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Post by silverdragon on Jun 30, 2014 21:39:23 GMT
I dont know if this has been asked before, but we have a saying around these parts, as useless as a chocolate tea pot.....
Well, Chocolate melts at 30 to 32degC, higher fat content will be lower melting point. Tea is best served at around 90degC, dependant on who you are and preference, that may vary. (My Missus prefers it over 95degC..?..) So by physics alone, Chocolate Tea Pot has melted already?...
Unless, of course, anyone knows better.
My Missus has asbestos tonsils I think?....
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Post by Cybermortis on Jun 30, 2014 22:01:25 GMT
This was posted on the old MBFC a few years back, as 'chocolate kettle' and some basic research done.
Short answer is that it might be possible with some types of chocolate, if your teapot had thick enough walls and you don't mind your tea tasting heavily of chocolate. Off the top of my head I don't think there is any commercially available type of chocolate with a high enough melting point to avoid melting at least partly, but in theory you should be able to make chocolate that has a higher melting point than 100C.
Of course you could always cheat and coat the chocolate with plastic...
Maybe a couple more ideas for chocolate items that are said to be (or implied to be) useless? Chocolate fire guard springs to mind.
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Post by silverdragon on Jun 30, 2014 22:21:07 GMT
You got to the fire guard before me.
We also have as useless as a chocolate bunny on guard duty..... Well, thats an old one, someone got a chocolate Easter bunny one time and a dolls replica RAF uniform, made an MP hat and arm band, and left it on the front gate at one airfield I was at .... I am not sure where the original came from, but out lot made that one slightly famous?...
Chocolate sun hat... I heard that one once....
There must be more.
(I dont remember the old board thread, must have been before I joined?...)
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Post by the light works on Jun 30, 2014 23:06:38 GMT
I thought that thread was HERE. and I remember discussion of chocolate kettle and chocolate fire guard.
over here, the expressions of uselessness are a bit more colorful (and sometimes mondegreened to inapplicability) for example, the classic expression "as useless as (mammary glands) on a boar," has mutated to "...on a whore"
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Post by the light works on Jun 30, 2014 23:10:56 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 1, 2014 7:50:11 GMT
We us that as useful as mammary glands on a goldfish....
We need that like a goldfish needs a motorbike.
But you cant test that one can you?.... or can you?....
And yes, I slightly remember the Chocolate thread and interpretations of Mould. But I didnt remember the chocolate tea pot being mentioned....
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Post by Cybermortis on Jul 1, 2014 12:07:18 GMT
They tested riding a bike underwater, which was based on the expression 'As much use as a bicycle to a fish'.
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Post by the light works on Jul 1, 2014 14:24:15 GMT
They tested riding a bike underwater, which was based on the expression 'As much use as a bicycle to a fish'. the onscreen reference was from a moderately forgettable Robin Williams movie called "RV" in which he rides a bicycle out of a lake, from underwater.
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Post by ironhold on Jul 1, 2014 14:44:49 GMT
They tested riding a bike underwater, which was based on the expression 'As much use as a bicycle to a fish'. IIRC, the specific quote was "A woman needs a man like a goldfish needs a bicycle". It's attributed to Gloria Steinem, a rather controversial "feminist" who I understand had a history of shooting her mouth off. When it was announced that she was finally getting married, a political cartoonist responded with a strip depicting a goldfish trying to ride a bike. ** As far as the chocolate tea pot goes - I understand that there are certain types of edible wax, such as what the eyes on Peeps (C) marshmallow treats are made out of. Could such wax be able to withstand the heat of a proper pot of tea?
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Post by the light works on Jul 1, 2014 15:18:34 GMT
They tested riding a bike underwater, which was based on the expression 'As much use as a bicycle to a fish'. IIRC, the specific quote was "A woman needs a man like a goldfish needs a bicycle". It's attributed to Gloria Steinem, a rather controversial "feminist" who I understand had a history of shooting her mouth off. When it was announced that she was finally getting married, a political cartoonist responded with a strip depicting a goldfish trying to ride a bike. ** As far as the chocolate tea pot goes - I understand that there are certain types of edible wax, such as what the eyes on Peeps (C) marshmallow treats are made out of. Could such wax be able to withstand the heat of a proper pot of tea? such as easter candy?
