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Post by kharnynb on Mar 19, 2018 16:23:43 GMT
what seems to be the case is that they used a rather small "original" set of profiles(somewhere around 280 000) to "hook" into friends etc and harvest 50 million more and then used it for targeted advertising in the 2016 election(which if I understand right is forbidden to do for a foreign organisation, as they are based in the UK)
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 19, 2018 23:13:34 GMT
The more I read about this story, the more it looks like a whole lot of nothing. That said, Facebook's stock sure took a hit.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 20, 2018 6:17:23 GMT
Facebook failed to protect its users from identity theft.?.. maybe.
But it did fail to protect the personal data of its users from being harvested and used/sold by third party.
This is now going to be a parliamentary enquiry thing here in UK to see if they fell foul of any law, or, in the case where they didnt, why isnt there law to prevent this.
This is a whole new territory now, the internet is starting to get laws.
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Post by mrfatso on Mar 20, 2018 11:58:37 GMT
The UKs data protection authority the Data Protection Commisioner has requested the courts give them a search warrant for the offices of Cambridge Analytica. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43465700This is the start of legal proceedings against them which could lead to criminal charges. |
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 20, 2018 12:59:08 GMT
The information that was "harvested" was information Facebook users voluntarily posted on Facebook. This happens every time you use the internet. Your every move is tracked and harvested by someone. That's why when you buy something on-line, the next thing you see is ad's popping up on just about every site you visit for either the same item you just bought, or similar items. I'm not saying this is right, but it goes way beyond Facebook.
Fortunately, this incident happened in the U.K. where privacy laws are much stronger than here in the U.S. Hopefully it will be the beginning of the end of this type of privacy infringement.
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Post by the light works on Mar 20, 2018 14:36:10 GMT
as far as I know there wasn't identity theft. identity theft is if, say, I get hold of Greg's private identifiers and pretend to be greg for fun and profit.
so if they had hacked into other people's fakebook pages and posted things pretending to be them, it might be identity theft; but I haven't heard indications they did that. now there were some twitter "follower farms" that allegedly did that. to wit, collected login data from real people and then used those real people's accounts to follow their customers.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 20, 2018 15:48:43 GMT
as far as I know there wasn't identity theft. identity theft is if, say, I get hold of Greg's private identifiers and pretend to be greg for fun and profit. If you figure out how to have fun and profit being greg, I'd sure like to know how. |
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Post by the light works on Mar 20, 2018 15:53:39 GMT
as far as I know there wasn't identity theft. identity theft is if, say, I get hold of Greg's private identifiers and pretend to be greg for fun and profit. If you figure out how to have fun and profit being greg, I'd sure like to know how. usually, the procedure is to borrow money or charge things, and then go back to being the identity thief's self. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 21, 2018 6:28:15 GMT
From what has been said, they asked Fakebook users to participate in a small test, one of those "What type of driver are you" type things.
In doing so, you "Agreed" to let your personal details be used by the testers to analyse you.
What the test takers didnt know, they harvested the lot, and those of any friends they had, and those of the friends of friends, and infinitum, to over 50 million users.
They then used that data to target certain people with Targeted adds, and, importantly, make it look like your friends had "Recommended you"
And if that isnt a form of identity theft on behalf of your friends, and even you if it was suggested that you had been the friend that recommended, then what is?.
No on the next bit, I aint sure, and this is what was recommended, weather it was to partake in the personality quiz, or political pressure to vote a certain way, more likely, it was would you also partake of the personality test at the recommendation of your friend.
However, at this time, Fakebook the company, were told that Cambridge Analytical was developing an App for Fakebook, and were more or less "Duped" into agreeing to allow harvesting of personal data, if not wholesale give-away of personal data to help develop the app.
Duped doesnt mean not guilty.
They SHOULD have better protected their users data.
Fakebooks stocks took a dive, and a hell of a lot of people have signed out and deleted account.
Erm....
Delete account doesnt ensure that the data has been "Wiped" from the company's server.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 21, 2018 13:45:50 GMT
It still amazes me how many people will post their entire life on a social media site, like Facebook, and only think their "friends" will see it. I have a Facebook page. The only reason I have it is so I can stay in touch with some family members that seem to think Facebook is the only way to communicate. If you looked at my Facebook page, and I'm sure anybody here could find it with a minimum of detective work, you won't find anything about me that the world doesn't already know. I have no doubt that Amazon knows a lot more about me from the purchases I make than Facebook ever will and I do my best to keep it that way.
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Post by the light works on Mar 21, 2018 14:51:15 GMT
It still amazes me how many people will post their entire life on a social media site, like Facebook, and only think their "friends" will see it. I have a Facebook page. The only reason I have it is so I can stay in touch with some family members that seem to think Facebook is the only way to communicate. If you looked at my Facebook page, and I'm sure anybody here could find it with a minimum of detective work, you won't find anything about me that the world doesn't already know. I have no doubt that Amazon knows a lot more about me from the purchases I make than Facebook ever will and I do my best to keep it that way. more and more police departments are checking facebook when property crimes happen. an it is getting more frequent the criminal tattles on themselves on facebook. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 23, 2018 7:08:31 GMT
My Fakebook page is a "Sitter", its just there to prevent anyone else getting there first with phake news in my name.
I do use it infrequently, but mostly for Private "PM" messaging, my status never changes, and the pictures are non existent unless I have allowed "Close friends only" to view.
You here know more about me than "the rest of the world", its none of their business?.
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Post by GTCGreg on Mar 23, 2018 12:38:20 GMT
My Fakebook page is a "Sitter", its just there to prevent anyone else getting there first with phake news in my name. I do use it infrequently, but mostly for Private "PM" messaging, my status never changes, and the pictures are non existent unless I have allowed "Close friends only" to view. You here know more about me than "the rest of the world", its none of their business?. Actually, it is exactly their business to know everything about you. That's what they do. It's your business to keep then from doing their business. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 24, 2018 8:38:14 GMT
New Campaign, "Mess with Face-book",
Change your status to something completely out-there, like currently chasing alien crocodiles, or having my drive wallpapered with tomato skins, making a comeback for Red-neck in fashion week, playing ping-pong with cricket bats, climbing the family tree to save the whales [get the complete set! only $5.99 from Wally world...]
Go in and change all of your permissions to extreme private, delete all your personal data, and fill it up with stock images that have no copywrite issues, if you have a family of 5 make that family of 30, if your age is stated as 45, add 300 to that, change you known address to 999 Letsbe Avenue, go wild with all of it, and see what happens.
We are trying to crash their "intelligence engine" with Phake News, and if say all the people in Illinois got together and stated that the have a preference for a soft drink called Vimto, which is a North West England favourite but may only be a local thing, that may completely screw up their "National statistics", put down you current car as a Areal Nomad, or RR Phantom, or something completely impractical for who you are.
Stare you political preference as "Agnostic anarchist", and state race relations as "Every family should have one", be absurd, express a wish to have your town build a beach complex even though you live 200 mile from open water?..
BUT, Importantly, PM all you current contacts, and let them know what you are up to first, get them to join in.
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Post by the light works on Mar 24, 2018 15:13:47 GMT
need to develop a symbol that viewers will know is a participation symbol (one that recognition software will have trouble recognizing, because you know that will come next), and then proceed to go all opposite day on product placement, basically work at fooling advertisers into way overstocking stuff that nobody buys. so they decide fakebook data mining is way too dodgy to be of value.
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