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10 & 2
Sept 25, 2014 1:41:29 GMT
Post by wvengineer on Sept 25, 2014 1:41:29 GMT
The drivers Ed thread got me thinking, so I thought I should start a new thread.
10 & 2, is that really the best place to keep your hands for all cars?
When I drive an automatic, 10 and 2 feels pretty comfortable.
However, I learned on a stick shift. On those cars, when I hand my hands at 10 & 2, when I would take my hands off to shift, my left hand tended to drop, pulling the whole car to the left. So I got in the habit of my left hand being at 12 and my right hand on the gear shift. That worked better for me that I had more freedom to turn the wheel before I would need to use the hand-over-hand to turn. The upshot is I did better than most for shifting during a turn.
I only used 10 & 2 when on a long haul where I know I don't need to shift for a while. But for the most time, I am at 12 & stick. The up shot there is that the radio and HVAC controls are within in easy reach of my hand on the stick. In many cases, the be operated with just a stretch of a finger, the hand staying on the stick.
So, with a stick soft, is 10 & 2 really the best option?
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10 & 2
Sept 25, 2014 2:01:36 GMT
Post by GTCGreg on Sept 25, 2014 2:01:36 GMT
When driving my Jeep which has a stick shift, I usually keep my left hand at about 9 and my right hand on the shift. Once I'm done shifting, I keep my right hand at about 4:30 while resting my right forearm on my right knee. Of course, those positions change when making a turn.
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10 & 2
Sept 25, 2014 18:22:27 GMT
Post by ironhold on Sept 25, 2014 18:22:27 GMT
I drive an automatic.
I do 9 and 12 (give or take) when I drive.
When I'm in my car, the 9 position lets me rest my left elbow against the door's arm rest, essentially letting me "lock" my arm and hand in position so as to help stabilize the wheel. From there, I use my other hand to casually turn the wheel when I need to turn. I don't use both hands to turn unless I'm attempting a sharp curve / turn or I'm having to dodge something.
I honestly don't recall how I started doing it, but it now feels so natural I automatically do it whenever I'm driving any vehicle with an automatic transmission.
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10 & 2
Sept 26, 2014 5:05:14 GMT
Post by kharnynb on Sept 26, 2014 5:05:14 GMT
I'm tall and a tad lazy, so during long stretch driving i tend to do 7 and 5 resting on the knees
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10 & 2
Sept 26, 2014 5:37:55 GMT
Post by the light works on Sept 26, 2014 5:37:55 GMT
the current training is now 3 and 9, because of the possibility of having your hands struck by the airbag.
I tend to drive with my left hand wherever it is convenient to rest it on an armrest. If I expect to do a lot of maneuvering, I will tend to drive with my left hand at 12:00. my right hand will be either where it can perform other tasks, or where it balances the wheel.
the other side of the coin is that the 10 and 2 came into popularity before power assisted steering was as common as it is, now. at the time it was more likely that emergency maneuvers would require both hands, and hitting a bad bump would need both hands to retain control.
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10 & 2
Oct 3, 2014 1:21:25 GMT
Post by wvengineer on Oct 3, 2014 1:21:25 GMT
I have tried 3 & 9 setup, but they way they make steering wheels, they always have a crosspiece where my thumbs would go, making for an uncomfortable grip. Steering wheel always push me to the 10 & 2, or atleast a 9:30 & 2:30.
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10 & 2
Oct 3, 2014 19:39:44 GMT
Post by WhutScreenName on Oct 3, 2014 19:39:44 GMT
10-2 requires me to hold my elbows up, not something that is very comfortable. I tend to hold wherever it is I can rest my elbows on the window/arm rest, and the console in the middle. On standard transmission, one hand on 12 (or occasionally 6) with the other on the shift, is common.
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10 & 2
Oct 4, 2014 0:44:08 GMT
Post by the light works on Oct 4, 2014 0:44:08 GMT
10-2 requires me to hold my elbows up, not something that is very comfortable. I tend to hold wherever it is I can rest my elbows on the window/arm rest, and the console in the middle. On standard transmission, one hand on 12 (or occasionally 6) with the other on the shift, is common. I have driven many thousands of miles with my (door side) hand at about 7:30 and the other hand on the center console or gear shift.
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10 & 2
Oct 4, 2014 15:25:38 GMT
Post by watcher56 on Oct 4, 2014 15:25:38 GMT
I keep my knees at about the 5 & 7 o'clock position, and my hands solidly on the keyboard of my cell phone.
[JUST KIDDING - Don't think I even can text with my old Moto V323.]
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10 & 2
Oct 4, 2014 19:49:33 GMT
Post by the light works on Oct 4, 2014 19:49:33 GMT
I keep my knees at about the 5 & 7 o'clock position, and my hands solidly on the keyboard of my cell phone. [JUST KIDDING - Don't think I even can text with my old Moto V323.] I once drove about four miles using my knees to steer. the things we do when we are young and invincible.
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10 & 2
Oct 5, 2014 7:28:11 GMT
Post by silverdragon on Oct 5, 2014 7:28:11 GMT
"Whatever is most comfortable"....... But that depends on what you are doing, and what you are driving. Too many variables to say one way is better than the other. A real alert driver will change the grip dependant on whats happening outside. But with Power steering, the "Shuffle" technique never cross your hands bullfeathers is right out the window these days, if you have to go for lock-to-lock to manoeuvre, spin it one handed if you can, whatever gets the job done safely whilst in control.....
But again, learning to drive and actually driving, two different things.
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10 & 2
Oct 5, 2014 14:28:50 GMT
Post by the light works on Oct 5, 2014 14:28:50 GMT
"Whatever is most comfortable"....... But that depends on what you are doing, and what you are driving. Too many variables to say one way is better than the other. A real alert driver will change the grip dependant on whats happening outside. But with Power steering, the "Shuffle" technique never cross your hands bullfeathers is right out the window these days, if you have to go for lock-to-lock to manoeuvre, spin it one handed if you can, whatever gets the job done safely whilst in control..... But again, learning to drive and actually driving, two different things. and then we have one of my college friends whose right had was barely functional to operate the gear selector on the automatic transmission (and I believe may have worked throttle and brake with her left foot) - she failed her first test because she could not spin the wheel rapidly enough to satisfy the tester. she ultimately ended up using an "idiot knob" to facilitate passing the driving test.
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10 & 2
Oct 6, 2014 2:01:47 GMT
Post by alabastersandman on Oct 6, 2014 2:01:47 GMT
When I drove a stick, my right hand was most often on the shifter. My left hand was wherever I felt it would make the most sense to have it based on the road in front of me. On a long cruise I often changed hand position because if I held my arms in one position on the steering wheel I would lose circulation in my arms. It also depended on the road conditions and traffic.
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