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Post by silverdragon on Jan 17, 2015 10:53:09 GMT
Wile E. Coyote
Adam at the start of the Simpson's show said he would "love" to tackle some Wile E. Coyote myths.... [How did I see something not shown on UK TV yet?.. the ability to search internet.]
Does that constitute a "Requested idea" for the show ideas section?...
If so, one myth I would love to see tried, as an example only, can anyone[Read Busters next challenge?.. its about time we saw him do something that ends in a bang...] just grab a hold of a rocket and "ride" it. Even if you used some form of ratchet belt, sticking Buster on a huge rocket like we see in the Wile E. Coyote cartoons, I say, no way... Just how to steer the thing anyway..... It has been tried on the show before, I know, but a re-visit under a whole show just for Wile E. Coyote myths may be good entertainment?.. can you get one single rocket that size anyway?.. light the fuse and hang on?...
But surely there are better ones out there that people want to see.
But back to the idea, do we open up a thread or not?... [Mods to discuss.... only they can open the thread in that requested ideas section?...] This is more of is this a valid topic for show ideas. If not, have some fun here in Watercooler with things done that you just cant do but wish you can from the Wile E. Coyote cartoons?...
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2015 19:50:42 GMT
Hmmm... the most difficult part is that Wile E Coyote CAN disobey the laws of thermodynamics.
I guess one thing I would say is testable is whether an impact can cause a ring shaped dust cloud. (I.E. when he falls from cliffs) unfortunately, they already did border slingshot - with very Wile E Coyote results, so they probably can't justify redoing it. they could study whether mixing steel pellets with birdseed would have enough attraction to catch a bird with a magnet. they could test whether it was possible for a hard enough impact to vertically telescope a biped's spine.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jan 19, 2015 20:05:46 GMT
I was always a fan of roller skating while strapped to a jetpack...though, they obviously can't use actual jetpacks*. But, what if they used an pressurized air tank and released the pressure to see if it is possible to roller skate (without falling over) after a large forward force is applied?
*Or, could this be the "ramped up" version of the test that utilizes Buster?
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2015 20:30:59 GMT
I was always a fan of roller skating while strapped to a jetpack...though, they obviously can't use actual jetpacks*. But, what if they used an pressurized air tank and released the pressure to see if it is possible to roller skate (without falling over) after a large forward force is applied? *Or, could this be the "ramped up" version of the test that utilizes Buster? maybe an air/water rocket would work for a test jetpack. (wasn't Wile E's pack a rocket pack anyway?)
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jan 19, 2015 20:57:51 GMT
I was always a fan of roller skating while strapped to a jetpack...though, they obviously can't use actual jetpacks*. But, what if they used an pressurized air tank and released the pressure to see if it is possible to roller skate (without falling over) after a large forward force is applied? *Or, could this be the "ramped up" version of the test that utilizes Buster? maybe an air/water rocket would work for a test jetpack. (wasn't Wile E's pack a rocket pack anyway?) You would be correct, I used the wrong term. This is the best (only) depiction I could find... Though, I did find variants: 1) Actual rocket skates with miniature rockets in the skates 2) Brings new meaning to the term rocket sled
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2015 21:35:58 GMT
maybe an air/water rocket would work for a test jetpack. (wasn't Wile E's pack a rocket pack anyway?) You would be correct, I used the wrong term. This is the best (only) depiction I could find... Though, I did find variants: 1) Actual rocket skates with miniature rockets in the skates 2) Brings new meaning to the term rocket sled I think jetpack is used for rocket pack so much its hard to not inadvertently do it.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jan 19, 2015 21:47:50 GMT
What is the highest velocity that a spring can provide? Though, the usual result in this scenario is that the rock is propelled backwards and Wile doesn't move.
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Post by the light works on Jan 19, 2015 22:01:28 GMT
What is the highest velocity that a spring can provide? Though, the usual result in this scenario is that the rock is propelled backwards and Wile doesn't move. if memory serves, anything being "the usual result" is that it happened on two episodes. that said, good catch. most likely something that could be tested in a "what would actually happen?" sort of way.
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Post by wvengineer on Jan 20, 2015 3:57:43 GMT
If you drop a coyote simuloid from the rim level of a deep canyon, how much of an intention will it make into the ground?
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2015 7:13:33 GMT
If you drop a coyote simuloid from the rim level of a deep canyon, how much of an intention will it make into the ground? that would go well with my dust ring test, and you could also test whether the aerodynamics would make it shift trajectory like it frequently showed.
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Post by wvengineer on Jan 20, 2015 16:59:48 GMT
The real test is if there a way to run off the edge of a cliff, but not fall until you look down?
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Post by the light works on Jan 20, 2015 17:14:56 GMT
The real test is if there a way to run off the edge of a cliff, but not fall until you look down? mmm... tried that. didn't work out well.
