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Post by c64 on Jan 30, 2015 9:30:18 GMT
I cant think like that. 3litres is foreign, 100km, for all I know, that could be here to the shop at the end of the road, or Birmingham Alabama. We consider our meters like you do your yards in a football game. The error is roughly the same. A yard is a bit less than a meter but a tall football player often makes steps bigger than a meter. k stands for "multiplied by 1000" so 1km is roughly 1000 yards. To picture things in your mind, this is more than close enough. Or just consider 1km is 9.11 football fields long for more accuracy. 7l/100km (my car used rather swiftly) consumes 7 liters per 911 football fields - or 1 French wine bottle filled with gasoline every 91 football fields. |
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Post by c64 on Jan 30, 2015 9:37:22 GMT
I cant think like that. 3litres is foreign, 100km, for all I know, that could be here to the shop at the end of the road, or Birmingham Alabama. Is your Birmingham Alabama like our "Nippes"? "Nippes" is a district of Cologne and in the local tongue of Cologne "to(wards) Nippes" can be an undefined long distance or time. And if something is "in Nippes", you've lost it in a bad way. E.g. your own nerves is a very common saying when stressed. |
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 30, 2015 10:02:34 GMT
Birmingham is the Black country, the Midlands of England, the next city down from Manchester on the M6.
It used to be a town, but is now a roundabout on the M6....
Birmingham Alabama is a city by the same name in U$A.
But they have more than one.
Birmingham Pennsylvania is another one....
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Post by the light works on Jan 30, 2015 11:52:24 GMT
So its either just a likkle more or a likkle less than what we already know..... the serious answer is, it is based on a value that is based on a planetary measurement - which makes all of its values arbitrary in the scale that humans use them; meaning you need a special artifact to measure anything in metric - but the selling point is that all conversions are base 10, and the types of units are directly interchangeable, if you remember the relationship: i.e. a ml is a cubic centimeter, if I remember right. - a 1000 CC engine is a 1L engine. |
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Post by c64 on Jan 30, 2015 18:46:49 GMT
So its either just a likkle more or a likkle less than what we already know..... the serious answer is, it is based on a value that is based on a planetary measurement - which makes all of its values arbitrary in the scale that humans use them; meaning you need a special artifact to measure anything in metric - but the selling point is that all conversions are base 10, and the types of units are directly interchangeable, if you remember the relationship: i.e. a ml is a cubic centimeter, if I remember right. - a 1000 CC engine is a 1L engine. No, you don't convert, you SCALE the same unit. 1000m = 1km, see, it's the same unit, no matter if you measure very small things or very large distances, it#s always Meter, no conversion necessary. 1cc is actually 1cm³ which is (1/100m)³. And since 1m³ is 1000 liters, scaling the cubed number causes 2 extra zeros so 1000cm³ = 1 liter. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 30, 2015 18:52:29 GMT
the serious answer is, it is based on a value that is based on a planetary measurement - which makes all of its values arbitrary in the scale that humans use them; meaning you need a special artifact to measure anything in metric - but the selling point is that all conversions are base 10, and the types of units are directly interchangeable, if you remember the relationship: i.e. a ml is a cubic centimeter, if I remember right. - a 1000 CC engine is a 1L engine. No, you don't convert, you SCALE the same unit. 1000m = 1km, see, it's the same unit, no matter if you measure very small things or very large distances, it#s always Meter, no conversion necessary. 1cc is actually 1cm³ which is (1/100m)³. And since 1m³ is 1000 liters, scaling the cubed number causes 2 extra zeros so 1000cm³ = 1 liter. terminology difference. (and CC is short for cubic centimeter.) I still say if metric is so great we should also convert to metric time. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 30, 2015 19:12:09 GMT
I still say if metric is so great we should also convert to metric time. Let's see. 10 months to a year, 10 days to a month, 10 hours to the day, 10 minutes to the hour. Ten seconds to the minute. That sure wouldn't work. We have 24 hours in a day now and I'm always running out of time. I can't imagine how I'd get anything done with just 10. Maybe that's why Henry didn't go metric with the Model-T |
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Post by c64 on Jan 30, 2015 20:59:59 GMT
No, you don't convert, you SCALE the same unit. 1000m = 1km, see, it's the same unit, no matter if you measure very small things or very large distances, it#s always Meter, no conversion necessary. 1cc is actually 1cm³ which is (1/100m)³. And since 1m³ is 1000 liters, scaling the cubed number causes 2 extra zeros so 1000cm³ = 1 liter. terminology difference. (and CC is short for cubic centimeter.) I still say if metric is so great we should also convert to metric time. Actually, we do. Most time stamp clocks count in hours only. 0.5h = 30 min. Also computers count and record in seconds or milliseconds. E.g. a PC clock and all modern Databases count the seconds since Jan 1th, 1970 |
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Post by the light works on Jan 31, 2015 0:48:09 GMT
I still say if metric is so great we should also convert to metric time. Let's see. 10 months to a year, 10 days to a month, 10 hours to the day, 10 minutes to the hour. Ten seconds to the minute. That sure wouldn't work. We have 24 hours in a day now and I'm always running out of time. I can't imagine how I'd get anything done with just 10. Maybe that's why Henry didn't go metric with the Model-Tyou skipped weeks: 10 weeks to the month, ten days to the week. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Jan 31, 2015 3:23:58 GMT
you skipped weeks: 10 weeks to the month, ten days to the week. nanoyears, kilomonths, microweeks, milliminutes, Picodays. I never was good at this metric stuff. |
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Post by the light works on Jan 31, 2015 3:37:33 GMT
you skipped weeks: 10 weeks to the month, ten days to the week. nanoyears, kilomonths, microweeks, milliminutes, Picodays. I never was good at this metric stuff. Kilodays, hectodays, Dekadays, days, decidays, centidays, millidays. (I had to look up hecto) |
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 31, 2015 7:51:08 GMT
How is Hecto?.. say Hi next time you see him.
