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Post by silverdragon on Aug 22, 2014 13:45:15 GMT
Loki, Depends on the bee.. how good are you at telling what kind of bee it is?...
Normal "Honey" bee we all know, stand still, be calm, it will work out you aint a flower or a threat and move on. Other Bees, RUN!.... Some will defend the nest for up to quarter of a mile.
Wasps... what good is a Wasp?... stay away from them, and avoid at all costs, many wasps will sting first ask questions after, knowing which is which is a dangerous playtime.
Can Kids tell the difference between a Wasp and a Bee, at what age do they bother to find out, and is that as soon as they get stung.....
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Post by Lokifan on Aug 22, 2014 13:54:52 GMT
Interesting cultural difference in paper delivery:
One primary reason papers are delivered on the doorstep in the US vs. in the mailbox is that it is a federal crime for any non-postal employee to put anything but officially delivered mail through a mailbox.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 22, 2014 14:25:44 GMT
Interesting cultural difference in paper delivery: One primary reason papers are delivered on the doorstep in the US vs. in the mailbox is that it is a federal crime for any non-postal employee to put anything but officially delivered mail through a mailbox. But... but... but... stop a mo, thats just silly?.... The whole idea of post boxes is that "Stuff" can be delivered without having to knock and wait for the home owner?.... I didnt think there would be any "You have to be a certain person" to actually post anything, and if so, why cant Paper delivery persons cont?... its not as if what they are delivering isnt "Welcome" is it?.... However...... "Spam". On any given week, we must get at least half a Lb of "Spam" leaflets for Kebeby shops pizza shops special offers from shops we dont go to advice on how to stop mauling the postman and self help groups like the Pepsi-Anonymous group and the save our local eyesore campaign..... I can see how regulating who puts what through your postbox may be actually a good idea.
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Post by Lokifan on Aug 22, 2014 14:34:07 GMT
Yup. If you want to send something inside my home, you're going to PAY! At least the cost of a stamp, anyhow. That, and you'll only get things through your mailbox that follow postal rules in terms of size and weight.
Ads that aren't mailed are usually in the form of "door hangers"--they're like the "Do not disturb" signs you hang on your hotel room door (I assume you have those). Cheaper ones are wedged in your doorframe or doorknob, and since they're likely to fall with a slight breeze, that's not an ideal place to advertise.
The advertiser faces the dilemma of paying to send you junk mail (mildly annoying but gets in my house), hanging something on the door (mildly annoying as I have to toss it in the trash as I enter), or leaving it on my lawn/doorstep (more annoying and more likely to make me NOT use their service--I don't like litter).
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 22, 2014 15:03:38 GMT
I had a friend who put his Paper re-cycling bin at his front door with a sign "Junk mail in here please"..... Strange thing was it worked. "Impressed".... Except it worked too well, his neighbours would add their junk mail as well, the bin was filled before collection day. He now keeps a smaller bin there that he empties out a little at a time, to dissuade other people just filling it. But it still works.
ALSO... he is the one who got me onto a junk mail revenge campaign.... Take the first two envelopes that arrive, remove anything with your name or address on it, find the return envelope inside, put the first set of junk paperwork in the second return envelope, and the second in the first, and send it back in the post. See how they like opening other peoples junk mail. And PAYING for it to go through the mail as well... Priceless. If you havnt tried this trick yet, its a "Must". If you have noticed a distinct reduction in special offers with a return envelope inside being poked through your door, its because its working, they ARE getting fed up with our tricks.
But we are getting off topic.
Saying that, I have had an offer of bulk mail deliveries, its obviously getting paid to leaflet drop an area, and for a Kid, it would be an easy way to make pocket money?....
I am getting used to junk mail as part of life now. Its just they chop down tree's just to make my recycle paper bin heavier. Such a waste. Some of it for a kids toy shop for instance, I dont even look past the name of the shop....
