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Post by silverdragon on Dec 15, 2014 9:15:17 GMT
This may well be worth investigating for next year, as maybe a little to late for this season.
However... the tales told that on Christmas Day, the great war ceased, and both sides met in no-mans land for a kick about with a football.
Did it happen?... I have seen enough evidence to say yes, it did... somewhere.... At least once. Maybe more than one place, maybe more than just the one single year....
However, I cant see that it was a mass organized thing by both sides that the fighting would stop at a certain hour and you were to report to the battlefield with a football....
So the questions needing answering.
ow much of this went on?...
Was this just once on ONE year where sporadic football matches broke out, and was that enough and strange enough to perpetuate this myth...
How much of this became "Tradition", this is back to the Great war, known as WW1 when WW2 started, did it carry on into WW2, and beyond.
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Post by Cybermortis on Dec 15, 2014 13:13:58 GMT
It happened just once, it wasn't orginised by either side but was something that 'just happened'. Although the football aspect was far from universal - in fact it may have only occured on one or two places - the face to face meetings are well documented. Or at least on the British/German lines. More than a few of the Germans had relatives in England, and several asked British troops if they would pass on letters to them. (I seem to recall one British officer being rather taken back when it turned out that his counterpart's aunt and uncle ran the shop at the end of the road he lived on).
In later years too much had happened for such get-togethers to happen. However the German's did often call across the trenches at Christmas to warn the British when someone at HQ had decided to shell part of the trenches. It appears that the German's never gave false information or warnings in this regards, nor tried to attack after giving such warnings.
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Post by mrfatso on Dec 15, 2014 13:40:39 GMT
I belive it happened as Cyber says on an ad hoc basis, but there are indications that some kick about style football matches happened in more than one place along the line. In later years the Command on both sides did not stop the war for Christmas with shelling, even gas attacks happening. There are however some reports of local truces in some sectors, take this letter. www.canadianletters.ca/letters.php?letterid=7015&warid=3&docid=1&collectionid=294Though I guess it could have been made up to make folks back home feel better.
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Post by Cybermortis on Dec 15, 2014 13:59:10 GMT
There is at least one recorded occasion in the Imperial War Museums collection relating to interviews with soldiers after the war indicating that the German's did indeed declare unofficial truces at Christmas on otherwise quiet parts of the line. This was usually a case of some good natured sing-offs between German's and Brits (the Welsh usually won these), and warnings when someone had decided to spoil Christmas by shelling. (At least this was the case in a couple of sections where the trenches were close enough together the troops in the trenches could shout at each other).
Gifts (of the none exploding type) and letters were not shared after the first year, as no one was stupid enough to stick their heads out of the trenches.
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Post by the light works on Dec 15, 2014 15:53:47 GMT
I had a girlfriend who was with the air force in Germany during the wind-down of the cold war and told me that when patrol helicopters met, it was not uncommon to set down in a convenient place and exchange trade goods.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 8, 2015 10:39:14 GMT
No the season is over, and I am no longer plagued by an exceedingly annoying advert by one of the major brands that was using that experience to make us "feel good", I can vent.
Fell Good?....
About a war that cost many thousands of lives ........
How out of touch is any advertising agency that its going to make me feel good about using them?..
I found it crass and slightly offensive that the same company did NOTHING to remember the fallen on Remembrance day.
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