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Post by the light works on Mar 3, 2016 15:22:43 GMT
Evans has a difficult job. He now has to "assume charge" of a flagship program?... Him in charge of anything is a worry. "Some say" that he has to shake the tree to see what falls off..... Some say that the producer that went is one of those that has caused controversy. (Not me...) SOME say that the Controversy with a slope on the bridge is part of the irrelevant humour that made it such a good show in the first place, and what the forklift do you think your doing trying to change that. Maybe by upsetting a few people, it will change how the show is made just enough to make it different enough for us to believe they have not just started recycling old scripts.... Watch out for Sabine, she will be the star to keep an eye on, I think it may be her time to shine. Shame that she should be saddled with a damper-van ship about to sink?... Le Blank as main host?... I cant think of a more fitting end to his career..... hashuptag "Dead Donkey"?... [/sarcasm] He may be a petrol head, but that dont mean I like him?... not everyone riding a Ducati is "My best mate", in fact some of them are bloody fools. some say the slope on the bridge comment was so subtle that they completely missed it until it became a controversy. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 4, 2016 8:04:14 GMT
With Leblank is obviously a lure to the "friends" generation to get them interested.
Is it that bad that we have to import the talent?...
Obviously yes.
Sabine is also "not English", but, in her case, we have seen her before on the show, so, she is more than qualified...
The other "Internet Journalists" that have been found, I do not wish to question their abilities or even put libellous claims at their feet, but, it is known amongst the well known celebrities that there are enough well known personalities that are also gear heads that could have been bought in, so, why go down that far?...
Is it that some may say the dont WANT to work with Evans?.. (I know a few would say that?..) or is it that there are too many afraid that the change of presenters is such a big thing they already believe the show will tank?..
Too many cowards?..
Or is it that too many respect the Jeremy and dont believe he had a fair ending?...
On that, we hear what we hear, and this thread has contained MUCH of what can be found, Truth and otherwise, on what has been released on what happened.
Yet is Clarkson was soooooo much of a tool, and the other two have been very vocal on how much of a tool he was at times, if he had gone too far, why the hell did they follow him out of the door and protect him so much by keeping very tight lipped to the tune of misleading reporters with obvious bogus comments?...
If the argument had been ALL of jeremys fault, dont you think they would have said something by now?...
And yes, they HAVE said "But throwing punches was too much", and even Jezza has admitted that.
Perhaps this was all of a publicity stunt to be a glorious head of the headlines end to the show as it was.
Perhaps they had all previously decided that "Aint non of us getting any younger", and the "I am getting to old for all this (cr@p)" comment was more truth than we know, ....
I know, I am showing a conspiracy theory right here.
This has all been arranged to keep the show up in the headlines throughout its off-screen period when a well kept change of presenting staff takes place because all of them had previously agreed one out the lot out.
But the lack of chatter from ANYONE.....
I am not the first to mention any of this, but I may be the only one so far to suggest more than we know went on behind the scenes BEFORE that argument....
And its not that the TG production staff are beyond a few arguments anyway.
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Post by Cybermortis on Mar 4, 2016 9:41:43 GMT
Top Gear isn't just a UK tv show, its an international one. So it makes sense to include someone who would be recognised worldwide. Besides everything I've seen and heard seems to indicate that LaBlanc is a genuinely nice guy and easy to work with.
Hiring internet talent is likely both a nod towards the changing nature of entertainment, and a money issue. Basically they don't cost as much, which if Evans is up to his usual tricks is likely a factor as he would have asked for a lot of money; I'm actually wondering at this point if the BBC board of Governors (to whom the BBC have to justify their spending to) is not going to ask some hard questions about hiring someone with a reputation for asking for a high wage yet not doing what they were paid to do. That is why they fired him last time around after all.
