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Post by ironhold on Aug 19, 2014 21:55:39 GMT
"The Greenhouse Effect", original US air date 3 October 1985. The premise of the episode is as simple as it is silly. A terrorist infiltrates a research lab in order to steal a sample of a new "super" jet fuel being developed. However, he drew too much attention to himself during the theft, and so now both the police and the military are after him. Desperate to escape, he decides to hide the container inside a random greenhouse he encounters. However, the police and the owner of the greenhouse surprise him before he can escape. As the terrorist is knocked unconscious during the struggle, he is unable to tell anyone where the sample is. By the time anyone thinks to check the greenhouse, the sample has turned into fumes and has spread throughout the enclosed structure. The plants that were exposed to the fumes grow to gigantic size, such that a potato's vines are enough to ensnare a military-grade motorcycle. Upon seeing this, the terrorists get the idea to forgo using the fuel for their aircraft and instead get the idea to seed Chicago with these mutant plants. The day is saved when a chemical weapons expert develops an herbicide which is effective in neutralizing the fuel. The sort of gigantic growth shown in the cartoon is clearly impossible. But could a type of jet fuel prove to be a potent fertilizer as well? I know that some plants love nitrogen, which IIRC is also used in some fuels.
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Post by silverdragon on Aug 21, 2014 8:05:16 GMT
Petro-Chemical Fuel is Bio-Hazard for good reason, its poison to all life forms.
Its also highly explosive.
In ADR (Haz-Chem) rules, the highest hazard "Wins", and gets star billing on the orange plate, but a fuel spill is an explosion and fire risk first and send everything for containment as a bio-hazard second.
Preferably together, but the explosive risk is the initial problem.
As a sort of residue of plants or any organic or animal, which is what oil is, its the bits left over after all nutrients that can be considered food for anything else have been taken.
Gas form fuel, Hydrogen Oxygen mix is about the best propulsion, adding Nitrogen to the mix?.. I cant see how that would help?...
Nitrogen into petro-chemical, how would you combine that, its gas at room temp, and as far as I know, it doesmt dissolve in liquids that could be used as fuel....
Of course, I aint a rocket scientist here.
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Post by silverdragon on Nov 17, 2014 10:39:35 GMT
Correction to the above.
If the bio hazard is serious, as in one cm squared of that gas can poison a whole town with the seriousness that is poison gas, that "Wins" and the bio hazard stars the bill over any explosive risk.....
Someone somewhere will "Bean count" the seriousness of each individual product and work out how many casualties each individual component may cause.
Now the strange bit...
At a certain point, of which I do not know, they will say that as a load that cant be transported.
In that case, to use an example, Hydrogen and Oxygen, it will be split into liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen and transported as two different loads with two different shipping times.
They dont want both tanks on the same road within half a mile of each other?....
When it gets to site it can be combined back to H2O in gas or liquid gas form but not during shipping.
Explosive is not always the most serious risk...
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Post by the light works on Dec 7, 2014 4:28:43 GMT
Correction to the above. If the bio hazard is serious, as in one cm squared of that gas can poison a whole town with the seriousness that is poison gas, that "Wins" and the bio hazard stars the bill over any explosive risk..... Someone somewhere will "Bean count" the seriousness of each individual product and work out how many casualties each individual component may cause. Now the strange bit... At a certain point, of which I do not know, they will say that as a load that cant be transported. In that case, to use an example, Hydrogen and Oxygen, it will be split into liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen and transported as two different loads with two different shipping times. They dont want both tanks on the same road within half a mile of each other?.... When it gets to site it can be combined back to H2O in gas or liquid gas form but not during shipping. Explosive is not always the most serious risk... our favorite for drill scenarios is the triple whammy. if it touches you, it kills you (including breathing) it goes "boom" and water makes it bigger. it makes the scenario a "do you have the comprehension to be able to write off "victims" in order to save the lives of your crew?" exercise. here, the placquard will usually say what it is - and we have a guidebook we can reference that will tell us what the worst hazards are - but the warning labels will say everything it can do. |
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Post by c64 on Nov 29, 2015 14:43:42 GMT
Solid fertilizer is a very good oxidizer. Artificial fertilizer and Diesel is a cheap explosive which is preferred by terrorists since you can buy both components in insanely large quantities fully legal and suspicious. Also this explosive is perfect to destroy concrete and "move large things" like walls and support columns of buildings.
There are fuels which actually contain some kind of plant fertilizer as oxidizer, e.g. the one used for "top fuel" racing, but this is not good for living things at all.
All kinds of "high performance fuels" like mineral fuels and many other fuels are toxic.
But poison can encourage growth! Some poisons make animals gain weight since the body can't get rid of it and has to secure the poison in fat. When the animal looses weight again by starving, it will die from the poison.
It is similar for plants. Some poisons can make plants grow faster. But while the plant will grow bigger, it won't grow healthy at all. Usually the plant is very deformed or unable to support its own weight. Also the poison is then transferred to the fruits and parts which are used as edible.
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