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2014 15:14:32 GMT
Loki, Depends on the bee.. how good are you at telling what kind of bee it is?... Normal "Honey" bee we all know, stand still, be calm, it will work out you aint a flower or a threat and move on. Other Bees, RUN!.... Some will defend the nest for up to quarter of a mile. Wasps... what good is a Wasp?... stay away from them, and avoid at all costs, many wasps will sting first ask questions after, knowing which is which is a dangerous playtime. Can Kids tell the difference between a Wasp and a Bee, at what age do they bother to find out, and is that as soon as they get stung..... actually, if they are not defending their house, most wasps will still not sting a person. however, I make no claims that some breeds may not take a bite out of the victim. many wasps ARE carnivorous. but I have had wasps land, help themselves to whatever I was eating or drinking, and then fly off to digest without otherwise bothering me.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2014 15:17:39 GMT
I had a friend who put his Paper re-cycling bin at his front door with a sign "Junk mail in here please"..... Strange thing was it worked. "Impressed".... Except it worked too well, his neighbours would add their junk mail as well, the bin was filled before collection day. He now keeps a smaller bin there that he empties out a little at a time, to dissuade other people just filling it. But it still works. ALSO... he is the one who got me onto a junk mail revenge campaign.... Take the first two envelopes that arrive, remove anything with your name or address on it, find the return envelope inside, put the first set of junk paperwork in the second return envelope, and the second in the first, and send it back in the post. See how they like opening other peoples junk mail. And PAYING for it to go through the mail as well... Priceless. If you havnt tried this trick yet, its a "Must". If you have noticed a distinct reduction in special offers with a return envelope inside being poked through your door, its because its working, they ARE getting fed up with our tricks. But we are getting off topic. Saying that, I have had an offer of bulk mail deliveries, its obviously getting paid to leaflet drop an area, and for a Kid, it would be an easy way to make pocket money?.... I am getting used to junk mail as part of life now. Its just they chop down tree's just to make my recycle paper bin heavier. Such a waste. Some of it for a kids toy shop for instance, I dont even look past the name of the shop.... I assume by that, you do not have curbside pickup of the recycle bin? otherwise the neighbors would have no good reason to make the journey to fill your friend's box when their own is closer. here, if the garbage service has a trash bin at your house, they also drop a recycle bin. household trash is weekly pickup, and you are charged by the size of the bin. recycling is picked up twice a month, and there is no charge. - stuff that the bin cannot accommodate (glass, motor oil, electronics, plastic bags, etc) may be dropped at the office at no charge.
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Post by ironhold on Aug 22, 2014 22:40:51 GMT
Boxes - Some newspapers will provide customers with special newspaper boxes that they can mount to their mailboxes. Additionally, some mailboxes are pre-built with slots for newspapers. I've even seen a few people create their own slots out of pipe or other materials.
Fences - I got a better measurement last night, and so I'm revising my estimate of the height of each fence upward by a foot.
Papers - Whenever the papers arrive, someone will need to inspect them.
1. The team will need a minimum quantity of newspapers of the exact same edition for the sake of consistency. Different editions will have different sections, different inserts, and generally different measurements.
2. Each individual paper from each edition will need to be inspected to ensure that the papers themselves are in good condition and that they have all of their sections and inserts.
*Improperly-adjusted strapping machines and sloppy handling can result in individual papers being damaged even before they make their way to us couriers. At the paper where I work, we pretty much presume that the top and bottom paper of each bundle will need to be junked due to damage.
*Careless or short-handed workers may not be aware of issues with the mechanisms feeding the sections and inserts. This can lead to papers with too many or too few sections and inserts. On occasion, the mechanisms will also damage papers (usually the inmost section) and/or inserts.
I had to junk about 30+ papers last night because of damage and missing inserts. This included several papers where only two of the night's five inserts were actually inserted. The paper lists each edition's inserts on the front cover, and so we have to be attentive concerning how many inserts actually make it into each edition.
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Post by the light works on Aug 22, 2014 23:03:00 GMT
Boxes - Some newspapers will provide customers with special newspaper boxes that they can mount to their mailboxes. Additionally, some mailboxes are pre-built with slots for newspapers. I've even seen a few people create their own slots out of pipe or other materials. Fences - I got a better measurement last night, and so I'm revising my estimate of the height of each fence upward by a foot. Papers - Whenever the papers arrive, someone will need to inspect them. 1. The team will need a minimum quantity of newspapers of the exact same edition for the sake of consistency. Different editions will have different sections, different inserts, and generally different measurements. 2. Each individual paper from each edition will need to be inspected to ensure that the papers themselves are in good condition and that they have all of their sections and inserts. *Improperly-adjusted strapping machines and sloppy handling can result in individual papers being damaged even before they make their way to us couriers. At the paper where I work, we pretty much presume that the top and bottom paper of each bundle will need to be junked due to damage. *Careless or short-handed workers may not be aware of issues with the mechanisms feeding the sections and inserts. This can lead to papers with too many or too few sections and inserts. On occasion, the mechanisms will also damage papers (usually the inmost section) and/or inserts. I had to junk about 30+ papers last night because of damage and missing inserts. This included several papers where only two of the night's five inserts were actually inserted. The paper lists each edition's inserts on the front cover, and so we have to be attentive concerning how many inserts actually make it into each edition. but if you are delivering the papers by tossing, your technique needs to adapt to different editions. - so what technique is the most adaptable? I seem to recall hearing thirdhand that one of our previous paper carriers got the papers and inserts delivered separately, and had to stuff them, himself.
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 23, 2014 1:09:52 GMT
Errm, no.
They just need a small selection of the most common papers that kids deliver, and from them work out the average size and weight.
They can then just buy newspaper quality paper and make their own 'Mythbusters Times' in the required quantities for testing.