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 4, 2016 9:56:00 GMT
Top Gear isn't just a UK tv show, its an international one. So it makes sense to include someone who would be recognised worldwide. Besides everything I've seen and heard seems to indicate that LaBlanc is a genuinely nice guy and easy to work with. Hiring internet talent is likely both a nod towards the changing nature of entertainment, and a money issue. Basically they don't cost as much, which if Evans is up to his usual tricks is likely a factor as he would have asked for a lot of money; I'm actually wondering at this point if the BBC board of Governors (to whom the BBC have to justify their spending to) is not going to ask some hard questions about hiring someone with a reputation for asking for a high wage yet not doing what they were paid to do. That is why they fired him last time around after all. Not anything against LaBlanc at all, and I know I keep spelling his name wrong, I just dont care enough to find out the right one, but, I dont think he is "enough" to run a BRITISH origin TV show. I am playing the devils advocate to the extreme here, and as I have previously said, I will watch the new series with no preconceptions or expectations, but.... in the back of my mind, I have a few problems. Think on it this way... we have a WHOLE COUNTRY stuffed with well known names that could do the job.... D1ck Strawbridge would have jumped at the chance, wouldnt he?.. Cryton legend and now Scrapyard Challenge host Robert Llewellyn, legendary Biker and Truck builder Guy Martin, would bring an almost irreplaceable "Go on give us a go" attitude to new experiences, and I can carry on for pages with possible suggestions.... And the best we can find to represent UK on the worldwide stage is Foreigners?... Is that a true representation of the Best of British?.. This is a Flagship program, one of the BBC's highest earners, ....... its supposed to be "The best we can do", not the best other countries can do?... I just think we are maybe trawling the bottom of a barrel for what may have been a jump-to chance of they had asked some people. BTW, Guy Martin has gone on record as saying "I am done with Motorbikes", after his last crash, so may have plenty of time for other activities.
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Mar 4, 2016 14:10:49 GMT
With Leblank is obviously a lure to the "friends" generation to get them interested. Is it that bad that we have to import the talent?... Obviously yes. Sabine is also "not English", but, in her case, we have seen her before on the show, so, she is more than qualified... The other "Internet Journalists" that have been found, I do not wish to question their abilities or even put libellous claims at their feet, but, it is known amongst the well known celebrities that there are enough well known personalities that are also gear heads that could have been bought in, so, why go down that far?... The first one to come to mind is Jay Leno. Then there's Patrick Dempsey & Jason Priestly, who both race competitively & have intimate knowledge of cars. Even Chris Jacobs, who used to host Overhaulin', would have been a better choice. Or, pull over one of the hosts of Top Gear US. So many better choices than Leblanc... |
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Post by the light works on Mar 4, 2016 15:13:11 GMT
With Leblank is obviously a lure to the "friends" generation to get them interested. Is it that bad that we have to import the talent?... Obviously yes. Sabine is also "not English", but, in her case, we have seen her before on the show, so, she is more than qualified... The other "Internet Journalists" that have been found, I do not wish to question their abilities or even put libellous claims at their feet, but, it is known amongst the well known celebrities that there are enough well known personalities that are also gear heads that could have been bought in, so, why go down that far?... The first one to come to mind is Jay Leno. Then there's Patrick Dempsey & Jason Priestly, who both race competitively & have intimate knowledge of cars. Even Chris Jacobs, who used to host Overhaulin', would have been a better choice. Or, pull over one of the hosts of Top Gear US. So many better choices than Leblanc... on the other hand, I haven't seen any new episodes of Top Gear US, recently... |
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Post by OziRiS on Mar 6, 2016 0:49:59 GMT
