|
Post by silverdragon on Jan 29, 2015 10:14:42 GMT
Just how easy is it to flip a car sideways....
We all see the movie, they shoot out a tyre, the car immediately swerves, which they have already shown as complete bunkum, but then it does a sideways flip. Maybe they take out the driver?.. Can you just yank the wheel that hard at something like 50mph that it will swerve that hard you go on your roof?...
So how easy is it to flip a car on normal roads, under normal conditions... without outside "help".
Sure if you hit a loading ramp with two wheels, your going over, but would a kerb do that?... Can you just steer into a flip?... (top gear have shown just how easy that is with the Reliant Robin, Three wheeler) but a normal domestic non race car at normal road speeds or just above.
How extreme do the conditions have to be.
We are considering the car-chase scenario on normal road with normal traffic, so high-speed is not going to be available, so speeds would have to be what could be achieved in normal traffic.... But obviously, they wouldnt be doing the test on normal roads....
|
|
|
Post by kharnynb on Jan 30, 2015 20:31:03 GMT
I think it still would depend a lot on the car, an top heavy car would be much easier to flip, most of us remember the first baby benz.
|
|
|
Post by silverdragon on Jan 31, 2015 8:15:07 GMT
Thats a point.... is its the SUV soft=roader type, its over quick as a flash. The original suzuki jeeps were notorious... I was supposing a normal saloon type....
With the traction control and stability control off.... (Modern cars wont let you steer that wildly..?.. or adapt suspension to counter the swing..)
|
|
|
Post by the light works on Feb 2, 2015 12:12:13 GMT
for the most part, if I see a car off its wheels, there was terrain involved - but yes I have seen a car upended from skidding into a curb, or digging into a softish shoulder. I recall reading something to the effect of tipping a car requiring sharp maneuvers at relatively low speed - as the car would skid before it rolled at higher speeds. anecdotally, I could "tricycle" my Jeep with the overhead rack on it - but it counts as a tall stance/overpowered vehicle.
|
|
|
Post by silverdragon on Feb 3, 2015 8:41:39 GMT
With no outside influence..... If all is to be believed that a car can flip that easily, how the hell is "Drifting" even possible?... Again, we are looking at saloon cars... They go sideways. And top gear make a habit out of shredding tyres showing cars doing sideways in clouds of tyre smoke.
So howcome the film industry says cars flip sideways that easily.... Surely a shot-out tyre looses grip, and the car will slide sideways into a kerb/wall/bank, rather than just do aerobatics.....
|
|
|
Post by the light works on Feb 3, 2015 15:13:50 GMT
With no outside influence..... If all is to be believed that a car can flip that easily, how the hell is "Drifting" even possible?... Again, we are looking at saloon cars... They go sideways. And top gear make a habit out of shredding tyres showing cars doing sideways in clouds of tyre smoke. So howcome the film industry says cars flip sideways that easily.... Surely a shot-out tyre looses grip, and the car will slide sideways into a kerb/wall/bank, rather than just do aerobatics..... because just sliding into something isn't as exciting.
|
|