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Post by Cybermortis on Jan 20, 2015 20:05:32 GMT
In some semblance of the correct order;
This doesn't qualify as a 'requested myth', as those are things that they are actively researching and/or asking for assistance on. My Bothan has not given any indication that is the case for Wily Coyote myths, at least as of writing.
I'm actually thinking that this might be a practical, and fun, idea over all - if a little daft. But then I think the occasional daft episode might be an interesting change in pace.
In terms of actually testing things. Well it seems as if the top speed of a real world Roadrunner is around 20 mph, and I'd be astonished if they don't have an RC car in the shop more than capable of matching that speed or the components to put something together in an hour or so. They could go out and watch/film real Roadrunners - or get footage from elsewhere - and work out the general speed and agility of the birds and then modify the RC car to match that as closely as possible. Stick a soft-toy Roadrunner on top of the car, maybe with a simple rig to make the birds legs move with the wheels, and Adam can run around trying to catch his Roadrunner all day long, without risking harming any real animals.
They would also be more than capable of making a 'Coyote', which given the respective sizes wouldn't be that large and might in fact be small enough to allow them to create a small pack of them. That would allow them to do some of the testing, such as strapping one of them onto a rocket or dropping it from a great height to see what kind of impression it leaves. (Audience; Big, Ground; not so much)
Some of these ideas don't seem testable, such as rockets on skates, as you couldn't do them with a dummy. But a lot of these contraptions do seem to be testable and might not cost the earth or be all that complex.
If you lot could find some fun, interesting and testable contraptions/ideas from Roadrunner they might well change their mind. And if this is something Adam is sort of interested in that would be one out of the three main producers who's attention might be caught by said ideas.
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Post by ironhold on Jan 20, 2015 20:43:51 GMT
I honestly don't recall which short had what, but here goes.
Glue Trap - Wile uses some sort of adhesive to completely cover a patch of road, the idea being that the adhesive will be enough to stick the Roadrunner fast. However, Wile himself winds up stuck fast, leaving him at the mercy of an oncoming cargo truck.
1. Is there an adhesive that will successfully hold a roadrunner fast if it is traveling at full speed?
2. Could a glue trap be enough to hold Wile fast but allow a cargo truck to pass on through unhindered?
Painted Tunnels / Roadways - A common trap used by Wile is to paint a tunnel or landscape on a rock or brick wall, the idea being that the Roadrunner will mistake this painting for a normal part of the road and ram right into it.
Could someone paint a mural so realistic that a person who was not familiar with the pathway would mistake it for a part of the path?
Butterfly on the Plunger - One gag (recycled by Twisted Sister for their "I Wanna Rock" video) has a butterfly land on the plunger of an old-school dynamite detonator while Wile is placing the dynamite beneath a culvert (thereby, he hopes, allowing him to blow the road and leave the Roadrunner stuck).
Could something as light as a butterfly be heavy enough to activate a plunger if someone was foolish enough to hook up the dynamite before placing it? (I'm pretty sure I asked about it in another thread here.)
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Jan 20, 2015 20:51:47 GMT
Exploding Roadrunner Decoy - Wile took much pleasure in creating "female" roadrunners and load them with explosives (usually black powder and/or dynamite), which the roadrunner may or may not have stopped for
1) Would a roadrunner be attracted to a decoy? (this may be the less doable test)
2) Could an explosive decoy be triggered accurately enough to have an effect on a moving object?
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Post by OziRiS on Jan 20, 2015 22:04:46 GMT
Painted Tunnels / Roadways - A common trap used by Wile is to paint a tunnel or landscape on a rock or brick wall, the idea being that the Roadrunner will mistake this painting for a normal part of the road and ram right into it. Could someone paint a mural so realistic that a person who was not familiar with the pathway would mistake it for a part of the path? I'd say that's entirely possible
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Post by the light works on Jan 21, 2015 0:57:51 GMT
one hitch is that neither roadrunner nor coyote are a match for the actual critters. - so they would have to work with the parameters the cartoon gives.
yes, dynamite plunger was already discussed.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 21, 2015 7:36:38 GMT
I think I posted a series of these somewhere on the boards before.... They are "Wraps", printed on a rubber like film that can be used to cover any surface, including cars, buses, billboards...
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 21, 2015 7:40:45 GMT
Rocket on a rollerskate, I have seen that done, toy rockets, its quite fun, and we used to have drag races with them.
Adding a toy to hang on?... we didnt try that.
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Post by silverdragon on Jan 21, 2015 7:44:34 GMT
No but there is a version of a lime paste that old hunters used to use on bird birches, when the bird lands, it gets stuck. I believe some tribes still use it, a chewing gum paste. And I am certain I have seen the coyote use a "Free Seed" sign to stop the road runner for traps, including using fast set glue.
Back to the glue... hot tar?.. I have seen a car try to drive through a hot tar puddle and get stuck fast. Stupid fool was trying to ignore workmen trying to stop him using his usual short-cut.... Instant Karma.
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