See, there is the pint, we all get used to different measure.
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Post by craighudson on Jan 31, 2015 10:38:57 GMT
nanoyears, kilomonths, microweeks, milliminutes, Picodays. I never was good at this metric stuff. Kilodays, hectodays, Dekadays, days, decidays, centidays, millidays. (I had to look up hecto) There is always 1 microcentury ~ 52.5 minutes, in the olden days (i.e. before commercial TV channels got greedy and increased the amount of ads they did) it was the length of an hour-long ITV programme without the ads. And 1 nanocentury ~ pi seconds And 1 microfortnight = 1.2 seconds |
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Post by c64 on Jan 31, 2015 12:20:13 GMT
nanoyears, kilomonths, microweeks, milliminutes, Picodays. I never was good at this metric stuff. Kilodays, hectodays, Dekadays, days, decidays, centidays, millidays. (I had to look up hecto) The first one who understands metric here. One unit but scaled, no conversions! |
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Post by the light works on Jan 31, 2015 15:48:35 GMT
Kilodays, hectodays, Dekadays, days, decidays, centidays, millidays. (I had to look up hecto) The first one who understands metric here. One unit but scaled, no conversions! except one dekaday would convert to one paycheck, for a minimum wage worker one paycheck would convert to one microsimoleon. www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-sim1.htm |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 1, 2015 9:42:47 GMT
I am sending you a 150ft tree, to be used to create replacement pews in a historic church, I will send the dimensions, but they are in feet and inches, as they are the original build plans from 15-something??...
BTW, the pews will be collected by truck one at a time for fitting, please be aware that the loading limit on that light truck, because of the weak bridge, is two tons, the truck weighs in at one-and-a-half with a full tank of fuel, so each long pew needs to be less than half a ton, even though the original dimensions for each pew are for a bench of just over half a ton, please do some lightening to each pew, or build in some form of separating pieces to get them over that bridge.
Just in case you are wondering, I have seen that exact problem in real life.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 1, 2015 9:43:47 GMT
Add on that we live in a country built in feet and inches.
All of our history is Imperial.
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Post by the light works on Feb 1, 2015 15:36:55 GMT
I am sending you a 150ft tree, to be used to create replacement pews in a historic church, I will send the dimensions, but they are in feet and inches, as they are the original build plans from 15-something??... BTW, the pews will be collected by truck one at a time for fitting, please be aware that the loading limit on that light truck, because of the weak bridge, is two tons, the truck weighs in at one-and-a-half with a full tank of fuel, so each long pew needs to be less than half a ton, even though the original dimensions for each pew are for a bench of just over half a ton, please do some lightening to each pew, or build in some form of separating pieces to get them over that bridge. Just in case you are wondering, I have seen that exact problem in real life. how long is the bridge? is it possible to use a truck long enough that only one set of axles is on the bridge at a time? is it possible to build the parts of the pews and do final assembly as they are installed? what poor dumb bast*** gets to carry the pews into the building? oh, and do you realize that your truck is lighter than my Jeep? |
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Post by the light works on Feb 1, 2015 15:38:42 GMT
Add on that we live in a country built in feet and inches. All of our history is Imperial. and that is my biggest beef with those who think we must immediately and arbitrarily convert everything to metric: do we build and sell adaptors for everything, or do we have everything in oddball numbers? I use a lot of 21mm PVC conduit and 16mm EMT. |
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Post by c64 on Feb 1, 2015 19:00:09 GMT
Add on that we live in a country built in feet and inches. All of our history is Imperial. Same here, just different feet. And we had "Zoll" instead of "inch". A folding ruler is still called "Zollstock" (inches-stick) which originally refereed to a wooden ruler. Plumbing gauges are still measured in "Zoll", but slightly modified to match even metric millimeters. Also tire and rim sizes are still measured in "Zoll" which are real inches. Just the Brits had changed that. Their original Rover Mini is still mostly manufactured in imperial standards but has metric sized tires. As far as I know, only wheelbarrows and the Mini uses metric wheels. [Edit] On second thought, this might explain a lot! |
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