With Leblank is obviously a lure to the "friends" generation to get them interested. Is it that bad that we have to import the talent?... Obviously yes. Sabine is also "not English", but, in her case, we have seen her before on the show, so, she is more than qualified... The other "Internet Journalists" that have been found, I do not wish to question their abilities or even put libellous claims at their feet, but, it is known amongst the well known celebrities that there are enough well known personalities that are also gear heads that could have been bought in, so, why go down that far?... The first one to come to mind is Jay Leno. Then there's Patrick Dempsey & Jason Priestly, who both race competitively & have intimate knowledge of cars. Even Chris Jacobs, who used to host Overhaulin', would have been a better choice. Or, pull over one of the hosts of Top Gear US. So many better choices than Leblanc... I don't think it's just about who knows more about cars. A lot of it is probably chemistry between the cast and keeping it lighthearted, yet informative. Leno would probably do well, but I can't imagine he'd want to. Dempsey and Priestly aren't exactly known for their skills in comedic timing, not to mention that the target audience aren't likely to be fans of Beverly Hills 90210 and Grey's Anatomy (or any of the bazillion chick flicks Dempsey's starred in). As for Jacobs... I've seen Overhaulin' and while the guy might know a thing or two about cars, he's better off leaving the on-camera talent portion to other people. As Cyber's noted before, LeBlanc has done stuff that people in the UK will remember and recognize him for, he matches the target audience in age (10-15 years +/-, which means he's neither too young, nor too old), he's known for being a good natured guy who's easy to work with, he's got the comedic talent AND he knows a thing or two about cars. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 15, 2016 7:51:27 GMT
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Post by the light works on Mar 15, 2016 14:32:16 GMT
my very first thought is "I see the infighting is starting already" don't know if that is accurate, but it's my first impression. |
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Post by The Urban Mythbuster on Mar 15, 2016 14:49:35 GMT
Say what you want about Clarkson being brash & blowhardy, I don't think he would have ever done anything so disrespectful.
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Post by the light works on Mar 15, 2016 14:59:01 GMT
Say what you want about Clarkson being brash & blowhardy, I don't think he would have ever done anything so disrespectful. having read more closely, my opinion that people are grandstanding in the court of public opinion has been reinforced. |
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Post by silverdragon on Mar 23, 2016 7:05:34 GMT
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Post by the light works on May 2, 2016 2:23:26 GMT
US Top Gear is back on.
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Post by GTCGreg on May 2, 2016 2:31:23 GMT
Wow. I didn't even know it went off. |
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Post by the light works on May 2, 2016 2:40:07 GMT
Wow. I didn't even know it went off. It had seemed to have a short season last year. I was wondering if it petered out. |
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Post by GTCGreg on May 2, 2016 2:58:22 GMT
Wow. I didn't even know it went off. It had seemed to have a short season last year. I was wondering if it petered out. It was never one of my "must watch" shows. If I happened to catch it, I'd watch it. EDIT: Must be a sign from above. Right after I posted this, I turned on the TV and Top Gear was on. EDIT-2: And now I remember why it wasn't a "must watch.' |
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Post by kharnynb on May 8, 2016 19:37:11 GMT
US top gear sort of grew on me after i stopped comparing it to normal top gear.
While the hosts aren't so interesting, they tend to do decent episodes none-the-less.
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Post by the light works on May 8, 2016 21:49:41 GMT
US top gear sort of grew on me after i stopped comparing it to normal top gear. While the hosts aren't so interesting, they tend to do decent episodes none-the-less. they are a kind of pale shadow of the dynamic of Clarkson, May, and Hammond, but they do give a solid American interpretation of motorheadness. |
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Post by GTCGreg on May 9, 2016 1:40:21 GMT
US top gear sort of grew on me after i stopped comparing it to normal top gear. While the hosts aren't so interesting, they tend to do decent episodes none-the-less. they are a kind of pale shadow of the dynamic of Clarkson, May, and Hammond, but they do give a solid American interpretation of motorheadness. Really? Guess I'm just behind the times, but the version of "motorheadness" that I grew up on is nothing like what they portray. |
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Post by the light works on May 9, 2016 2:40:24 GMT
they are a kind of pale shadow of the dynamic of Clarkson, May, and Hammond, but they do give a solid American interpretation of motorheadness. Really? Guess I'm just behind the times, but the version of "motorheadness" that I grew up on is nothing like what they portray. we're old. |
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