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Post by silverdragon on Jan 3, 2015 10:11:07 GMT
Credit to Lex who first proposed this one..
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Post by the light works on Jan 3, 2015 15:21:01 GMT
slugs aren't insects but this would probably be the best place for the myth that if you put trays of beer out in the garden, slugs will be attracted and fall in and drown. that is technically incorrect - slugs cannot drown. they actually die of alcohol poisoning.
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Post by Antigone68104 on Jan 3, 2015 16:02:14 GMT
One of my relatives swears by bay leaves as ant repellant -- you're supposed to find where the ants are getting into your house, and put the bay leaves in that crack/hole.
This could be tested with a large container with a deliberately-cracked divider wall down the middle, ants living on one side and food for them on the other. Let the ants establish their trails, then stuff one crack with bay leaves. Maybe stuff another crack with something inert (paper?) but the same mass, to establish whether its the bay or just the plugged hole. And leave at least one crack open as the control.
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Post by the light works on Jan 3, 2015 16:07:58 GMT
One of my relatives swears by bay leaves as ant repellant -- you're supposed to find where the ants are getting into your house, and put the bay leaves in that crack/hole. This could be tested with a large container with a deliberately-cracked divider wall down the middle, ants living on one side and food for them on the other. Let the ants establish their trails, then stuff one crack with bay leaves. Maybe stuff another crack with something inert (paper?) but the same mass, to establish whether its the bay or just the plugged hole. And leave at least one crack open as the control. make another test hole where the hole is treated with the odor of the by leaves, but not blocked.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 4, 2015 13:26:40 GMT
Hmm... I have pulled a few drowned slugs out of my Pond....(And snails!..) are my fish smuggling in Beer?... Or is Slugs cant drown a valid myth?... I know they cant swim very well.
Insect control, I know that Queen has Garlic planted amongst the rose gardens at Buckingham Palace, to deter Greenfly. (They also spray garlic infused water if the get an outbreak...) I have Chives amongst my own roses. They are from the same general family of plants. I also know that if you take box hedge clippings and soak them in water, then spray the water over roses, that also keeps greenfly down. These are tried and tested myths....
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Post by the light works on Jan 4, 2015 15:12:00 GMT
Hmm... I have pulled a few drowned slugs out of my Pond....(And snails!..) are my fish smuggling in Beer?... Or is Slugs cant drown a valid myth?... I know they cant swim very well. Insect control, I know that Queen has Garlic planted amongst the rose gardens at Buckingham Palace, to deter Greenfly. (They also spray garlic infused water if the get an outbreak...) I have Chives amongst my own roses. They are from the same general family of plants. I also know that if you take box hedge clippings and soak them in water, then spray the water over roses, that also keeps greenfly down. These are tried and tested myths.... I suppose it is possible for them to eventually suffocate, but their "respiration" process requires them to be wet, and being coated in water does not interfere with it. - above water slugs and snails have the same breathing mechanism that underwater slugs and snails have.
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Post by mrfatso on Jan 4, 2015 15:29:53 GMT
Not all slugs have the same physiologically, some have lungs, and would therefore be able drown, other breathe using a modified Gill and are less likely to drown. Could it be that the species of slugs we have in the UK are from the taxonomic group that have lungs, and in the USA the Gill breathers, in a similar way to groups like new world monkeys have prehensile tails where old world ones do not?
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Post by the light works on Jan 4, 2015 16:29:31 GMT
Not all slugs have the same physiologically, some have lungs, and would therefore be able drown, other breathe using a modified Gill and are less likely to drown. Could it be that the species of slugs we have in the UK are from the taxonomic group that have lungs, and in the USA the Gill breathers, in a similar way to groups like new world monkeys have prehensile tails where old world ones do not? no, because we have your slugs as well as our native slugs.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 5, 2015 8:49:25 GMT
Hmm... I have pulled a few drowned slugs out of my Pond....(And snails!..) are my fish smuggling in Beer?... Or is Slugs cant drown a valid myth?... I know they cant swim very well. Insect control, I know that Queen has Garlic planted amongst the rose gardens at Buckingham Palace, to deter Greenfly. (They also spray garlic infused water if the get an outbreak...) I have Chives amongst my own roses. They are from the same general family of plants. I also know that if you take box hedge clippings and soak them in water, then spray the water over roses, that also keeps greenfly down. These are tried and tested myths.... I suppose it is possible for them to eventually suffocate, but their "respiration" process requires them to be wet, and being coated in water does not interfere with it. - above water slugs and snails have the same breathing mechanism that underwater slugs and snails have. Being covered in their own slime is not the same as "wet", and if I remember right, washing a slug in tap water can seriously damage its health, as it has to re-slime its entire body... I believe some Frogs and Toads have the same problem, but are more used to it, being water dwellers. (I do watch a lot of David Attenborough wildlife shows...) Also slugs have a very good set of sensory equipment that helps them avoid salt...
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Post by kharnynb on Jan 12, 2015 12:28:28 GMT
As for flies, a great fruitfly trap is a small glass with some balsamic vinegar and water, they all fly in, none fly out
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 16, 2015 9:50:13 GMT
I usually do the 2 litre bottle where I cut the top off, fill the bottle about halfway with some sort of sugary solution (soda works fine), turn the top on its head, plunge it in and duct tape the sides. It creates a nice funnel for the creeps to get in through, but they can't find their way back to the tiny hole and out again. Like this: EDIT: If you've got kids and you're worried that they'll get their hands on it, make a couple of holes through the sides of the plastic at the top, pull some string through to make a "handle" and hang it up where they can't reach it.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 17, 2015 11:05:55 GMT
Fruit Fly traps, I have some, To prevent the buggers coming inside. I have no problem with them in the garden, as the Pond has its own deathly trap... a couple of dozen Koi carp are good at finding swimming insects. Plus a banana in the water is a tasty treat for Koi. Any soft fruit.... They LOVE watermelon as well. A ring of that about an inch thick will last maybe a day and a half.... It attracts flies, the fish get to eat flies and fruit at the same time?... sweet treats for them.
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Post by c64 on Feb 6, 2015 12:48:05 GMT
slugs aren't insects but this would probably be the best place for the myth that if you put trays of beer out in the garden, slugs will be attracted and fall in and drown. that is technically incorrect - slugs cannot drown. they actually die of alcohol poisoning. It really works. Beer attracts slugs over a very great distance. And once a few had drowned, the rest can climb back out again. So the real trick is to convince a neighbour to set out beer traps, then it will really work for YOU since all the slugs will be in your neighbours yard!
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Post by the light works on Feb 6, 2015 15:32:00 GMT
slugs aren't insects but this would probably be the best place for the myth that if you put trays of beer out in the garden, slugs will be attracted and fall in and drown. that is technically incorrect - slugs cannot drown. they actually die of alcohol poisoning. It really works. Beer attracts slugs over a very great distance. And once a few had drowned, the rest can climb back out again. So the real trick is to convince a neighbour to set out beer traps, then it will really work for YOU since all the slugs will be in your neighbours yard! yes, it is effective at killing slugs - but it actually poisons them rather than drowning them.
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Post by c64 on Feb 6, 2015 15:52:13 GMT
It really works. Beer attracts slugs over a very great distance. And once a few had drowned, the rest can climb back out again. So the real trick is to convince a neighbour to set out beer traps, then it will really work for YOU since all the slugs will be in your neighbours yard! yes, it is effective at killing slugs - but it actually poisons them rather than drowning them. Not really killing them. We had a neighbour who used beer traps for 20 years keeping everybody else yards free of slugs - except his own which was literally mostly bare rock due to all the slugs eating everything.
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