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Post by Cybermortis on Dec 12, 2014 16:47:12 GMT
{Posting this on behalf of WhutScreenName, who is having trouble accessing this part of the board - CM}
In the television show Scorpion: Season 1, Episode 11 “Revenge” A group of armed thugs burst into a safe manufacturing factory and use a glass of water to crack the combo on a top of the line safe. The safe was supposedly one of the best, and they cracked it in ~30 seconds. The theory was that, while shielded from sound etc... the tumblers and such were so tightly wound, that placing the glass on top of the tumbler mechanism caused the meniscus of the water to dip when the tumbler fell into place. It's right at the beginning of the show and, to me, seems far fetched. It also seems like it could make a good myth for the show.
{Any more myths from this TV series I've never heard of? - CM}
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Post by WhutScreenName on Dec 12, 2014 17:55:56 GMT
Thank you for posting this Cyber. I can access most areas by going into the individual thread, but not if I have to go through the section.
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Post by the light works on Dec 13, 2014 3:31:24 GMT
I like this. is a glass of water more sensitive than the various forms of stethoscope? my suspicion is no, but I could be wrong.
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Post by silverdragon on Dec 14, 2014 12:20:53 GMT
I would have gone for a more amplified microphone approach, but, glass of water, thats kinda neat...
But how sensitive is water?...
Now I must ask, "Modern" safes.
Do they really continue to make modern safes with Combination locks when the simple key has got so good....
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Post by the light works on Dec 14, 2014 15:51:14 GMT
I would have gone for a more amplified microphone approach, but, glass of water, thats kinda neat... But how sensitive is water?... Now I must ask, "Modern" safes. Do they really continue to make modern safes with Combination locks when the simple key has got so good.... I would guess they might still include a mechanical combination lock for the simple reason that it takes time to dial a combination. |
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Post by WhutScreenName on Dec 15, 2014 20:15:36 GMT
While the idea seems far fetched to me, I do think it could be plausible as well. I understand TV (even based on true stories *gasp) embellish things to make for good TV, but this seems like a simple test and one that I think would be fun to see.
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Post by silverdragon on Dec 17, 2014 6:10:39 GMT
I just had an answer from someone at work.
Multi-User safes...
They are all given a "pin", that way the electronic safe can log who entered the safe and at what time, and if one person leaves, they just cancel their pin, no need to chase up for keys etc.
Now there is a good reason for combination locks.....
Kinda good idea as well.
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Post by the light works on Dec 17, 2014 15:46:15 GMT
I just had an answer from someone at work. Multi-User safes... They are all given a "pin", that way the electronic safe can log who entered the safe and at what time, and if one person leaves, they just cancel their pin, no need to chase up for keys etc. Now there is a good reason for combination locks..... Kinda good idea as well. that would be electronic locks, rather than dial locks. my suggestion was that they might keep the dial lock just to slow down access. |
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Post by Antigone68104 on Dec 22, 2014 4:03:21 GMT
When I started my job, the safes were keyed -- most were a single key, but there were a couple that required two keys to open. As the keyed safes aged and broke down, they've been replaced with safes that have dial locks. When the safe at my location was replaced, I was told this is because if something goes wrong, it's easier (and therefore cheaper) to get a locksmith to reset a safe combination than to get one to cut a new cylinder key.
So yeah, they're still making dial locks. I can't try this out, unfortunately, because it's a drop-top safe and there's nowhere to balance the glass of water.
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