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Post by silverdragon on Oct 8, 2014 9:11:42 GMT
Joggers... the very word installs dread in many people....
I hate joggers who are rude. What gives them the right to just elbows their way to the front of the que at the crossing and shout insulting "Get out of the way" things at other pavement users?....
Enough gripe... whats the Myth?...
The Myth is that Jogging is Healthy. (In all forms)
Well, is it?...
Maybe it is of your jogging is confined to a Get-OFF-the-bloody-road status, sure, go ahead, jog down every path in that woodland, be healthy, just dont annoy walkers. But on Roadways?... Especially BUSY roadways?...
I try as much as possible not to walk alongside busy roads, because the traffic fumes make me cough at time.
So inhaling fumes from Traffic is good for you is it?.... Can they test inner city jogging along busy roadways against "Treadmill" jogging against woodland jogging, see which is better.
My hopeful result from this myth is woodland jogging is healthy, Roadway jogging is worse for you than any other form of exercise. That way I can poor scorn right back at the twerp who tried to "Jog" in front of me as I was about to pull out of a junction......
If they can obliterate Joggers from Cityscape hazards, its better for all of us.
Side Myth Cycling to work is better for you.....
See above. Is cycling to work through fume filled city streets really better for you?.. or are you just sucking exhaust pipes into an early grave.....
Can you also test what exposure the average Driver has to exhaust fumes, Air/Con vs No filtration etc.....
My guess is that an equal distance by time, Car drivers still have less exposure, even though breathing the same fumes, they are sucking in less volume than a heavy breathing exorcise uphill bikeist.
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Post by WhutScreenName on Oct 8, 2014 13:19:49 GMT
Here is one link talking about the benefits of walking/riding to work. I would surmise that, while not specifically mentioned, jogging would fit into this same catagory. While similar this article talks about the mental benefits associated with walking/riding to work and the mental toll driving takes. One thing you mentioned is the jogger who cut you off at the junction. Clearly practicing safe habits while jogging/walking/biking/driving are all essential in order for things to be 'even'. Anyone not practicing those safe habits, shouldn't be counted against the results.
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Post by the light works on Oct 8, 2014 13:48:03 GMT
I believe the current thinking is that jogging or running as a habit does more knee and foot damage than the cardiac benefit it provides. - but it is a highly debated topic.
as for bicycling to work, my brother did the math back in the late 80s, and found that his increased caloric consumption from bicycling came with a higher price tag than the fuel he would have burned driving.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 9, 2014 8:11:23 GMT
So Highly Suspect... Being healthy can damage your heath.
I thought as much....
I truly believe you should be as healthy as you need to be. I can manage to drive a truck as required, thate enough for me, as long as I pass the physical, I am happy.
If your job requires you walk 10 mile per day, thats the right exercise you need. And all that you need.
"Some" exercise is good for you... but over doing it affects performance elsewhere. What use cycling 10 mile to work and being completely out of breath and unable to work for the first half hour?....
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Post by the light works on Oct 9, 2014 10:59:42 GMT
So Highly Suspect... Being healthy can damage your heath. I thought as much.... I truly believe you should be as healthy as you need to be. I can manage to drive a truck as required, thate enough for me, as long as I pass the physical, I am happy. If your job requires you walk 10 mile per day, thats the right exercise you need. And all that you need. "Some" exercise is good for you... but over doing it affects performance elsewhere. What use cycling 10 mile to work and being completely out of breath and unable to work for the first half hour?.... that is one of my complaints about the religion of exercise - they recommend exercising BEFORE you go to work, to increase your stamina - and I say, no. be tired on your own time - which means if you are having trouble having the energy to get through your workday, work FIRST, and THEN exercise to increase your stamina, instead of rendering yourself MORE useless by fatiguing yourself right before you go to work.
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 10, 2014 6:09:29 GMT
Warm-Up exercises..... Exercises to warm up your muscles before you exercise?.... This is getting hard work. Thats like saying before you do some hard maths you need to do some easy stuff first just to warm up your mind?... And then, when you are all warmed up, you get with the "Start gentle"..... Your not supposed to do the real hard stuff, the stuff you came here to do, for quite a bit after you start?... I thought we did the warm up stuff already?...
So what you are saying is you have to do warm ups for the warm ups?...
Are you havin' a giraffe?....
And then, "We will start you with the practise weights".....
The what now?...
I get it. I really get it. These Gyms charge by the hour, what they have done is set you a target, then set you a comfortable six exercise days run up to that target, just so you will keep coming back for at least six weeks, of one hour each. Target weight is about the weight of a bag of concrete.....
Well, Have I got news for you..... There is a trailer full of bags of concrete. If I say to my boss its going to be six weeks of intensive training before I can haul one bag off the back of that trailer, he is going to assume I am having a laugh......
COOOOOEEEEE.... This way to the real world.......... put the leg warmers down, step away from the bowl of chalk, take that stupid nonce band off your head, and get foklifting stuck in..... this trailer full of gym equipment wont unload its self......
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Post by the light works on Oct 10, 2014 14:05:31 GMT
for that matter, why should I exert myself in order to get nothing useful done, when there is plenty of useful stuff that needs my exertion?
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Post by silverdragon on Oct 11, 2014 13:56:07 GMT
I suppose this is the division, and my city of residence may answer a few questions.
Manchester district has always been known as a place of heavy industry... "Traditionally" we all get enough exercise at work anyway.
Its just them office workers..... "Stupid" conversations have involved office staff asking if anyone working on the shop floor uses the works Gym....
Like why would we want to do that?.
One office worker spent a day working as Shotgun to one of our drivers, to find out what they actually do... It was the hardest day of his life, he came back physically wrecked.... and he had not spent the day driving either. But he could go back and enter the argument that anyone else in the office who thought all our drivers ever did was sit on their backsides all day should spend a day behind the wheel to see if they could survive.
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Post by the light works on Oct 11, 2014 14:50:26 GMT
I suppose this is the division, and my city of residence may answer a few questions. Manchester district has always been known as a place of heavy industry... "Traditionally" we all get enough exercise at work anyway. Its just them office workers..... "Stupid" conversations have involved office staff asking if anyone working on the shop floor uses the works Gym.... Like why would we want to do that?. One office worker spent a day working as Shotgun to one of our drivers, to find out what they actually do... It was the hardest day of his life, he came back physically wrecked.... and he had not spent the day driving either. But he could go back and enter the argument that anyone else in the office who thought all our drivers ever did was sit on their backsides all day should spend a day behind the wheel to see if they could survive. I may have told this story before: my healthcare program sent out a survey to identify our state of health. two questions were particularly relevant: 1: how is yout cholesterol? High; high but controlled by medication; normal; I haven't been told. 2: how much exercise do you get? an hour a day at the gym; an hour a week at the gym; none; I get my exercise from working. then they mailed back a report on our health: they said because I hadn't been told my cholesterol level, that meant my cholesterol was too high. not it COuLD be too high - it WAS too high. that warmed be up for the response to question 2. "you don't get enough exercise. you cannot get enough exercise at work unless you are doing load bearing motion for at least 15 minutes a day" umm... how's that again? I spend 8 hours a day walking, squatting, rising, and climbing up and down stairs while wearing a 5-10 pound tool belt. but I decided to humor them. I got my bicycle out after work the next day and rode an 8 mile loop at an average velocity of 15 MPH, with two rest breaks. the next day I rode the same loop at an average speed of 16 MPH with one rest break. the third day I rode the same loop at an average of 18 MPH with no rest breaks. mind you, this is not sitting on a cushy seat pedaling air for 20 minutes. this is going down the road at speeds comparable to the average lycra loony.
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