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Post by the light works on Sept 18, 2014 13:33:46 GMT
"Dont inconvenience me" People that selfish are doing it wrong. Yes they are cross threading themselves with stupid, but mostly, selfish doing it wrong. What are they doing wrong?... Life. I would narrow it down to basic comprehension. similar to a time we had a traffic crash that used up both lanes of a two lane bridge. "but I have to go to church" best, though, was when I was working early warning on a crash where we decided to simply close the road so both wreckers could hook up at once. "I'm a professional flagger, I can help you get traffic moving smoothly." accident scenes work different than road construction. |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 19, 2014 8:05:30 GMT
Bridge Strike, a Wagon has hit a Railway bridge in Stockport near Manchester again.
The road is closed.
Bus routes are diverted.
They MUST get an engineer to inspect all railway bridges after a strike by truck, just to make sure its safe...
Trains are suspended.
The road is, of course, shut.
(It was shut for a week....)
I am there recovering the Wagon, with the tow truck driver.
The Truck driver was taken to hospital.
More than one person seeing the "Road Closed" sign, and the tow truck pulling the truck off the bridge, MUST stop us working to ask how long it will take.
We do not know, but its going to take longer if we stand and chat.
I am still hooking up and inspecting the wagon, when the Tow truck driver sees someone moving the barriers.....
"WTF are you up to?..."
The twit NEEDS to get down the road, under the bridge.
He will not take no as an answer.
He will not go around.
Its HIS risk.
We are not there to prevent stupidity.... but the police offices on duty is....
The last we heard was him telling the officer to order us to hurry the (****) up so he can get on with his day....
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Post by the light works on Sept 19, 2014 14:44:43 GMT
Bridge Strike, a Wagon has hit a Railway bridge in Stockport near Manchester again. The road is closed. Bus routes are diverted. They MUST get an engineer to inspect all railway bridges after a strike by truck, just to make sure its safe... Trains are suspended. The road is, of course, shut. (It was shut for a week....) I am there recovering the Wagon, with the tow truck driver. The Truck driver was taken to hospital. More than one person seeing the "Road Closed" sign, and the tow truck pulling the truck off the bridge, MUST stop us working to ask how long it will take. We do not know, but its going to take longer if we stand and chat. I am still hooking up and inspecting the wagon, when the Tow truck driver sees someone moving the barriers..... "WTF are you up to?..." The twit NEEDS to get down the road, under the bridge. He will not take no as an answer. He will not go around. Its HIS risk. We are not there to prevent stupidity.... but the police offices on duty is.... The last we heard was him telling the officer to order us to hurry the (****) up so he can get on with his day.... while I am sympathetic to that, I am also sympathetic to the opposite direction. some years back, we were traveling south to visit a friend, when we ran into snow. oh, eek, scary, you say, but we were driving a four wheel drive, and had properly fitted tire chains handy. we turn on the radio, to pass the time and get road information - and the official bulletin clearly says that four wheel drives, AND vehicles with snow tires tires, AND vehicles CARRYING tire chains are being allowed to pass. since we have two out of three, we figure there will be no problem, and once we get to the head of the line, we will be allowed to proceed. so, three hours later, (which we presume is occupied by the aforementioned idiots who think they ought to have an exception made for them when they have none of the three criteria listed) we get to the head of the line and get told they have decided the road is impassible, and we will have to turn around and drive back on the UNPLOWED road back to try to find a motel room for the night. so after spending the night sleeping in the truck - because SURPRISE, all the people they turned back for not having the three criteria have already booked them all - we go back to the line to find that the road has still not opened because it is still too dangerous to drive on. so we queue up again and wait. and wait. and wait. the sun is melting the snow off the driveways. and wait. and fetch lunch from the very happy proprietor of the nearby convenience store. and wait. the sun is melting the snow off the grass. and wait. and wait. and they finally declare that (under the pressure of an impending peasant revolt) that they will run the plows through one more time and release us to go through at our own great peril - and if we should go spinning out of control and die in a fireball it is our own fault. at the summit of the pass, it was 50 degrees (F), and the only snow to be seen was a tiny trail where the snowplow had pushed the snow off the road the previous night. |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 20, 2014 8:48:00 GMT
[Edit... "Has" hit, should have red "HAD" hit... this was some time ago, this wasnt a recent event, my apologies tyo anyone who thought otherwise?..]Bridge Strike, a Wagon has hit a Railway bridge in Stockport near Manchester again. The road is closed. Bus routes are diverted.
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 20, 2014 8:52:28 GMT
Onwards and upwards...
On bridge strikes is reopened as soon as they can be sure that no mix of traffic under or train over will drop aforesaid train on the head of traffic under.
Its also a case of will that bridge survive another bridge strike.
If there is any doubt that a traffic hit of say medium to full 40 ton impact at reasonable speed may collapse anything, the bridge must be reinforced.
Roads closed to weather may be a case of beware your own stupidity, but a dangerous Rail bridge is bean counting, how much will the victim sue if we drop a bridge on their head.
