems. and days before anything noticeable happens. |
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Post by the light works on Aug 10, 2014 15:16:31 GMT
Had kind of a mystery fire last night - 100 feet off the roadway, down a cliff, with no easy access. our best explanation is windborne burning debris of some sort. access was difficult enough that I doubt someone was hanging out there to smoke cigarettes.
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Post by the light works on Aug 26, 2014 16:30:23 GMT
An interesting trend I noticed while on the road was the connection between car fires and grass fires. most of the evidence I saw of grass fires along the freeway originated from evidence of car fires.
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Post by c64 on Aug 26, 2014 19:00:05 GMT
<SNIP> One thing that always annoyed me were the people who when they had finished a bag or crisps would lay the bag over the top of an ash tray.... For starters, it stops anyone else using the ash tray. Secondly, Crisp bags are highly flammable. Sometimes, the "cradle" of the trash can is flammable, too:  |
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