Again, don't get too complex in regards what is needed. The basic myth/question is about throwing papers, and you don't actually need real papers to do that. Just something of the right size and weight, which are things they can make themselves with ease.
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Post by ironhold on Aug 23, 2014 1:25:17 GMT
I seem to recall hearing thirdhand that one of our previous paper carriers got the papers and inserts delivered separately, and had to stuff them, himself. Hand-inserting papers is a sure way to guarantee that the papers will have all of the inserts and will not be damaged by the insert process, but takes an astoundingly long time. I've had to do it before when the press forgot to insert something or we had ads come in at the last minute, and it was never pleasant.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 23, 2014 14:36:19 GMT
Oh they would. They are too damn lazy to put their own bin out.
There is a rule you should not overstuff your Bin, one householder cant be bothered to take his own bin out, so starts with the putting his trash in someone elses bin, overfilling it, and getting a note from the collection service that they wont empty it because its too over fill to move.
The next time mr Lazy tries that rick, within an hour of him putting his trash bags in someone elses bin its thrown back over his fence.....
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2014 15:52:29 GMT
Oh they would. They are too damn lazy to put their own bin out. There is a rule you should not overstuff your Bin, one householder cant be bothered to take his own bin out, so starts with the putting his trash in someone elses bin, overfilling it, and getting a note from the collection service that they wont empty it because its too over fill to move. The next time mr Lazy tries that rick, within an hour of him putting his trash bags in someone elses bin its thrown back over his fence..... I guess that's what I would call, working hard at being lazy.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2014 15:58:28 GMT
Oh they would. They are too damn lazy to put their own bin out. There is a rule you should not overstuff your Bin, one householder cant be bothered to take his own bin out, so starts with the putting his trash in someone elses bin, overfilling it, and getting a note from the collection service that they wont empty it because its too over fill to move. The next time mr Lazy tries that rick, within an hour of him putting his trash bags in someone elses bin its thrown back over his fence..... I guess that's what I would call, working hard at being lazy. Hmm... could we find a way to put laziness to the test - is it truly more work to get out of chores than it is to just do them? how could we do that?
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Post by OziRiS on Aug 23, 2014 22:41:00 GMT
I guess that's what I would call, working hard at being lazy. Hmm... could we find a way to put laziness to the test - is it truly more work to get out of chores than it is to just do them? how could we do that? I'm trying to teach my kid the difference between "the good kind of lazy" and "the bad kind of lazy" when it comes to school work. The bad kind of lazy is where you either don't do what you're supposed to do, get in trouble and have to do it anyway, or do what you're supposed to do, but do it badly, get in trouble and have to do it over. The good kind of lazy is where you spend a little time figuring out how to do it right with the least possible amount of effort and then doing it right the first time. That way you won't have to do it over and if you ever have to do something similar again, you'll already know the easiest way to do it and you'll be able to finish faster. This is what used to be commonly known as "creativity", but in today's schools that's a NO-NO word. Which is why I teach it to him, because there's no way in hell he's learning it at school!
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Post by Cybermortis on Aug 23, 2014 23:10:22 GMT
Humm. Maybe 'is it better to spend time planning how to clean a room, or just get stuck straight in?'
That would be testable much more easily.
Come to think of it, maybe add 'many hands make light work' as a myth? While clearly this is not a 'real' myth as more people could clean a room faster than just one. Logic would suggest that there would come a point where you have so many people they are going to get in each others way or start to argue about the best way to proceed. (I think I posted this idea at some point). Could be fun doing this with kids, rather than adults especially if the kids are basically dropped into a room and left to their own devices to clean it.
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Post by ironhold on Aug 23, 2014 23:25:09 GMT
There's a concept in organizational management which holds that one of the worst things a group can do when they're behind schedule is to add more members. This is because more time is generally lost on bringing the new members up to speed than the group gains back by the new help.
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Post by the light works on Aug 23, 2014 23:48:57 GMT
hmm - I posted a thread about the law of diminishing returns some time ago - about "give me a big enough lever and a fulcrum to rest it on and I can move the world" - and the fact that if you get too much mechanical advantage, you use more energy moving the machine than you gain advantage.
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Post by the light works on Aug 28, 2014 1:15:30 GMT
to drag it back on topic, how about the myth that video games prepare you for real life? I've heard it about both FPS games and driving games - both of which would require some care to test without putting the kids OR copycat kids (home viewers) at risk.
any ideas?
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Post by ironhold on Aug 28, 2014 1:33:39 GMT
We'd have issues with showing game footage on TV, which may lead to licensing issues that Discovery and Beyond would rather not deal with.
The only way around it (aside from a ridiculous amount of careful camera work & editing) would be to commission games for the episode, but that could get expensive and require a fair amount of lead time. Discovery & Beyond might get some of that money back by later making the games available for purchase, but there's no guarantee they'd earn it all back.
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