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Post by mrfatso on Jul 1, 2014 16:00:25 GMT
They tested riding a bike underwater, which was based on the expression 'As much use as a bicycle to a fish'. IIRC, the specific quote was "A woman needs a man like a goldfish needs a bicycle". It's attributed to Gloria Steinem, a rather controversial "feminist" who I understand had a history of shooting her mouth off. When it was announced that she was finally getting married, a political cartoonist responded with a strip depicting a goldfish trying to ride a bike. ** As far as the chocolate tea pot goes - I understand that there are certain types of edible wax, such as what the eyes on Peeps (C) marshmallow treats are made out of. Could such wax be able to withstand the heat of a proper pot of tea? The phrase goes farther back than Gloria Steinem, it was originally attributed in its feminist form to an Australian Irina Dunn by Gloria Herself, according to Phrasefinder. www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/414150.htmlEven then she was paraphrasing an older quite by someone else about "Man needs God like fish needs a bicycle.'".
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Post by silverdragon on Jul 2, 2014 8:08:40 GMT
Fish dont have legs, thats why its a Motorbike.
In fact, its a Motor-Pike, with side-Carp.
I know, I just invited a whole load of fish related jokes about now, I apologise, I know you cant help it, or is that cant whelk it.... oh eck, even I started now...
A needs B like C needs D quotes have been with us since the Greeks invented Rome.... or was it the Italians?... Bicycle has been in there since the bike was invented, and like a Cow needs a bike has also been used.
Woman needs man like fish needs bike...
Mark twain was once asked what Mankind would be like without Woman, his reply is legendary, "Scarce, sir, mighty scarce. ... " I think that applies to any Woman that makes the quote woman does not need man. Like it or lump it, Humankind needs both sides to progress at some point?....
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 9, 2014 12:19:39 GMT
This was posted on the old MBFC a few years back, as 'chocolate kettle' and some basic research done. Short answer is that it might be possible with some types of chocolate, if your teapot had thick enough walls and you don't mind your tea tasting heavily of chocolate. Off the top of my head I don't think there is any commercially available type of chocolate with a high enough melting point to avoid melting at least partly, but in theory you should be able to make chocolate that has a higher melting point than 100C. Of course you could always cheat and coat the chocolate with plastic... Maybe a couple more ideas for chocolate items that are said to be (or implied to be) useless? Chocolate fire guard springs to mind. Apparently Nestle did make a chocolate teapot for the BBC show The One Show. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/video-at-last-a-use-for-a-chocolate-teapot-1-6829116Though they only left the tea to brew for 2 minutes, and it did taste a bit of chocolate, so melting must have begun.
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 9, 2014 12:30:03 GMT
I have been somewhere to day, and my mind melted.... I cant say where, but it was a factory in Birmingham England, and the pictures below sort of give it away. I saw a teapot in the shape of a chunk of chocolate. I had no idea.... If you google Chocolate Tea Pot and change to image tab, there's THOUSANDS of different ones?... Here is something to go with it. Its a slight mind melt because I did not know what I had missed?............
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 9, 2014 12:54:26 GMT
Is not that a Teapot made to look like a block of chocolate, made from ceramics, rather than a chocolate teapot?
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Sept 9, 2014 13:02:01 GMT
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 9, 2014 13:57:18 GMT
I do not suppose the process is any more complex than making a normal tea pot, shaping clay and firing it, but those would have multiple uses, this pot was already showing signs of chocolate in the tea after only two minutes, which means a) it would have a limited number of uses as the insides must have been melting b) Two minutes is not long enough for brewing what most British people would consider a good cup of tea, this brew would be very weak. If you left the tea to brew for longer say 4 minutes the pot may have shown more signs of wear.
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Post by Cybermortis on Sept 9, 2014 21:31:05 GMT
Is not that a Teapot made to look like a block of chocolate, made from ceramics, rather than a chocolate teapot? Yes. I remember those...In fact I *think* I may have known someone who owned the mugs. As I recall they were used in a number of adverts for drinking chocolate in the UK.
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 10, 2014 5:50:31 GMT
I do not expect that the ones pictured are real chocolate, although, I do suspect if you ask in the right places, someone will mould chocolate that way for you.
(Heck, given enough time, I suspect a two-piece mould may be makable by the talents between me and my Wife and a replica made in actual chocolate....)
Would I make Tea in Chocolate?.. not unless I wanted melted chocolate in my tea... which I dont....
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Post by the light works on Sept 10, 2014 6:12:21 GMT
I do not expect that the ones pictured are real chocolate, although, I do suspect if you ask in the right places, someone will mould chocolate that way for you. (Heck, given enough time, I suspect a two-piece mould may be makable by the talents between me and my Wife and a replica made in actual chocolate....) Would I make Tea in Chocolate?.. not unless I wanted melted chocolate in my tea... which I dont.... It is rather good, if you replace the tea with ice cream.
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