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Post by kharnynb on Feb 2, 2015 18:07:39 GMT
saintsal.com/facebook/There have been changes over the holydays to fb's policy, which gives them the right to use adressbook info and more to abuse your private data for their own purposes. This means anyone who uses facebook will now spill all the data on their smartphone and pc to facebook and therefore even us people who aren't on there will have our contact data abused by this.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 10:26:29 GMT
This is why I am actively BLOCKING Facebook with Ghostery.
I am reading the article, I will be sending it to other people, maybe its time we addressed what Facebook is doing, and I have disassociated my Facebook account with outside links....
I am also removing its ability to read any private data.
Thanks for the heads up.
It WILL be investigated............
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 5, 2015 10:43:28 GMT
Just read this and a lot of the articles linked to. Went to Girlfriend with my concerns, since she's on Facebook and uses the Messenger app, but as it will probably be with most people, she just went, "Meh..." and kept on texting via Messenger with her sister.
I even tried explaining to her that by using Facebook and Messenger she's allowing someone else access to everything on her phone. EVERYTHING, meaning that whenever she types in her username and password for her handy little net banking app, that's being monitored too. She didn't care and I'm sorry to say this, but most people won't. They've accepted it and that's the scariest part of it all.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 10:48:15 GMT
"What can we do about it"
Thats the attitude....
I want to use, but its poisoning me....
Addiction problems.
I dont know the answers, but, perhaps by raising awareness, public outcry may change their policy.
I have passed on the story to BBC's "Click" program, lets see what happens there.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 5, 2015 11:00:32 GMT
Exactly. The "what can we do about it" attitude. And that won't exactly dwindle now that it's alarmingly obvious that even staying off Facebook won't be enough to protect you. People will just see that as an argument for, "Why should I not use it if they already know everything about me anyway through other users?"
But here's the thing: You should say no for the exact same reason you said yes to begin with. You said yes because everyone else was doing it. Well, for everyone else to be doing it, someone had to start and get others on board. That's why you need to be the first to say no. Someone has to start. Might as well be you.
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 11:03:39 GMT
I wonder if there is a "Get me off facebook" site?....
The same as the right to be forgotten by google.
I must investigate...
Stick a bookmark in this, I may come back to it later....
Otherwise, what can we the people do to stop facebook using us, if we did not agree to it.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 5, 2015 11:05:09 GMT
I wonder if there is a "Get me off facebook" site?.... The same as the right to be forgotten by google. I must investigate... Stick a bookmark in this, I may come back to it later.... Otherwise, what can we the people do to stop facebook using us, if we did not agree to it. Stop using it. As long as they make money on what they do, they won't stop. |
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 11:13:06 GMT
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Post by silverdragon on Feb 5, 2015 13:01:25 GMT
Now this looks useful....neilchughes.com/tag/how-to-stop-facebook-using-my-browser-data/The link disabled above is this one.... www.aboutads.info/choices/BTW, it got a "No" from me... on the first try... I have disabled third party cookies?... ...........something I am doing may be working.... Anyway, in the interest of science, I have ticked "Continue anyway" and lets see what happens. 1st impression, Ghostery ran out of space when reporting who was and wasnt blocked..... Bloody hell thats a long list?.... 104 results of trying to track me..... The official results were 122 sites "Interested" in tracking my browser behaviour. They have now all been blocked. Partly by Ghostery, partly by submitting "Do not track" requests via that site.... Well, it tried, but then because I have third party blocked anyway, they cant track me to start with. So this is a result. Its not stopping facebook completely, but its a start.
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Post by kharnynb on Feb 5, 2015 14:38:57 GMT
My biggest issue is the whole "ghost-profile" crap, i'm using ad block pro/noscript and privacy badger, but even then, they will just get a lot of my data from friends/family that will get their adressbooks/emailcontacts etc taken.
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Post by OziRiS on Feb 5, 2015 17:16:07 GMT
My biggest issue is the whole "ghost-profile" crap, i'm using ad block pro/noscript and privacy badger, but even then, they will just get a lot of my data from friends/family that will get their adressbooks/emailcontacts etc taken. That's exactly what scares me too. Even if you're not on, you're still on because your friends are. |
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Post by Lokifan on Mar 16, 2018 4:28:43 GMT
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Post by the light works on Mar 16, 2018 15:29:24 GMT
and people wonder why I stick to antisocial networking.