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 20, 2014 16:01:25 GMT
Here here, reminds me of a time that outside a pub near me on a pedestrian crossing an old chap was knocked over by a car. People came outside to help, and as we waited for the Police and Ambulance to arrive people stood in the road trying to direct traffic around him. Some people were more worried about the fact they has to make a slight detour than the fact there was someone injured in the road. In the end someone got their Transit van and parked in in such a way to shield him until they did arrive.
Cannot believe people who,are like that.
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Post by the light works on Sept 20, 2014 20:00:14 GMT
Here here, reminds me of a time that outside a pub near me on a pedestrian crossing an old chap was knocked over by a car. People came outside to help, and as we waited for the Police and Ambulance to arrive people stood in the road trying to direct traffic around him. Some people were more worried about the fact they has to make a slight detour than the fact there was someone injured in the road. In the end someone got their Transit van and parked in in such a way to shield him until they did arrive. Cannot believe people who,are like that. we invariably have a combination of that and "white hats" (chiefs) who decide that the best thing to do is restrict peoples' options beyond what is necessary - usually by disallowing left turns - which means we have people stopping, and not moving until we explain how to get to where they want to go - which usually takes longer than allowing the left turn would take. |
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 21, 2014 6:49:25 GMT
Sort of similar experience, had a trailer throw a tyre one time, parked it at the side of the road, hazards on, and set about changing the wheel.
Punctured by some shard of bottle that had left some impressive scars in the wheel arch as well?....
Was under the wagon when I hear a blare of Car horn.....
Of course I retire to a safe distance, as in out from under there like a scalded rat out a drain pipe, to see a vehicle on behind my wagon, getting furious.....
"Get it moved" or something like that being shouted at me as they saw me....
There was enough room to get a bus through sideways, as the local saying goes.
They seriously were going to stay there until I moved it?...
I check, no, I am not blocking anyone's drive, no turning, they cant be serious?...
So I ignore them and get back to fixing the wheel.
More horn blaring.
Remembering an old joke, I go to their passenger side window, which was duly rolled down, and I say to the driver "Tell you what, you go fix the wagon and I will stay here and honk your horn then?.. any twit can do that?....
They had by now got a line of half a dozen cars behind them, curious as hell as to why they cant just go round??...>>>>^^^^^^>>>>
As two or three in the line decide to just go past this "Incident", I leave the lady to her musings.
She was furious, shouting insults.
I just love a spot of irony in the morning, so settled down to fix the wagon, giggling at how stupid some people can be.
I think after 10 mins and a constant stream of other vehicles just going round both her and me, she got the message.....
But as you say TLW, some people just wait until they are told what to do?... I mean, why?... dont they teach them how to re-plan a route in emergency?....
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Post by silverdragon on Sept 21, 2014 8:44:56 GMT
Posting this here, because it is what it is. news.sky.com/story/1334918/body-odour-tests-for-taxi-drivers-cause-stinkErm.... No it isnt...... Later in the artice, .... And then, So, THREE drivers were definitely doing it wrong, but importantly, you wait half hour for a cab, NOBODY got time to sit there in a cab that stinks of sweat and the great unwashed....... Keep up minimum standards, we aint racist, we dont actually care as long as you dont be stinky.... its that easy..... That and dont take the piza when you try doing a five mile trip for a two mile journey. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 21, 2014 14:14:33 GMT
Sort of similar experience, had a trailer throw a tyre one time, parked it at the side of the road, hazards on, and set about changing the wheel. Punctured by some shard of bottle that had left some impressive scars in the wheel arch as well?.... Was under the wagon when I hear a blare of Car horn..... Of course I retire to a safe distance, as in out from under there like a scalded rat out a drain pipe, to see a vehicle on behind my wagon, getting furious..... "Get it moved" or something like that being shouted at me as they saw me.... There was enough room to get a bus through sideways, as the local saying goes. They seriously were going to stay there until I moved it?... I check, no, I am not blocking anyone's drive, no turning, they cant be serious?... So I ignore them and get back to fixing the wheel. More horn blaring. Remembering an old joke, I go to their passenger side window, which was duly rolled down, and I say to the driver "Tell you what, you go fix the wagon and I will stay here and honk your horn then?.. any twit can do that?.... They had by now got a line of half a dozen cars behind them, curious as hell as to why they cant just go round??...>>>>^^^^^^>>>> As two or three in the line decide to just go past this "Incident", I leave the lady to her musings. She was furious, shouting insults. I just love a spot of irony in the morning, so settled down to fix the wagon, giggling at how stupid some people can be. I think after 10 mins and a constant stream of other vehicles just going round both her and me, she got the message..... But as you say TLW, some people just wait until they are told what to do?... I mean, why?... dont they teach them how to re-plan a route in emergency?.... we ARE a tourist town. from 25-50% of drivers on any given weekend are not familiar with the town, and have a good excuse for that. on top of that our grid layout looks like it was drawn out by Salvador Dali. because of this it is not unreasonable for a person being detoured around their turn to need directions. to me that is a minor inconvenience. however, to give an example: yesterday we had a minor accident. visualize a "T" intersection. the through street is 3 lanes: one each direction and a center turn lane the cross street is 2½ lanes. (one lane to turn in and enough room on the outbound for