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Post by kharnynb on Mar 19, 2018 5:44:24 GMT
www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-filesthis is currently starting to get steam, but sadly under the radar on most media(not a huge fan of the guardian's "opinion" part, but their reporting is sometimes rather good) so 50 million profiles harvested by a company formerly run by Steve Bannon, with ties to Russia and that DID try to influence the last election?
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Post by the light works on Mar 19, 2018 15:10:41 GMT
www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-filesthis is currently starting to get steam, but sadly under the radar on most media(not a huge fan of the guardian's "opinion" part, but their reporting is sometimes rather good) so 50 million profiles harvested by a company formerly run by Steve Bannon, with ties to Russia and that DID try to influence the last election? it is starting to get mentioned on US media. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 19, 2018 15:32:35 GMT
www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-filesthis is currently starting to get steam, but sadly under the radar on most media(not a huge fan of the guardian's "opinion" part, but their reporting is sometimes rather good) so 50 million profiles harvested by a company formerly run by Steve Bannon, with ties to Russia and that DID try to influence the last election? it is starting to get mentioned on US media. Just to keep the facts straight. As least as they are known at this time. The nope campaign (Bannon connection) bought marketing data from a third party marketing data mining firm. That firm obtained it's data from Facebook under either legitimate or not legitimate means. The real question should be how did they get that data from Facebook? Why was there no means at Facebook to prevent that date from being obtained or, as it appears at this time, Facebook voluntarily gave (or sold) them their users private data. The lesson here is that if you don't want your personal data in the hands of everyone that has access to the internet, don't voluntarily give it to Facebook or any other social media site. Assume that as soon as you hit the return key, everything you just typed is now for the world to see, and forever. |
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Post by the light works on Mar 19, 2018 15:54:10 GMT
it is starting to get mentioned on US media. Just to keep the facts straight. As least as they are known at this time. The nope campaign (Bannon connection) bought marketing data from a third party marketing data mining firm. That firm obtained it's data from Facebook under either legitimate or not legitimate means. The real question should be how did they get that data from Facebook? Why was there no means at Facebook to prevent that date from being obtained or, as it appears at this time, Facebook voluntarily gave (or sold) them their users private data. The lesson here is that if you don't want your personal data in the hands of everyone that has access to the internet, don't voluntarily give it to Facebook or any other social media site. Assume that as soon as you hit the return key, everything you just typed is now for the world to see, and forever. the fact that fakebook blacklisted not only the data mining company, but also all its talent, implies they neither gave nor sold the data. which leaves having the data taken without their permission, and no indication of whether or not they would have sold it if the offer was made. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 19, 2018 15:57:54 GMT
Just to keep the facts straight. As least as they are known at this time. The nope campaign (Bannon connection) bought marketing data from a third party marketing data mining firm. That firm obtained it's data from Facebook under either legitimate or not legitimate means. The real question should be how did they get that data from Facebook? Why was there no means at Facebook to prevent that date from being obtained or, as it appears at this time, Facebook voluntarily gave (or sold) them their users private data. The lesson here is that if you don't want your personal data in the hands of everyone that has access to the internet, don't voluntarily give it to Facebook or any other social media site. Assume that as soon as you hit the return key, everything you just typed is now for the world to see, and forever. the fact that fakebook blacklisted not only the data mining company, but also all its talent, implies they neither gave nor sold the data. which leaves having the data taken without their permission, and no indication of whether or not they would have sold it if the offer was made. Keep in mind, Facebook blacklisted the company after the fact. Even if the data mining company obtained the data without Facebook's knowledge, how should that even be possible? Facebook still carries some responsibility here for not protecting their user base data. |
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Post by the light works on Mar 19, 2018 16:12:49 GMT
the fact that fakebook blacklisted not only the data mining company, but also all its talent, implies they neither gave nor sold the data. which leaves having the data taken without their permission, and no indication of whether or not they would have sold it if the offer was made. Keep in mind, Facebook blacklisted the company after the fact. Even if the data mining company obtained the data without Facebook's knowledge, how should that even be possible? Facebook still carries some responsibility here for not protecting their user base data. never said they don't. just said they got took, too. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 19, 2018 16:16:59 GMT
Keep in mind, Facebook blacklisted the company after the fact. Even if the data mining company obtained the data without Facebook's knowledge, how should that even be possible? Facebook still carries some responsibility here for not protecting their user base data. never said they don't. just said they got took, too. From what I've read, it sounds like the data mining company told Facebook they were writing some type of Facebook app and Facebook voluntarily gave them the data to use in the app. The mining company then went on to sell the data to anyone that wanted to pay them for it. So yes, the company obtained the data under false pretenses, but Facebook still never should have allowed them to get it. |
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