two cars to sit side by side if one is planning to turn each direction) one person was tuning into the cross street across traffic, and was struck by a car in the lane he was turning across. this left both cars in the middlt of the jucntion of the T. cars going into the T could squeeze by on one side and cars going out of the T could squeeze by on the other side. cars going through on the side the cross street is on could use the center turn lane to get around. then the 2 police cars and the fire engine arrive: they park in the center turn lane on each side of the junction. so, now the incident scene is an island in the middle of traffic: those leaving the cross street must only turn to the passenger side. those approaching on the side of the cross street must turn into the cross street. those approaching from the side opposite the cross street may only proceed straight through. had they put the emergency vehicles in the lane that was already blocked, they could have routed the blocked traffic in the turning lane, and simply had one flagger to expedite people turning in and out of the cross street. |
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Post by mrfatso on Sept 21, 2014 14:51:48 GMT
Sort of similar experience, had a trailer throw a tyre one time, parked it at the side of the road, hazards on, and set about changing the wheel. Punctured by some shard of bottle that had left some impressive scars in the wheel arch as well?.... Was under the wagon when I hear a blare of Car horn..... Of course I retire to a safe distance, as in out from under there like a scalded rat out a drain pipe, to see a vehicle on behind my wagon, getting furious..... "Get it moved" or something like that being shouted at me as they saw me.... There was enough room to get a bus through sideways, as the local saying goes. They seriously were going to stay there until I moved it?... I check, no, I am not blocking anyone's drive, no turning, they cant be serious?... So I ignore them and get back to fixing the wheel. More horn blaring. Remembering an old joke, I go to their passenger side window, which was duly rolled down, and I say to the driver "Tell you what, you go fix the wagon and I will stay here and honk your horn then?.. any twit can do that?.... They had by now got a line of half a dozen cars behind them, curious as hell as to why they cant just go round??...>>>>^^^^^^>>>> As two or three in the line decide to just go past this "Incident", I leave the lady to her musings. She was furious, shouting insults. I just love a spot of irony in the morning, so settled down to fix the wagon, giggling at how stupid some people can be. I think after 10 mins and a constant stream of other vehicles just going round both her and me, she got the message..... But as you say TLW, some people just wait until they are told what to do?... I mean, why?... dont they teach them how to re-plan a route in emergency?.... we ARE a tourist town. from 25-50% of drivers on any given weekend are not familiar with the town, and have a good excuse for that. on top of that our grid layout looks like it was drawn out by Salvador Dali. because of this it is not unreasonable for a person being detoured around their turn to need directions. to me that is a minor inconvenience. however, to give an example: Grid system designed by Dali, you are lucky, try living with roads that have evolved over Hundreds of years, some designed for a Horse and cart originally that cannot be widened as there are too many houses in the way, allow from the Victorians to push a railway line through the centre of town, and then some urban improvements done by the Luftwaffe in the 1940s, and worse than them 196osUrban planners. That was on of the problems with this accident, it was once only into the Town centre from the North East side of Town, diverting meant going either to the Northern route or East. We too have quite a few visitors as we have a major Tourist airport, that serves London, that cause problems. A few years ago my Brother had to build a new Road-about and Traffic light junction at the entrance to the airport , he said it would cause problems, when they switched it on chaos. The BBC radio traffic girl read an announcement that was " due to the Traffic Lights switched on Traffic to Luton Airport is now queuing on the M1 motorway ", she added"they must mean switched off"" but people rang in to assure her they meant on. (the M1 is on of the UKs major routes into/out of London). They tried them twice more, with similar results and then never used them again. |
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Post by the light works on Sept 21, 2014 15:43:26 GMT
we ARE a tourist town. from 25-50% of drivers on any given weekend are not familiar with the town, and have a good excuse for that. on top of that our grid layout looks like it was drawn out by Salvador Dali. because of this it is not unreasonable for a person being detoured around their turn to need directions. to me that is a minor inconvenience. however, to give an example: Grid system designed by Dali, you are lucky, try living with roads that have evolved over Hundreds of years, some designed for a Horse and cart originally that cannot be widened as there are too many houses in the way, allow from the Victorians to push a railway line through the centre of town, and then some urban improvements done by the Luftwaffe in the 1940s, and worse than them 196osUrban planners. That was on of the problems with this accident, it was once only into the Town centre from the North East side of Town, diverting meant going either to the Northern route or East. We too have quite a few visitors as we have a major Tourist airport, that serves London, that cause problems. A few years ago my Brother had to build a new Road-about and Traffic light junction at the entrance to the airport , he said it would cause problems, when they switched it on chaos. The BBC radio traffic girl read an announcement that was " due to the Traffic Lights switched on Traffic to Luton Airport is now queuing on the M1 motorway ", she added"they must mean switched off"" but people rang in to assure her they meant on. (the M1 is on of the UKs major routes into/out of London). They tried them twice more, with similar results and then never used them again. My town has accomplished in 50 years, what it has taken London centuries to do. which makes it amusing except that it is so annoying. |
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